Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-08 Thread tor...@riseup.net
On Jun 2, 2012 7:51 AM, Aubrey Raech aubreyra...@gmail.com wrote: Any and all advice/recommendations are appreciated! You could have a look at retroshare and tonido. Both are not in Debian repositories. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:24:22 -0500 Christofer C. Bell christofer.c.b...@gmail.com napísal: The point, however, is that there is no file transfer method that meets her requirements. 1. No dedicated server (no web, no sftp, no ftp, NFS, Samba, etc). 2. No usernames/logins (no sftp,

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Chris Davies
Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote: I agree with using ssh, but I'd configure it to force sftp upon login like this: I figured I'd frighten the OP if I added too much complexity. It's simpler to just AllowUsers user1 user2 user3 Fair point in the circumstances. 6. Make sure that your

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Chris Davies
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: ssh is a waste of time and effort in the circumstances as we know them. I wasn't suggesting ssh as an application. I was recommending ssh as a transport, on which one would layer an application such as WinSCP or FileZilla. But others are already making this

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Aubrey Raech
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 21:07:15 -0400 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: here's another interesting one: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/woof.html From the description: --- Woof (Web Offer One File) tries a different

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Aubrey Raech
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 23:16:09 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 15:27:15 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Brian wrote: I guess it depends on which packages you tell the installer to load. One of the options is web

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Aubrey Raech
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 20:28:22 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 09:34:55 -0500, green wrote: Brian, you seem to be assuming that the router has a public IP (on the WAN side), which is often not true. Unfortunately,

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Aubrey Raech
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 18:10:53 +0300 Mika Suomalainen mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com wrote: On 02.06.2012 09:21, Aubrey Raech wrote: On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:08:44 +0200 Tom Rausner t...@rausner.dk wrote: Dropbox ? Ah, and avoiding third-party servers was also a hopeful :-/ I'd prefer

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Aubrey Raech
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 15:16:19 +0100 Chris Davies chris-use...@roaima.co.uk wrote: Aubrey Raech aubreyra...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes I have the need to send files that are too large for email to a friend directly [...] 1. Not a proper server

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Aubrey Raech
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:24:22 -0500 Christofer C. Bell christofer.c.b...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] That said, there have been a number of suggestions towards modifying the OP's requirements and I'm interested in seeing the reasoning behind the

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Aubrey Raech
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 08:41:40 +0100 Chris Davies chris-use...@roaima.co.uk wrote: Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote: I agree with using ssh, but I'd configure it to force sftp upon login like this: I figured I'd frighten the OP if I added too

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Miles Fidelman
Aubrey Raech wrote: On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 21:07:15 -0400 Miles Fidelmanmfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: here's another interesting one: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/woof.html Woof is excellent! Woof's also in the debian package repositories, as is fex (from your previous message).

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Rob Owens
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 08:41:40AM +0100, Chris Davies wrote: Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote: I agree with using ssh, but I'd configure it to force sftp upon login like this: I figured I'd frighten the OP if I added too much complexity. Fair enough! It's simpler to just AllowUsers

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Rob Owens
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 02:31:02AM -0700, Aubrey Raech wrote: On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 15:16:19 +0100 Chris Davies chris-use...@roaima.co.uk wrote: 7. Use rsync (over ssh) or sftp to copy the files. Remember to tell them to use port 10022 (or whatever you decided in #1) instead of the

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 22:51:12 -0700, Aubrey Raech wrote: Sometimes I have the need to send files that are too large for email to a friend directly (such as recordings of music I am working on, or similar projects). I'm wondering if there is a program that I could use for direct transfer,

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Brian
On Sun 03 Jun 2012 at 02:28:43 -0700, Aubrey Raech wrote: On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 21:07:15 -0400 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: here's another interesting one: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/woof.html From the description: --- Woof (Web Offer One File)

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Tom Rausner
Dropbox ? On Jun 2, 2012 7:51 AM, Aubrey Raech aubreyra...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Debian users! Sometimes I have the need to send files that are too large for email to a friend directly (such as recordings of music I am working on, or similar

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Aubrey Raech
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:08:44 +0200 Tom Rausner t...@rausner.dk wrote: Dropbox ? Ah, and avoiding third-party servers was also a hopeful :-/ I'd prefer not to have my files out there on the web... more of a direct person-to-person transfer. I've

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread rjc
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 07:08:44AM BST, Tom Rausner wrote: Dropbox ? OP explicitly mentioned direct so it rules Dropbox out. Dropbox is closed source and only works on Intel-compatible platform so it rules it out for me for example. nc (netcat) is what the user is looking for. Cheers, -- rjc

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Brian
On Fri 01 Jun 2012 at 22:51:12 -0700, Aubrey Raech wrote: Sometimes I have the need to send files that are too large for email to a friend directly (such as recordings of music I am working on, or similar projects). I'm wondering if there is a program that I could use for direct transfer,

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Claudius Hubig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello Aubrey, Aubrey Raech aubreyra...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Not a proper server (http, ftp) 2. No usernames? (scp, rsync) 3. Preferably does not require a chat protocol (XMPP, IRC's DCC) - From what I can find it seems like XMPP would probably

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Brian
On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 12:41:22 +0200, Claudius Hubig wrote: Aubrey Raech aubreyra...@gmail.com wrote: Any and all advice/recommendations are appreciated! Do you have a have public IP address (either IPv4 or IPv6)? If that is not the case, you will need a third party in order to

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
Aubrey Raech wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Debian users! Sometimes I have the need to send files that are too large for email to a friend directly (such as recordings of music I am working on, or similar projects). I'm wondering if there is a program that I could

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Brian, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 12:41:22 +0200, Claudius Hubig wrote: Do you have a have public IP address (either IPv4 or IPv6)? If that is not the case, you will need a third party in order to establish the connection. A third party is not

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Mika Suomalainen
On 02.06.2012 09:21, Aubrey Raech wrote: On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:08:44 +0200 Tom Rausner t...@rausner.dk wrote: Dropbox ? Ah, and avoiding third-party servers was also a hopeful :-/ I'd prefer not to have my files out there on the web... more of a direct person-to-person transfer. I've

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Chris Davies
Aubrey Raech aubreyra...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes I have the need to send files that are too large for email to a friend directly [...] 1. Not a proper server (http, ftp) 2. No usernames? (scp, rsync) 3. Preferably does not require a chat protocol (XMPP, IRC's DCC) - From what I can find

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread hvw59601
Miles Fidelman wrote: Aubrey Raech wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Debian users! Sometimes I have the need to send files that are too large for email to a friend directly (such as recordings of music I am working on, or similar projects). I'm wondering if there is a

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Brian
On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 15:16:19 +0100, Chris Davies wrote: Yes. A proper server (http, ftp, ssh) would satisfy this requirement but you've excluded those with #1, #2. If your PCs can have Internet facing ports configured, I'd go for ssh/rsync every time. I have a similar, if not exactly the

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 02 iun 12, 16:02:05, Claudius Hubig wrote: No. I was not referring to a static but to a public IP address. If the user has a public, i. e. internet-routable IP address, everything is fine, even if it is not static. However, if the user sits behind a NAT or something similar that

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Brian
On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 09:14:12 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Aubrey Raech wrote: 1. Not a proper server (http, ftp) Pretty much all modern o/s's come with both a web server and ftp pre-installed. It's a matter of turning them on, and configuring them (if your target is running a GUI,

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread green
Brian wrote at 2012-06-02 08:13 -0500: On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 12:41:22 +0200, Claudius Hubig wrote: Do you have a have public IP address (either IPv4 or IPv6)? If that is not the case, you will need a third party in order to establish the connection. A third party is not required. For the

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread green
Andrei POPESCU wrote at 2012-06-02 13:34 -0500: On Sb, 02 iun 12, 16:02:05, Claudius Hubig wrote: No. I was not referring to a static but to a public IP address. If the user has a public, i. e. internet-routable IP address, everything is fine, even if it is not static. However, if the user

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
Brian wrote: On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 09:14:12 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Aubrey Raech wrote: 1. Not a proper server (http, ftp) Pretty much all modern o/s's come with both a web server and ftp pre-installed. It's a matter of turning them on, and configuring them (if your target is running a

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Brian
On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 09:34:55 -0500, green wrote: Brian, you seem to be assuming that the router has a public IP (on the WAN side), which is often not true. Unfortunately, many ISPs provide their customers with only private/local IPs behind NAT; inbound connections are therefore not

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 02 iun 12, 18:12:03, Brian wrote: There appears to be no advantage in using sshd in this situation. The idea of having to guide her through configuring a router and using ssh (on a Windows machine, incidentally) doesn't bear thinking about for one thing. 1. Why would the client have

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Brian
On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 15:27:15 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Brian wrote: I guess it depends on which packages you tell the installer to load. One of the options is web server, but I haven't set up a desktop installation lately (all my Debian is server-side), so I'm not really sure if

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Brian
On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 22:48:57 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 02 iun 12, 18:12:03, Brian wrote: There appears to be no advantage in using sshd in this situation. The idea of having to guide her through configuring a router and using ssh (on a Windows machine, incidentally) doesn't

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 22:48:57 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 02 iun 12, 18:12:03, Brian wrote: There appears to be no advantage in using sshd in this situation. The idea of having to guide her through configuring a

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
Brian wrote: On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 22:48:57 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 02 iun 12, 18:12:03, Brian wrote: There appears to be no advantage in using sshd in this situation. The idea of having to guide her through configuring a router and using ssh (on a Windows machine, incidentally)

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
Christofer C. Bell wrote: That's just it. Using anything *other* than ssh is a waste of time and effort most of the time as ssh requires no setup and effort to use out of the box not only in Debian but any modern Linux/Unix. *Everything else* requires effort to setup and use. The point,

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
here's another interesting one: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/woof.html From the description: --- Woof (Web Offer One File) tries a different approach. It assumes that everybody has a web-browser or a commandline web-client installed. Woof is a small simple stupid webserver that can

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 03:16:19PM +0100, Chris Davies wrote: Aubrey Raech aubreyra...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes I have the need to send files that are too large for email to a friend directly [...] 1. Not a proper server (http, ftp) 2. No usernames? (scp, rsync) 3. Preferably does

Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-01 Thread Aubrey Raech
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Debian users! Sometimes I have the need to send files that are too large for email to a friend directly (such as recordings of music I am working on, or similar projects). I'm wondering if there is a program that I could use for direct