Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 08 iun 11, 10:06:36, Lisi wrote: > > I did say "YMMV" As I say, I personally find the traction inadequate with > optical mice. I can easily deduce that most people like them! Maybe it's just because of more dust here, but I have to clean the "sliders" all the time on my mice. OTOH I do

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-09 Thread lee
Ralf Mardorf writes: > Hi :) > > when using a PS/2 mouse with stable or testing the mouse wheel very > seldom does work, usually it doesn't. For Ubuntu Maverick and Natty it's > the same. It might help to specify which protocol the mouse uses in your xorg.conf. IIRC, there´s some program to chec

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 20:54 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 09/06/11 19:44, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 21:45 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:05:30 -0400 (EDT), Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >>> ... > >>> Does Debian drop valid hardware, that isn't brand new? >

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/06/11 19:44, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 21:45 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: >> On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:05:30 -0400 (EDT), Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> ... >>> Does Debian drop valid hardware, that isn't brand new? >> >> I use a PS/2 mouse with Debian, but it does not have a wheel; >

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 21:45 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:05:30 -0400 (EDT), Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > ... > > Does Debian drop valid hardware, that isn't brand new? > > I use a PS/2 mouse with Debian, but it does not have a wheel; > so I can't address your specific situation

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-08 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:05:30 -0400 (EDT), Ralf Mardorf wrote: > ... > Does Debian drop valid hardware, that isn't brand new? I use a PS/2 mouse with Debian, but it does not have a wheel; so I can't address your specific situation. But as to your more general question about hardware support, I dou

Re: [OT] Mice (was: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse)

2011-06-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 11:32 +, Camaleón wrote: > What happens is that modern mice are a bit "ostentatious" and > full of buttons (or they're targeted to notebook users and are a bit > small). > > Yes, I'm very picky with my input peripherals :-) +1 > > > As for not working on clear surf

Re: [OT] Mice (was: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse)

2011-06-08 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:06:16 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 06:40:14PM +, Camaleón wrote: [cut] >> >> I still see some disadvantages for laser or BlueTrack based mice: >> >> 1/ They do not work on crystal or clear surfaces >> >> 2/ I find batteries (even rechargable) a

Re: [OT] Mice (was: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse)

2011-06-08 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 06:40:14PM +, Camaleón wrote: [cut] > > I still see some disadvantages for laser or BlueTrack based mice: > > 1/ They do not work on crystal or clear surfaces > > 2/ I find batteries (even rechargable) a PITA :-) > > 3/ There are also some security concerns in using

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-08 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 08 June 2011 00:37:05 Ron Johnson wrote: > >> You *like* ball mice? > > > > Yes - I find the extra traction far better.  I have difficulty > > controlling a laser mouse because there is virtually no traction.  I am > > slightly handicapped, so YMMV. > > Four little rubber "feet" on the

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-07 Thread KS
On 07/06/11 02:44 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > I guess wireless won't cause troubles for AF signals, but anyway I will > avoid wireless, because I won't do bodybuilding and I won't a battery > dieing, while I'm doing an audio production. Cable usually never gets > broken here. I only had to solder

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-07 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 08/06/11 03:37, Lisi wrote: > On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: >> I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and >> works very well. > > +1 Moreover, it has a ball not a light. I dread the day it dies!! > > Lisi > > +1 Ball mice never die! (they just lose their balls, seriously)

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-07 Thread Go Linux
: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 12:41 PM > On 06/07/2011 12:37 PM, Lisi wrote: > > On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: > >>   I'm using a PS/2 mouse with > Debian and > >> works very w

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/07/2011 06:00 PM, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2011 18:41:19 Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/07/2011 12:37 PM, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and works very well. +1 Moreover, it has a ball not a light. I dread the day it

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-07 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 07 June 2011 18:41:19 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 06/07/2011 12:37 PM, Lisi wrote: > > On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: > >>   I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and > >> works very well. > > > > +1  Moreover, it has a ball not a light.  I dread the day it dies!! > > You *lik

Re: [OT] Mice (was: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse)

2011-06-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 18:40 +, Camaleón wrote: > For intensive usage, heck... leave me with my Cherry corded keyboard with > a weight of ~1,8 kg and its characteristic "clack, clack" sound ;-) I've got two simple and good keyboards, one seems to be a Cherry and the other is better, because it

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 14:16 -0400, KS wrote: > On 07/06/11 01:52 PM, Camaleón wrote: > > On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:41:19 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > >> On 06/07/2011 12:37 PM, Lisi wrote: > >>> On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: > I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and >

[OT] Mice (was: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse)

2011-06-07 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 14:16:33 -0400, KS wrote: > On 07/06/11 01:52 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:41:19 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> >>> On 06/07/2011 12:37 PM, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: > I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and > wor

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 17:52 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:41:19 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On 06/07/2011 12:37 PM, Lisi wrote: > >> On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: > >>> I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and > >>> works very well. > >> > >> +1 Moreover,

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-07 Thread KS
On 07/06/11 01:52 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:41:19 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 06/07/2011 12:37 PM, Lisi wrote: >>> On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and works very well. >>> >>> +1 Moreover, it has a ball not a

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-07 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 12:41:19 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 06/07/2011 12:37 PM, Lisi wrote: >> On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: >>> I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and >>> works very well. >> >> +1 Moreover, it has a ball not a light. I dread the day it dies!! >> > You *lik

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/07/2011 12:37 PM, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and works very well. +1 Moreover, it has a ball not a light. I dread the day it dies!! You *like* ball mice? -- "Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws w

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-07 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 07 June 2011 14:23:19 Camaleón wrote: > I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and > works very well. +1 Moreover, it has a ball not a light. I dread the day it dies!! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Conta

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 13:23 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 01:05:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > (...) > > > I guess Debian and Ubuntu only have issues with PS/2 mice. > > I can't speak for Ubuntu, but I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and > works very well. I wonder what can

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-07 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 01:05:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: (...) > I guess Debian and Ubuntu only have issues with PS/2 mice. I can't speak for Ubuntu, but I'm using a PS/2 mouse with Debian and works very well. I wonder what can cause a simple PS/2 mouse to malfunction. Anything at Xorg's log

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/06/2011 09:48 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: [snip] How should I break mouse wheel support, when I break ALSA? I try to get Not at the same time, but with *different* fiddling. -- "Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manne

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/06/2011 06:05 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi :) when using a PS/2 mouse with stable or testing the mouse wheel very seldom does work, usually it doesn't. For Ubuntu Maverick and Natty it's the same. Did you choose 3-button emulation? -- "Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 21:23 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 06/06/2011 08:52 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 20:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 06/06/2011 07:33 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >>> On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 18:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 06/06/2011 06:05 PM, R

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 21:23 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 06/06/2011 08:52 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 20:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 06/06/2011 07:33 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >>> On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 18:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 06/06/2011 06:05 PM, R

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/06/2011 08:52 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 20:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/06/2011 07:33 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 18:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/06/2011 06:05 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Since you didn't tell us what kind of PS/2 mouse, how

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 21:33 -0400, Doug wrote: > On 06/06/2011 07:05 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Hi :) > > > > when using a PS/2 mouse with stable or testing the mouse wheel very > > seldom does work, usually it doesn't. For Ubuntu Maverick and Natty it's > > the same. > > > > I replaced the mouse

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 20:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 06/06/2011 07:33 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 18:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 06/06/2011 06:05 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> Since you didn't tell us what kind of PS/2 mouse, how in Eris' name are > >> we suppose

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-06 Thread Doug
On 06/06/2011 07:05 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi :) when using a PS/2 mouse with stable or testing the mouse wheel very seldom does work, usually it doesn't. For Ubuntu Maverick and Natty it's the same. I replaced the mouse with an USB mouse and the mouse wheel seems to work all the time, tested

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/06/2011 07:33 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 18:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/06/2011 06:05 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Since you didn't tell us what kind of PS/2 mouse, how in Eris' name are we supposed to help you? Trekker Wheel Mouse 2.0A Is that a MS two-button mou

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 18:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 06/06/2011 06:05 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Since you didn't tell us what kind of PS/2 mouse, how in Eris' name are > we supposed to help you? Trekker Wheel Mouse 2.0A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org wi

Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/06/2011 06:05 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi :) when using a PS/2 mouse with stable or testing the mouse wheel very seldom does work, usually it doesn't. For Ubuntu Maverick and Natty it's the same. [snip] Since you didn't tell us what kind of PS/2 mouse, how in Eris' name are we supposed t

PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse

2011-06-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi :) when using a PS/2 mouse with stable or testing the mouse wheel very seldom does work, usually it doesn't. For Ubuntu Maverick and Natty it's the same. I replaced the mouse with an USB mouse and the mouse wheel seems to work all the time, tested with Debian testing only. I didn't reboot very