Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-15 Thread martin f krafft
I'd appreciate if you would not CC me, as I request in the X-Followup-To header and the signature of each email. > It could be a bad controller on the motherboard and > it sounds like it. You may be damaging hard drives with > a bad mootherboard. Right, but using five different machines? > My

Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-14 Thread J F
martin f krafft wrote: > problems), got the machine back into a running state, then ran > `badblocks -svw` on the disk. And usually, I'd see a number of bad > blocks, usually in excess of 100. Modern IDE and SCSI drives fix the bad blocks using the on chip microprocessor and give you a prefect dr

Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach cr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.07.14.1057 +0200]: > > I've been mad for years, absolutely f**king years, I've been over the > > edge for yonks. :-) > > All Pink Floyd fans are anyway ;) I beg to differ. We are normal, the rest is mad! Aside, I believe that my reference to Uncle Fre

Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-14 Thread cr
On Monday 14 July 2003 10:48, Pigeon wrote: > I've been mad for years, absolutely f**king years, I've been over the > edge for yonks. :-) All Pink Floyd fans are anyway ;) cr ... comfortably numb... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-14 Thread Alvin Oga
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, martin f krafft wrote: > Folks, > > Over the past year, I have replaced something around 20 IDE > Harddrives in 5 different computers running Debian because of drive > faults. I know about IDE and that it's "consumer quality" and no > more, but it can't be the case that the

Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-13 Thread Alan Shutko
Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Some drives can, in fact do bad sector remapping on the fly. By some drives, you mean "all drives sold in the last 10 years", right? > However, manually finding bad blocks on a drive is no real cause for > concern. When a bad sector is found, it sh

Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-13 Thread Pigeon
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 01:51:23PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > Folks, > > Over the past year, I have replaced something around 20 IDE > Harddrives in 5 different computers running Debian because of drive > faults. I know about IDE and that it's "consumer quality" and no > more, but it can't be

Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-13 Thread Shri Shrikumar
On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 13:18, martin f krafft wrote: > What is weird is that S.M.A.R.T. reports no errors on most drives. > I use the smartmontools, and even long offline tests don't produce > any error information. Martin, Try checking the drives on yet another machine; How old are these machines

Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-13 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 06:51, martin f krafft wrote: > Folks, > > Over the past year, I have replaced something around 20 IDE > Harddrives in 5 different computers running Debian because of drive > faults. I know about IDE and that it's "consumer quality" and no > more, but it can't be the case tha

Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-13 Thread martin f krafft
What is weird is that S.M.A.R.T. reports no errors on most drives. I use the smartmontools, and even long offline tests don't produce any error information. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian develo

OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-13 Thread martin f krafft
Folks, Over the past year, I have replaced something around 20 IDE Harddrives in 5 different computers running Debian because of drive faults. I know about IDE and that it's "consumer quality" and no more, but it can't be the case that the failure rate is that high. The drives are mostly made by