I will try to install rsyslog by first. thanks Greg.
Another option is Devuan (Debian without systemd) which has less CVEs
anyway.
--
Regards, Kc
Kevin Chadwick (HE12025-09-10):
> Another option is Devuan (Debian without systemd) which has less CVEs
> anyway.
Can you clarify: does it have fewer CVEs because it has fewer security
flaws, or does it have fewer CVEs because it has all the security flaws
in Debian but nobody bothered to register
On 2025-09-10 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 01:25:33 +, Rob Hoo wrote:
>> I found that after I installed postfix by apt, mail.log was not appeared
>> in /var/log/.
>>
>> do you know how can I check the mail log then?
>
> Is the rsyslog package installed? It's not inst
ses, so you would need to add it in order to get human-readable
log files under /var/log.
Or, if you don't care about those files and just want to read the systemd
log files, you can use journalctl(1). Specifically, a command like
journalctl -u postfix
where "postfix" is the
On Mon 01/09/2025 at 21:14, David Christensen wrote:
> ... (The last time I checked, OpenZFS native encryption has open issues that
> I find unsuitable for production.)
Some interesting recent discussion on a major issue (data corruption resulting
from non-raw sends of zfs-native-encrypted snap
John Scott writes:
> P.S. In hindsight this email is overly verbose and detailed, perhaps
> intimidating, but it's good to have this detailed information in the
> list archives for future questions so I'm leaving it.
This was great, thank you very much!
On Mon, 01 Sep 2025 20:24:59 +
John Scott wrote:
> • can it be used during the installation with the Debian Installer
> such as for fetching packages over the network[.]
>
> To the second question, I don't think it's tested very often, but in
> principle it ough
>> On Mon 01 Sep 2025 at 16:15:39 (-0400), David Christensen wrote:
> a. Set the ZFS backup file system property "dedup". This will enable
> block-level de-duplication, which can de-duplicate data more than hard
> links alone.
This option eats RAM like candy, so make sure you have plenty.
>
Andy Smith wrote:
> This is the killer for non-trivial use of rsync-based backup methods.
> Traversing a directory tree of millions of inodes is expensive.
That depends an awful lot on the choice of filesystem. ext4 is
hopeless. I found XFS to be quite good, as was reiserfs back in the day.
On 9/2/25 17:41, Dan Ritter wrote:
From what I have seen on FreeBSD ZFS, under load ZFS can consume as much
memory as it needs. For storage servers, this is exactly what I want -- I
paid for that memory, I want ZFS to use it. But, I have little experience
with ZFS on workstations; where many p
David Christensen wrote:
> On 9/1/25 14:57, Karl Vogel wrote:
> > > > On Mon 01 Sep 2025 at 16:15:39 (-0400), David Christensen wrote:
> > > a. Set the ZFS backup file system property "dedup". This will enable
> > > block-level de-duplication, which can de-duplicate data more than hard
> > > lin
On 9/2/25 16:48, Dan Ritter wrote:
It would be interesting to know the OpenZFS developers' opinion of dedup for
backup workloads, including special vdev class vs. dedup vdev class.
That is addressed at the end, and, in particular, you should
note the bit about reflinks... which for any workload
On 9/2/25 11:12, Andy Smith wrote:
Hi,
Hello. :-)
On Tue, Sep 02, 2025 at 09:05:39AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
David Christensen wrote:
a. Set the ZFS backup file system property "dedup". This will enable
block-level de-duplication, which can de-duplicate data more than hard links
alone
On 9/2/25 06:05, Dan Ritter wrote:
David Christensen wrote:
a. Set the ZFS backup file system property "dedup". This will enable
block-level de-duplication, which can de-duplicate data more than hard links
alone.
This is generally not a good thing to recommend; one of the
authors of the sys
On 9/1/25 14:57, Karl Vogel wrote:
On Mon 01 Sep 2025 at 16:15:39 (-0400), David Christensen wrote:
a. Set the ZFS backup file system property "dedup". This will enable
block-level de-duplication, which can de-duplicate data more than hard
links alone.
This option eats RAM like candy, so
Hi,
On Tue, Sep 02, 2025 at 09:05:39AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> David Christensen wrote:
> > a. Set the ZFS backup file system property "dedup". This will enable
> > block-level de-duplication, which can de-duplicate data more than hard links
> > alone.
>
> This is generally not a good thing
David Christensen wrote:
> On 9/2/25 06:05, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > David Christensen wrote:
> > >
> > > a. Set the ZFS backup file system property "dedup". This will enable
> > > block-level de-duplication, which can de-duplicate data more than hard
> > > links
> > > alone.
> >
> > This is gen
David Christensen wrote:
>
> a. Set the ZFS backup file system property "dedup". This will enable
> block-level de-duplication, which can de-duplicate data more than hard links
> alone.
This is generally not a good thing to recommend; one of the
authors of the system wrote a good article which
the very limited screen and keyboard of the cash register I was
working on. I don't recall details of the hardware, or whether it was
particularly limited, but the OS in question was RH 7!
I've been running linux since 1999, and one thing that I've noticed is that
newer ver
lled system
• can it be used during the installation with the Debian Installer such as for
fetching packages over the network
To the second question, I don't think it's tested very often, but in principle
it ought to and I'll try to do a test after sending this mail.
Hereafter
On 8/31/25 16:05, Andy Smith wrote:
On Sun, Aug 31, 2025 at 12:20:05PM -, Greg wrote:
On 2025-08-29, Andy Smith wrote:
For non-trivial
amounts of files I would not recommend rsnapshot or any other
rsync-based backup system in 2025.
Can we know why not (rsnapshot)
I've written about it
Hi,
On Sun, Aug 31, 2025 at 12:20:05PM -, Greg wrote:
> On 2025-08-29, Andy Smith wrote:
> >
> > I have more than 20 years of experience using rsnpashot. For non-trivial
> > amounts of files I would not recommend rsnapshot or any other
> > rsync-based backup system in 2025. "Non-trivial" is s
On 2025-08-29, Andy Smith wrote:
>
> I have more than 20 years of experience using rsnpashot. For non-trivial
> amounts of files I would not recommend rsnapshot or any other
> rsync-based backup system in 2025. "Non-trivial" is still a pretty large
> amount though and rsnapshot does have the extre
On 8/30/25 07:45, mick.crane wrote:
Hi,
I've numerous PCs, old but seem quick enough for me.
pfsense one ~120Gb disk
Bookworm PC one ~200Gb disk doing Webmail with apache also offering
links to documents and that.
Bookworm PC one ~200Gb disk and a 3Tb disk mounted in fstab that I work on.
Bookw
On Friday 29 August 2025 02:14:12 pm alain williams wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 02:15:29PM -0400, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > On Friday 29 August 2025 07:16:19 am Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > There are backup suites
> > > that build on top of rsync, giving you a way to store many backups
> >
On 2025-08-29 23:53, Andy Smith wrote:
Also are these three disks currently in three operating bootable other
machines, or do you have three disks in one machine and you boot and
choose between them via the bootloader, i.e. only one of them is
in use at any given time?
And are all these disks i
On 2025-08-29, alain williams wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 03:57:42PM -, Greg wrote:
>
> RAID is NOT backup - if you delete a file on a RAID-1 (mirror) system then the
> file is deleted on both mirrors. Much the same on other RAID levels.
Thank you for this because it provides a succinct
Hi,
this is a contribution to the discussion what a plain disk image
records intrinsically and what many backup programs record only on
special request or don't record at all.
Andy Smith wrote:
> > Though if the goal is disk imaging there are some complications with
> > tar:
> > - By default does
?
Please answer the above questions. This will help clarify what you
have, what you want, and what solutions make sense.
On 8/29/25 02:55, mick.crane wrote:
> I apologise for not being clear in my question I should know by now
> not to post if "tired".
> For the purpose of ba
isks.
OK.
Can I dd copy them to .isos on the 1 Tb disk then put them back on other
disks so they boot?
Ah, you mean one of them is your OS disk, and that you want to remove that
OS disk and put in a new OS disk.
I apologise for not being clear in my question I should know by now not to post
On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 11:03:20PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> - By default doesn't preserve extended attributes unless you make use of
> some quite obscure options that you'll have to look up in the
> documentation: --xattrs --xattrs-include='*.*' (both required, no I
> can never remember th
Hi,
On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 02:25:48PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 14:15:29 -0400, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > On Friday 29 August 2025 07:16:19 am Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > There are backup suites
> > > that build on top of rsync, giving you a way to store many back
Hi,
On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 02:13:54PM +0100, alain williams wrote:
> If your purpose is backup - then you are *far* better mounting the disk as a
> file system and then copying files somewhere using tar or cpio. That somewhere
> could be a disk - although something like a USB memory stick would b
On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 10:53:11PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> And are all these disks in the same machine?
If they are not in the same machine that implies that you are plugging them
in & out. If that is so take a lot of care, it is not too hard to damage a
connector - I have done that, although
Hi,
On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 06:10:30PM +0100, mick.crane wrote:
> Yes, I have in the past written to the wrong disk.
Tip: Try to stick to using the links in /dev/disk/by-* and keep looking
at the output of:
$ lsblk -d -oname,size,model,serial
to keep fresh in your mind what is what.
Thanks,
An
Hi,
On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 10:55:22AM +0100, mick.crane wrote:
> For the purpose of backing up 3 ~200Gb disks, with Debian operating
> systems on them, I wondered if I can put them all on one 1Tb disk and
> be able to copy them back.
The best way to do this depends upon whether you intend this t
On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 02:25:48PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 14:15:29 -0400, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > On Friday 29 August 2025 07:16:19 am Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > There are backup suites
> > > that build on top of rsync, giving you a way to store many backups
>
On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 14:15:29 -0400, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> On Friday 29 August 2025 07:16:19 am Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > There are backup suites
> > that build on top of rsync, giving you a way to store many backups
> > without needing to store duplicate copies of the unchanged files.
>
On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 02:15:29PM -0400, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> On Friday 29 August 2025 07:16:19 am Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > There are backup suites
> > that build on top of rsync, giving you a way to store many backups
> > without needing to store duplicate copies of the unchanged files.
On Friday 29 August 2025 07:16:19 am Greg Wooledge wrote:
> There are backup suites
> that build on top of rsync, giving you a way to store many backups
> without needing to store duplicate copies of the unchanged files.
>
Care to list some of those? I need to get some kind of a backup process g
On 2025-08-29 12:43, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Copying back is just a matter swapping if= and of= paths.
(That's the part when you need strong nerves. of=/dev/sdX is quite a
frightening dd argument.)
Yes, I have in the past written to the wrong disk.
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
Thank you for yo
thing
> up).
Your understanding is correct.
> Now, I am fuzzy on a RAID array (the OP's question calls this to my
> mind), which I think is a series of disks with the same content so that
> if one fails, you can replace it with another. But not to be used as a
> backup strategy.
anything
up).
Now, I am fuzzy on a RAID array (the OP's question calls this to my
mind), which I think is a series of disks with the same content so that
if one fails, you can replace it with another. But not to be used as a
backup strategy.
> Why:
>
> • you are copying the data
Le vendredi 29 août 2025, 01:52:24 heure d’été d’Europe centrale mick.crane a
écrit :
> If I've got 3 200Gb disks that are working and one 1 Tb disk and want to
> be able to copy and replace the 3 disks.
> Can I dd copy them to .isos on the 1 Tb disk then put them back on other
> disks so they boo
On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 02:02:43PM +0100, mick.crane wrote:
> I have my data on a separate disk that I copy to various places every now
> and again.
> I guess simplest is original plan ( as have been previously given the
> incantation ) to get 3 ~200Gb disks and dd to them.
If your purpose is bac
On 2025-08-29 12:16, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 10:55:22 +0100, mick.crane wrote:
For the purpose of backing up 3 ~200Gb disks, with Debian operating
systems
on them, I wondered if I can put them all on one 1Tb disk and be able
to
copy them back.
Well, yes, you could.
Not
Hi,
mick.crane wrote:
> For the purpose of backing up 3 ~200Gb disks, with Debian operating systems
> on them, I wondered if I can put them all on one 1Tb disk and be able to
> copy them back.
Yes. There are a lot of ways to do it.
> > Can I dd copy them to .isos on the 1 Tb disk then put them
On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 10:55:22 +0100, mick.crane wrote:
> For the purpose of backing up 3 ~200Gb disks, with Debian operating systems
> on them, I wondered if I can put them all on one 1Tb disk and be able to
> copy them back.
Well, yes, you could.
> Not really understanding how dd works wonder
os on the 1 Tb disk then put them back on other
disks so they boot?
Ah, you mean one of them is your OS disk, and that you want to remove
that
OS disk and put in a new OS disk.
I apologise for not being clear in my question I should know by now not
to post if "tired".
For the purpos
other
disks so they boot?
Ah, you mean one of them is your OS disk, and that you want to remove
that
OS disk and put in a new OS disk.
I apologise for not being clear in my question I should know by now not
to post if "tired".
For the purpose of backing up 3 ~200Gb disks, with D
On 8/28/25 16:52, mick.crane wrote:
If I've got 3 200Gb disks that are working and one 1 Tb disk and want to
be able to copy and replace the 3 disks.
Can I dd copy them to .isos on the 1 Tb disk then put them back on other
disks so they boot?
Copy them to 3 partitions on the 1 Tb disk and dd an
On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 12:52:24AM +0100, mick.crane wrote:
> If I've got 3 200Gb disks that are working and one 1 Tb disk and want to be
> able to copy and replace the 3 disks.
> Can I dd copy them to .isos on the 1 Tb disk then put them back on other
> disks so they boot?
Nit: those are not .iso
On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 00:52:24 +0100, mick.crane wrote:
> If I've got 3 200Gb disks that are working and one 1 Tb disk and want to be
> able to copy and replace the 3 disks.
OK.
> Can I dd copy them to .isos on the 1 Tb disk then put them back on other
> disks so they boot?
Ah, you mean one o
If I've got 3 200Gb disks that are working and one 1 Tb disk and want to
be able to copy and replace the 3 disks.
Can I dd copy them to .isos on the 1 Tb disk then put them back on other
disks so they boot?
Copy them to 3 partitions on the 1 Tb disk and dd an individual
partition to another disk
On 8/25/25 09:49, Tran Duc Minh wrote:
Subject: Question: Using USB Wi-Fi adapters with older Debian versions
Dear Debian Community,
I have a question about Wi-Fi support on older Debian releases.
If my laptop’s built-in Wi-Fi is not supported by Debian 11 or 12, is it
possible to use a USB
On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 06:49:07PM +0300, Tran Duc Minh wrote:
> Subject: Question: Using USB Wi-Fi adapters with older Debian versions
>
> Dear Debian Community,
>
> I have a question about Wi-Fi support on older Debian releases.
> If my laptop’s built-in Wi-Fi is not support
Hi,
On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 06:49:07PM +0300, Tran Duc Minh wrote:
> is it possible to use a USB Wi-Fi adapter during installation to get
> internet access?
Yes, I have used both USB wifi and USB Ethernet to install Debian on
laptops more than 10 years ago. There was no problem as long as the
dev
Tran Duc Minh wrote:
> Subject: Question: Using USB Wi-Fi adapters with older Debian versions
>
> Dear Debian Community,
>
> I have a question about Wi-Fi support on older Debian releases.
> If my laptop’s built-in Wi-Fi is not supported by Debian 11 or 12, is
> it possib
On Aug 25, 2025, Tran Duc Minh wrote:
> Subject: Question: Using USB Wi-Fi adapters with older Debian versions
>
> Dear Debian Community,
>
> I have a question about Wi-Fi support on older Debian releases.
> If my laptop’s built-in Wi-Fi is not supported by Debian 11 or 12, i
Subject: Question: Using USB Wi-Fi adapters with older Debian versions
Dear Debian Community,
I have a question about Wi-Fi support on older Debian releases.
If my laptop’s built-in Wi-Fi is not supported by Debian 11 or 12, is it
possible to use a USB Wi-Fi adapter during installation to get
пт, 15 авг. 2025 г. в 21:13, Fred :
> Can a VPN be used on a per instance basis or once installed it has to be
> used for all (browser) use?
After reading most of thread (not all):
If I understand you right — you need access in the browser to some
sites via vpn and direct access to others without
On 8/15/25 14:14, Tim Woodall wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2025, Fred wrote:
On 8/15/25 09:26, Dan Ritter wrote:
Fred wrote:
Hello,
Can a VPN be used on a per instance basis or once installed it has
to be
used for all (browser) use?
A VPN is a network connection that (usually) appears just like
ome regional ISP), so you
are better off with a popular VPN than a small one.
Finally, there's a question of how paranoid are you? What's your threat
model? If you're wanting a VPN provider because you're an international
spy and getting caught could cost millions of lives, th
When compiling the kernel with make -j `getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN` deb-pkg the
resulting .deb packages are generated in the parent directory.
Is there a way to choose a specific directory where those packages will be
placed?
I have researched this issue and found partial answers about modifying
On Fri, 15 Aug 2025, at 21:02, Dan Ritter wrote:
> If you are buying a service from someone, you should be asking
> them what is possible and what they support, and making
> decisions about how trustworthy they are for your use case.
How does assess the trustworthiness of a VPN provider?
--
Je
On Fri, 15 Aug 2025, Fred wrote:
On 8/15/25 09:26, Dan Ritter wrote:
Fred wrote:
Hello,
Can a VPN be used on a per instance basis or once installed it has to be
used for all (browser) use?
A VPN is a network connection that (usually) appears just like
another network interface.
It can be c
Fred wrote:
> On 8/15/25 09:26, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > Fred wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Can a VPN be used on a per instance basis or once installed it has to be
> > > used for all (browser) use?
> >
> > A VPN is a network connection that (usually) appears just like
> > another network interfa
On 8/15/25 12:38 PM, Fred wrote:
On 8/15/25 09:26, Dan Ritter wrote:
Fred wrote:
Hello,
Can a VPN be used on a per instance basis or once installed it has
to be
used for all (browser) use?
A VPN is a network connection that (usually) appears just like
another network interface.
It can be
On 8/15/25 09:26, Dan Ritter wrote:
Fred wrote:
Hello,
Can a VPN be used on a per instance basis or once installed it has to be
used for all (browser) use?
A VPN is a network connection that (usually) appears just like
another network interface.
It can be configured to send all traffic elsew
Fred wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Can a VPN be used on a per instance basis or once installed it has to be
> used for all (browser) use?
A VPN is a network connection that (usually) appears just like
another network interface.
It can be configured to send all traffic elsewhere, or traffic
to a particul
On 8/15/25 6:07 PM, Fred wrote:
Can a VPN be used on a per instance basis or once installed it has to be
used for all (browser) use?
We have no context, share with us why you want to know that (the use case)?
This is possible to select what traffic goes through the VPN.
--
John Doe
Hello,
Can a VPN be used on a per instance basis or once installed it has to be
used for all (browser) use?
Best regards,
Fred
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 12:58:48 - (UTC)
Greg wrote:
> On 2025-07-29, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >> On 2025-07-28, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >> > The problem has become *MOOT*.
>
> >> No, it hasn't, and that's not what moot means.
> >
> > See the 2nd definition.
>
> I did. Why would
On 2025-07-29, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On 2025-07-28, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> > The problem has become *MOOT*.
>> No, it hasn't, and that's not what moot means.
>
> See the 2nd definition.
I did. Why would extracting information from, or converting a PDF to a
spreadsheet format, suddenly
f no practical importance; irrelevant.
Not presenting an open legal question, as a result of the occurrence of some
event definitively resolving the issue, or the absence of a genuine case or
controversy.
'
Can you all please stop.
--
John Doe
On 2025-07-29, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 03:29:25 -0400, Lee Winter wrote:
>> Nope!
>> DASH is known to be pure garbage.
>> -- Lee
>
> [citation needed]
>
> A quick Google search shows endorsements by U.S. News and World Report,
> the Mayo Clinic, and Harvard's School of Publi
On 2025-07-28, Richard Owlett wrote:
> The problem has become *MOOT*.
No, it hasn't, and that's not what moot means.
> As I reported elsewhere I've found the spreadsheets the PDF was based on.
Did you mention spreadsheets in your original problem statement?
Did you say, "I would like to conve
On 2025-07-28, Ralph Aichinger wrote:
>
>> To be frank, given the question, he'd be significantly better off just
>> asking one of the robots, where you can upload PDFs, than here, where
>> people go off in any direction and seem to have permanent chips on
>
On 2025-07-28, Andy Smith wrote:
>
> I started off with a degree of sympathy for what you were saying, but
> you haven't managed to talk about what it is you DO want, only about
> what you DON'T want.
No, you're right, though I don't need your sympathy. I don't want
anything because Debian Stable
read with PDF related questions, my responses were essentially
"Why are you trying to do?" rather than an answer to to a narrowly
focused question.
A correct, but skew answer, could have been "to gain dietary information
to lower probability of another heart attack". Nutriti
On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 03:29:25 -0400, Lee Winter wrote:
> Nope!
> DASH is known to be pure garbage.
> -- Lee
[citation needed]
A quick Google search shows endorsements by U.S. News and World Report,
the Mayo Clinic, and Harvard's School of Public Health.
responses were essentially
"Why are you trying to do?" rather than an answer to to a narrowly
focused question.
A correct, but skew answer, could have been "to gain dietary information
to lower probability of another heart attack". Nutritionists had given
me answers that more a set o
On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 03:29:25AM -0400, Lee Winter wrote:
> Nope!
> DASH is known to be pure garbage.
With nutritional things, we are severely OT here. This is, whithin
measure, OK. But think, at least, of changing the Subject.
While "... is known to be...", well, I could say "the Earth is know
DHD}] ask questions in this particular forum?
> >
> > Why do I ask?
> > In my read with PDF related questions, my responses were essentially
> > "Why are you trying to do?" rather than an answer to to a narrowly
> > focused question.
> >
> > A corr
nses were essentially
> "Why are you trying to do?" rather than an answer to to a narrowly
> focused question.
>
> A correct, but skew answer, could have been "to gain dietary information
> to lower probability of another heart attack". Nutritionists had given
> m
list is one of the worse examples in my
> >>> (limited) experience. Every question gets non-answered by a bunch
> >>> of people who don't really know about your exact situation, but
> >>> think they have some valuable input. Often the same bunch of
> &g
On 7/28/25 1:26 PM, Joe wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:39:21 - (UTC)
Greg wrote:
On 2025-07-27, Anders Andersson wrote:
The Debian user mailing list is one of the worse examples in my
(limited) experience. Every question gets non-answered by a bunch of
people who don't really know
Don't you people have anything productive to do???
Please stop this nonsense and get back to work!
Find a useful job~!
On 7/28/2025 9:37 AM, Greg wrote:
On 2025-07-28, Charles Curley wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 16:04:12 - (UTC)
Greg wrote:
I don't need support, and in the rare case I do
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:39:21 - (UTC)
Greg wrote:
> On 2025-07-27, Anders Andersson wrote:
> >
> > The Debian user mailing list is one of the worse examples in my
> > (limited) experience. Every question gets non-answered by a bunch of
> > people who don
On 7/28/25 12:03 PM, Ralph Aichinger wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 01:18:22PM -, Greg wrote:
His question isn't complex, though. He has *this* PDF from which he
wants to extract *that* data so that it is readily exploitable, legible,
presentable, etc. If that isn't it, then the
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 01:18:22PM -, Greg wrote:
> His question isn't complex, though. He has *this* PDF from which he
> wants to extract *that* data so that it is readily exploitable, legible,
> presentable, etc. If that isn't it, then the fault lies with him, not us.
Oh
Hi,
Greg wrote:
> [...] not one woman among them, to be sure, not one. None.
> Not a single, single one [..]
We cannot help you until you tell us maker, model and firmware
version of your gender bias.
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
On 2025-07-28, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 16:04:12 - (UTC)
> Greg wrote:
>
>> I don't need support, and in the rare case I do, don't ask questions
>> here.
>>
>> I use a search engine and usually find an answer to my query on stack
>> exchange, or reddit, or somewhere else,
Hi,
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 04:04:12PM -, Greg wrote:
> On 2025-07-28, Andy Smith wrote:
> > It really depends on what you're looking for.
>
> I don't need support, and in the rare case I do, don't ask questions here.
>
> I use a search engine and usually find an answer to my query on stack
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 16:04:12 - (UTC)
Greg wrote:
> I don't need support, and in the rare case I do, don't ask questions
> here.
>
> I use a search engine and usually find an answer to my query on stack
> exchange, or reddit, or somewhere else, but *never* in the debian-list
> archives, which
On 2025-07-28, Andy Smith wrote:
>
> I would encourage you to try some other venues for support. I don't say
> that to be dismissive. I say it because it seems like the only practical
> choice (and it's the choice that I think ~everyone is going to converge
> on). It really depends on what you're
Hi,
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 02:39:21PM -, Greg wrote:
> Every question is non-answered by an intimate clan of aging men with
> toxic attitudes and enormous anal-retention, who believe everyone
> should be using mutt or gnus like them and don't know or give a shit
> ab
> This, precisely. They are only talking to themselves, as I have noted
> previously (maybe Max N., who seems interested in this kind of
> foolishness, can verify the date stamps). Every question is non-answered
> by an intimate clan of aging men with toxic attitudes and enormous
>
Greg (HE12025-07-28):
> It's really time for a change here.
Everybody loves people who have been there barely more than six months
and want to throw everything away.
This kind of discourse evokes, more than anything else, somebody who is
pissed that the answers they got for their quest
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