Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-13 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:49:00 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Andrew, this is surely do-able. The very first modems were essentially a speaker and a microphone that were connected to the telephone reciever by a couple of rubber cup-like things.

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-06-12 07:49:00, schrieb Andrew Sackville-West: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:57:58PM +0200, Misko wrote: I was trying to find some info but failed (perhaps I was looking at wrong places). Is there a kernel module available that can turn soundcard into modem? it wouldn't be a

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-06-12 17:47:50, schrieb Brad Rogers: On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:21:12 -0500 Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But they're not cheap: we're talking about an analog modem that does V92 protocol. NewEgg has 2: one for $76.99 and one for $244.99 both U.S. Robotics. Ouch! That's

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:45:50 -0500 Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Hugo, Brad Rogers wrote: Acoustic Couplers, they were called. A real PITA to use, too; One hard knock, and the line dropped, because the noise produced upset But it worked. Connected from IBM Chicago to IBM

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:22:25 +0200 Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Michelle, Thats normal, because US-Robotics are realy High-Performance modems and you can not get better stuff. I am using USR since over 20 years and the are perfect. :-) Yes, I used USRs myself. Their

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-13 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 05:30:02PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:45:50 -0500 Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Hugo, Brad Rogers wrote: Acoustic Couplers, they were called. A real PITA to use, too; One hard knock, and the line dropped, because the

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Misko
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:07:14PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: What modem? Winmodems aren't modems, they're sound boards with the wrong audio connector. I have read something like this many times. What am I interested in is if I can make my regular soundcard force to behave like modem? What I

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:57:58 +0200 Misko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Misko, is if I can make my regular soundcard force to behave like modem? Possibly, but why would you want to? When you're on-line using a WinModem the CPU has to do all the work of (en|de)coding data that would normally

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:57:58PM +0200, Misko wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:07:14PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: What modem? Winmodems aren't modems, they're sound boards with the wrong audio connector. I have read something like this many times. What am I interested in is if I can

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:57:58 +0200 Misko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Misko, is if I can make my regular soundcard force to behave like modem? Possibly, but why would you want to? When you're on-line using a WinModem the CPU has to do all the work of (en|de)coding data

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 10:21 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:57:58 +0200 Misko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Misko, is if I can make my regular soundcard force to behave like modem? Possibly, but why would you want to? When you're

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/12/08 09:49, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:57:58PM +0200, Misko wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:07:14PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: What modem? Winmodems aren't modems, they're sound boards with the wrong audio

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 12:57 +0200, Misko wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:07:14PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: What modem? Winmodems aren't modems, they're sound boards with the wrong audio connector. I have read something like this many times. What am I interested in is if I can make my

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:26:53AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/12/08 09:49, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:57:58PM +0200, Misko wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:07:14PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: What modem? Winmodems aren't modems, they're sound boards with

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/12/08 10:25, Paul Johnson wrote: [snip] How necessary is a modem really? Especially on a laptop? Seems like wifi support would be faster, easier and all around more accessible in this day and age. Spoken like someone who doesn't live in

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Paul Johnson wrote: On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 10:21 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:57:58 +0200 Misko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Misko, is if I can make my regular soundcard force to behave like modem? Possibly, but why would you want to? When

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Kent West
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:26:53AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Ah, the good old, slow, usually large, acoustic modem. If your handset didn't match the design of the modem, you were stuck. The *only* benefit to them was that you could use them with a pay phone.

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:49:00 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Andrew, this is surely do-able. The very first modems were essentially a speaker and a microphone that were connected to the telephone reciever by a couple of rubber cup-like things. Acoustic Couplers,

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:21:12 -0500 Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Hugo, But they're not cheap: we're talking about an analog modem that does V92 protocol. NewEgg has 2: one for $76.99 and one for $244.99 both U.S. Robotics. Ouch! That's more than I expected. Here (UK), it's

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:21:12AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: But they're not cheap: we're talking about an analog modem that does V92 protocol. NewEgg has 2: one for $76.99 and one for $244.99 both U.S. Robotics. Ebay should have a USR/3Com Courier V-Everything for around $50. Doug.