Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-13 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 05:30:02PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:45:50 -0500 > Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Hugo, > > > Brad Rogers wrote: > > > Acoustic Couplers, they were called. A real PITA to use, too; One > > > hard knock, and the line dropped,

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:22:25 +0200 Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Michelle, > Thats normal, because US-Robotics are realy High-Performance modems > and you can not get better stuff. I am using USR since over 20 > years and the are perfect. :-) Yes, I used USRs myself. Th

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:45:50 -0500 Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Hugo, > Brad Rogers wrote: > > Acoustic Couplers, they were called. A real PITA to use, too; One > > hard knock, and the line dropped, because the noise produced upset > But it worked. Connected from IBM Chicago

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-06-12 17:47:50, schrieb Brad Rogers: > On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:21:12 -0500 > Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But they're not cheap: we're talking about an analog modem that does > > V92 protocol. NewEgg has 2: one for $76.99 and one for $244.99 both > > U.S. Robotics. > > Ouc

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-06-12 07:49:00, schrieb Andrew Sackville-West: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:57:58PM +0200, Misko wrote: > > I was trying to find > > some info but failed (perhaps I was looking at wrong places). > > Is there a kernel module available that can turn soundcard into > > modem? > > it wouldn't

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-13 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:49:00 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Andrew, this is surely do-able. The very first modems were essentially a speaker and a microphone that were connected to the telephone reciever by a couple of rubber cup-like things.

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:21:12AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > But they're not cheap: we're talking about an analog modem that does V92 > protocol. NewEgg has 2: one for $76.99 and one for $244.99 both U.S. > Robotics. Ebay should have a USR/3Com Courier V-Everything for around $50. Doug.

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:21:12 -0500 Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Hugo, > But they're not cheap: we're talking about an analog modem that does > V92 protocol. NewEgg has 2: one for $76.99 and one for $244.99 both > U.S. Robotics. Ouch! That's more than I expected. Here (UK),

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:49:00 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Andrew, > this is surely do-able. The very first modems were essentially a > speaker and a microphone that were connected to the telephone reciever > by a couple of rubber cup-like things. Acoustic Coupler

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Kent West
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:26:53AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Ah, the "good" old, slow, usually large, acoustic modem. If your handset didn't match the design of the modem, you were stuck. The *only* benefit to them was that you could use them with a pay phone.

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Paul Johnson wrote: On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 10:21 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:57:58 +0200 Misko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Misko, is if I can make my regular soundcard force to behave like modem? Possibly, but why would you want to? When you'

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/12/08 10:25, Paul Johnson wrote: [snip] > > How necessary is a modem really? Especially on a laptop? Seems like > wifi support would be faster, easier and all around more accessible in > this day and age. Spoken like someone who doesn't live

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:26:53AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 06/12/08 09:49, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:57:58PM +0200, Misko wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:07:14PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > >>> What modem? "Winmodems" aren't modems, they're sound bo

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 12:57 +0200, Misko wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:07:14PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > What modem? "Winmodems" aren't modems, they're sound boards with the > > wrong audio connector. > > I have read something like this many times. What am I interested in > is if I can

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/12/08 09:49, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:57:58PM +0200, Misko wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:07:14PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> What modem? "Winmodems" aren't modems, they're sound boards with the >>> wron

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 10:21 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:57:58 +0200 > > Misko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello Misko, > > > >> is if I can make my regular soundcard force to behave like modem? > > > > Possibly, but why would you want to?

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:57:58 +0200 Misko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Misko, is if I can make my regular soundcard force to behave like modem? Possibly, but why would you want to? When you're on-line using a WinModem the CPU has to do all the work of (en|de)coding dat

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:57:58PM +0200, Misko wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:07:14PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > What modem? "Winmodems" aren't modems, they're sound boards with the > > wrong audio connector. > > I have read something like this many times. What am I interested in > is i

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:57:58 +0200 Misko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Misko, > is if I can make my regular soundcard force to behave like modem? Possibly, but why would you want to? When you're on-line using a WinModem the CPU has to do all the work of (en|de)coding data that would normally

Re: OT: Winmodems are soundcards Was: Laptop for College Bound Student?

2008-06-12 Thread Misko
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:07:14PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > What modem? "Winmodems" aren't modems, they're sound boards with the > wrong audio connector. I have read something like this many times. What am I interested in is if I can make my regular soundcard force to behave like modem? What