Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-21 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 20 Dec 2012, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 18:26 +0100, Klistvud wrote: Dne, 20. 12. 2012 01:47:33 je Ralf Mardorf napisal(a): Perhaps I'm a computer and I only guess that I'm human. Captchas seem to be based on the wrong assumption that humans can recognize shapes

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-21 Thread John Hasler
AC writes: Captchas can be thought of as an attempt to perform the Turing test. Experience suggests that either computers can pass it and/or humans fail. Computers fail about 9 times out of ten. Unfortunately 10% success is good enough for the spammers while humans often give up after two or

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-21 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
John Hasler wrote: AC writes: Captchas can be thought of as an attempt to perform the Turing test. Experience suggests that either computers can pass it and/or humans fail. Computers fail about 9 times out of ten. Unfortunately 10% success is good enough for the spammers while humans often

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-20 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 20 Dec 2012, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 19:12 -0600, John Hasler wrote: Ralf writes: In real life [captchas are] most of the times are completely unreadable for me. I often find them insoluble as well. :D For people using braille they for sure much more fun,

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-20 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
On 20/12/12 02:17, Frank McCormick wrote: On 19/12/12 07:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:00 -0500, Brad Alexander wrote: Anyone know what would make captcha not work? In my case the browsers are able to display it, but I'm often unable to decrypt it. I've got no issue to

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
John Hasler wrote: Ralf writes: In real life [captchas are] most of the times are completely unreadable for me. I often find them insoluble as well. requesting new ones all the time in the hope of encountering one that is deciferable... Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 08:56 +, Anthony Campbell wrote: So I tried myself and the same thing happened: I got through once in about a dozen tries. I'm a dyslexic, simplified it's a perceptual disorder regarding to signs and to load data from the brain's data storage device, because of the

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-20 Thread John Hasler
Ralf writes: And as already mentioned before, people using braille are completely lost. Some sites offer audio captchas as an alternative. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 10:09 -0600, John Hasler wrote: Ralf writes: And as already mentioned before, people using braille are completely lost. Some sites offer audio captchas as an alternative. Yes, a blind penpal some minutes ago did inform me about that, he also has written that Dyndns

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-20 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 20. 12. 2012 01:47:33 je Ralf Mardorf napisal(a): Perhaps I'm a computer and I only guess that I'm human. Captchas seem to be based on the wrong assumption that humans can recognize shapes whereas automata supposedly can't. Judging from the reactions on this list, I should perhaps

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 18:26 +0100, Klistvud wrote: Dne, 20. 12. 2012 01:47:33 je Ralf Mardorf napisal(a): Perhaps I'm a computer and I only guess that I'm human. Captchas seem to be based on the wrong assumption that humans can recognize shapes whereas automata supposedly can't. Judging

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-20 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 02:40:31 +0100 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 19:12 -0600, John Hasler wrote: Ralf writes: In real life [captchas are] most of the times are completely unreadable for me. I often find them insoluble as well. :D For

OT: Captchas?

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:00 -0500, Brad Alexander wrote: Anyone know what would make captcha not work? In my case the browsers are able to display it, but I'm often unable to decrypt it. I've got no issue to read the examples in the German Wiki, I'm also able to solve the arithmetic problem

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-19 Thread John Hasler
Ralf writes: In real life [captchas are] most of the times are completely unreadable for me. I often find them insoluble as well. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-19 Thread Frank McCormick
On 19/12/12 07:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:00 -0500, Brad Alexander wrote: Anyone know what would make captcha not work? In my case the browsers are able to display it, but I'm often unable to decrypt it. I've got no issue to read the examples in the German Wiki, I'm

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 19:12 -0600, John Hasler wrote: Ralf writes: In real life [captchas are] most of the times are completely unreadable for me. I often find them insoluble as well. :D For people using braille they for sure much more fun, than they are already for you and me :D. --

Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-19 Thread Frank McCormick
On 19/12/12 07:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:00 -0500, Brad Alexander wrote: Anyone know what would make captcha not work? In my case the browsers are able to display it, but I'm often unable to decrypt it. I've got no issue to read the examples in the German Wiki, I'm

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2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
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