Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-11-05 Thread Kevin Buhr
AG writes: > > On one disk I found something that booted into the grub prompt. I > did some reading up on grub and some basic commands. I didn't get > very far - it reports back that there is an ext2fs loaded on > /dev/hda1 which I'm assuming was root, although I am sure that when > I partitione

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-11-03 Thread AG
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 11:16:55AM +, AG wrote: [...] I'm thinking that the way forward would be via the GRUB prompt I was able to get off of an old floppy, but to do so would mean being able to by-pass LILO and boot into the first partition on the HD (/), and

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-11-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 11:16:55AM +, AG wrote: [...] > I'm thinking that the way forward would be via the GRUB prompt I was > able to get off of an old floppy, but to do so would mean being able > to by-pass LILO and boot into the first partition on the HD (/), and > then go into LILO.conf and

RE: A laptop installation challenge

2009-11-01 Thread Kevin Ross
> However, I cannot locate the HD, and suspect > that it is under a thin aluminium frame which > will involve dismantling the entire casing. > Under the key pad I can see the IDE ribbon and > connector so can locate the HD - I just don't > see a viable way of accessing it. > The laptop

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-11-01 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 09:40:12AM +, AG was heard to say: > On one disk I found something that booted into the grub prompt. I > did some reading up on grub and some basic commands. I didn't get > very far - it reports back that there is an ext2fs loaded on > /dev/hda1 which I'm assuming wa

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-11-01 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 01 November 2009 15:19:31 Tim Tebbit wrote: > Perhaps the local library would have old enough machines to write > floppies? Is there a LUG nearby that could write floppies for you? I can write floppies. Let me know what floppy exactly you want, and your snail mail address (off list, of

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-11-01 Thread Tim Tebbit
AG wrote: > Could be my lack of clarity in writing and precision in terminology :-) > > I was installing Deb testing over a previously installed Slackware > system due to a number of hardware restrictions. First I downloaded a > new version of vmlinuz and initrd.gz and moved those into a director

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-11-01 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Hi again, AG: On Saturday 31 October 2009 19:41:16 AG wrote: > Jesús M. Navarro wrote: > > Hi, AG: > > > > On Saturday 31 October 2009 18:49:14 AG wrote: > >> Tim Tebbit wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> (3) The laptop's BIOS is too old to allow booting from a USB (only > >> allows HD, CD or floppy).

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-11-01 Thread AG
Stan Hoeppner wrote: AG put forth on 10/31/2009 12:49 PM: (3) The laptop's BIOS is too old to allow booting from a USB (only allows HD, CD or floppy). It requires something to boot first before it can mount additional files such a USB stick. AG put forth on 10/31/2009 10:41 AM: Th

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-11-01 Thread AG
Alex Samad wrote: On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 09:40:12AM +, AG wrote: Kevin Ross wrote: [snip] I took the back completely off this evening and although the CD drive now spins when a CD is inserted (there's progress), it doesn't if its an ide interface, why not plug it into a

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-11-01 Thread Alex Samad
On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 09:40:12AM +, AG wrote: > Kevin Ross wrote: [snip] > > I took the back completely off this evening and although the CD > drive now spins when a CD is inserted (there's progress), it doesn't if its an ide interface, why not plug it into another hd instead of a cdrom !

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-11-01 Thread AG
Kevin Ross wrote: From: jamesb [mailto:jaggin...@videotron.ca] Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:18 PM i'm assuming you would be able to use at least iexplorer 3 or something with win 3.1.. it sure is a challenge but definitely possible ;) (it's likely you might have to copy win32s and iexpl

RE: Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-10-31 Thread Kevin Ross
> From: jamesb [mailto:jaggin...@videotron.ca] > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:18 PM > > i'm assuming you would be able to use at least iexplorer 3 or > something > with win 3.1.. it sure is a challenge but definitely possible ;) > (it's likely you might have to copy win32s and iexplorer o

Re: Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-10-31 Thread jamesb
Tim Tebbit wrote: AG wrote: Cheers for the suggestions. I may well be up the proverbial creek with this one. Thanks for the tips re removing the screws - I'll give that a shot. Coincidentally - and a long shot - I found an old set of Win3.1 installation floppies whilst looking around for som

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-10-31 Thread Tim Tebbit
AG wrote: > Cheers for the suggestions. I may well be up the proverbial creek with > this one. Thanks for the tips re removing the screws - I'll give that a > shot. > > Coincidentally - and a long shot - I found an old set of Win3.1 > installation floppies whilst looking around for something I

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-10-31 Thread AG
Tim Tebbit wrote: AG wrote: Only the three options noted - CD, floppy and HD. The BIOS does not (appear to) support PXE ... at least that is not given as an option anyway. Sounds like you are left with physically removing the hdd. Of course you could try to /wish/ the OS to appear.

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-10-31 Thread Tim Tebbit
AG wrote: > Only the three options noted - CD, floppy and HD. The BIOS does not > (appear to) support PXE ... at least that is not given as an option anyway. Sounds like you are left with physically removing the hdd. Of course you could try to /wish/ the OS to appear. :) You had mentioned the

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-10-31 Thread AG
Jesús M. Navarro wrote: Hi, AG: On Saturday 31 October 2009 18:49:14 AG wrote: Tim Tebbit wrote: [...] (3) The laptop's BIOS is too old to allow booting from a USB (only allows HD, CD or floppy). It requires something to boot first before it can mount additional files such a USB

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-10-31 Thread Klistvud
Grub allows editing on-the-fly (when the Grub menu appears, you can press e and edit Grub stanzas directly). Is there such functionality in Lilo? I've never used Lilo, unfortunately. Seems to me that sneakernet (taking your floppy to some other machine with a floppy drive) will be your only opt

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-10-31 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Hi, AG: On Saturday 31 October 2009 18:49:14 AG wrote: > Tim Tebbit wrote: [...] > (3) The laptop's BIOS is too old to allow booting from a USB (only > allows HD, CD or floppy). It requires something to boot first before it > can mount additional files such a USB stick. Does it support booting

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-10-31 Thread AG
Tim Tebbit wrote: AG wrote: Then I copied a netinst *.iso image onto a USB stick and booted. Thanks for any ideas. Does this mean you can boot from USB? If that's the case a simple debootstrap install from knoppix would be fairly quick and easy. http://www.debian.org/relea

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-10-31 Thread Tim Tebbit
AG wrote: > Then I copied a netinst *.iso image onto a USB stick and > booted. > Thanks for any ideas. Does this mean you can boot from USB? If that's the case a simple debootstrap install from knoppix would be fairly quick and easy. http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en -

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-10-31 Thread S. Fishpaste
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:41:44 +, AG in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: > On a previous thread, I had polled some advice on the best way to > install Debian on an old laptop that lacked a CD drive. A number of > suggestions were made and I eventually went with the idea of changing > the pre-ex

Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-10-31 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
Taking the laptop's hard disk and using it as a secondary hard disk on another computer with mini ide to ide converter would do the trick. If you have another computer and said converter. 2009/10/31 AG > On a previous thread, I had polled some advice on the best way to install > Debian on an old