On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 11:36:57PM +0200, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote:
Pat Mahoney wrote:
So I offered her to install GNU/Linux on her machine and set it up for
every tasks she wants to do.
Can I ask why you want her to run GNU/Linux? (I mean, not that I don't want
her running it...)
On Thu, 4 May 2000, James Ravan wrote:
Based on my experience with Debian Linux to date, I also take a simplistic
view. Windows has worked with all the hardware changes I have made to my
machine since I bought it this past January.
Linux can be simple too... try to move a harddisk between
Steve == Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Steve Then why keep bringing it up? I just find it amusing
Steve that the selling point of a unix-like system is that it is
Steve modular and flexible so the first thing most people point
Steve to is a Microsoft-esque monolith
Pat Mahoney wrote:
So I offered her to install GNU/Linux on her machine and set it up for
every tasks she wants to do.
Can I ask why you want her to run GNU/Linux? (I mean, not that I don't want
her running it...)
Well to quote you: I'd rather see everyone running free software. Plus,
At 12:31 PM 5/4/00 +0800, Corey Popelier wrote:
I take an extremely simplistic view. I'd use Windows more if it didn't
crash 20 times a day. That's why I use Linux. Simple.
Based on my experience with Debian Linux to date, I also take a simplistic
view. Windows has worked with all the
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: Emacs - was Re: Mail/news
software:
Richard == Richard Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Richard Win hasn't required an autoexec.bat since '95. -- My
Richard other computer's running Debian. {www.debian.org}
I think you need
James Ravan wrote:
At 12:31 PM 5/4/00 +0800, Corey Popelier wrote:
I take an extremely simplistic view. I'd use Windows more if it didn't
crash 20 times a day. That's why I use Linux. Simple.
Based on my experience with Debian Linux to date, I also take a simplistic
view. Windows has
Let me reply to myself here. This kinda came off wrong.
On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 10:15:37PM -0500, Pat Mahoney wrote:
Linux[1] is much more difficult (to learn anyway) yet much more powerful than,
say, windows. The Windows philosophy is: don't think, everything should be
easy. With linux, you
Pat == Pat Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Pat For me, Linux makes me think. For others, windows may make
Pat them think. For still others, something else (not computer
Pat related) may make them think. If linux makes you think,
Pat good. If windows makes you think, good. If
I take an extremely simplistic view. I'd use Windows more if it didn't
crash 20 times a day. That's why I use Linux. Simple.
Cheers,
Corey Popelier
http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~pancreas
Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 4 May 2000, Brian May wrote:
Pat == Pat Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello all there,
On Wed, 3 May 2000, Steve Lamb wrote:
For me it isn't a GUI/CLI mindset it is simply the ability to do what
needs to be done. Windows doesn't let me do that in most cases. The standard
'nix utilities provide a lot of automation for mundane tasks.
I've been following
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Pat == Pat Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Pat For me, Linux makes me think. For others, windows may make
Pat them think. For still others, something else (not computer
Pat related) may make them think. If linux makes you think,
Pat good.
On Thu, 04 May 2000, Brian May wrote:
For me, the problem with Windows is you have to think when thinking
should not be required. Take for instance, autoexec.bat.
I know a Windows computer, that whenever it starts, it flashes up
with the message Bad command or filename for a few seconds
On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 05:05:38PM +0200, Kovacs Istvan wrote:
The ideal software would be able to handle both mail and news in an
integrated manner, place incoming and outgoing messages into folders
YARN, when used in combination with a SOUP package handler, is much
like that (except for
On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 09:17:30PM -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote:
I feel compelled to respond...
On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 10:15:37PM -0500, Pat Mahoney wrote:
Linux[1] is much more difficult (to learn anyway) yet much more
powerful than, say, windows. The Windows philosophy is: don't think,
Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 9:10:53 PM, Pat wrote:
important and I don't see Windows 9x or NT giving this, although I have zero
experience with NT. But I do know that to kill a runaway process in Win95
you have to Ctrl-Alt-Delete, wait for the little window to pop up (forgot
what it's called), and
Richard Lyon wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Steve Lamb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 30 April 2000 10:11 PM
To: Kovacs Istvan
Cc: Debian User List
Subject: Re: Mail/news software
I don't like the Netscape browser on either Win98 or Linux. It's clunky
-Original Message-
From: Phillip Deackes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 30 April 2000 11:13 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Mail/news software
I am very sorry if I offend, but I find emacs/xemacs about the most
off-putting thing in Linux. Show a newbie
-Original Message-
From: Phillip Deackes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 30 April 2000 11:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Mail/news software
I disagree and am continually posting info about an excellent email app
called Ishmail
-Original Message-
From: Steve Lamb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 30 April 2000 10:11 PM
To: Kovacs Istvan
Cc: Debian User List
Subject: Re: Mail/news software
I'll now let people try to prove me wrong but
so far I have not seen a beast which comes close to the usability
Linux[1] is much more difficult (to learn anyway) yet much more powerful than,
say, windows. The Windows philosophy is: don't think, everything should be
easy. With linux, you must think. The windows philosophy seems to rub off
onto the rest of one's life (or maybe it's the other way around). Some
I feel compelled to respond...
On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 10:15:37PM -0500, Pat Mahoney wrote:
Linux[1] is much more difficult (to learn anyway) yet much more
powerful than, say, windows. The Windows philosophy is: don't think,
everything should be easy. With linux, you must think. The windows
Graeme Mathieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: Re[2]:
Emacs
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[ snipped ... ]
Simply stated, anything which requires Emacs to run
is instantly lower than something that requires Windows to run because
at
least it /IS/ an OS and not an editor
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Monday, May 01, 2000, 11:59:24 AM, Richard wrote:
Emacs is far more useful than that... It's still the best
mailer/newsreader/text based office program in existence.
That is highly debated, esp. for people who prefer not to have
huge
I've had
Hi,
Richard Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Graeme Mathieson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: Re[2]:
Emacs
Has anybody ever tried to graft emacs directly on top of oskit?
_Then_ you would have your operating system. :)
It would be a great OS period. Perfect for laptops,
Pat Mahoney wrote:
Linux[1] is much more difficult (to learn anyway) yet much more powerful than,
say, windows. The Windows philosophy is: don't think, everything should be
easy. With linux, you must think. The windows philosophy seems to rub off
onto the rest of one's life (or maybe it's the
Monday, May 01, 2000, 10:55:47 PM, Richard wrote:
I've had several debates featuring this very subject.
Some very long and drawn out and heated.
Then why keep bringing it up? I just find it amusing that the selling
point of a unix-like system is that it is modular and flexible so the first
On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 10:19:00AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
Monday, May 01, 2000, 10:55:47 PM, Richard wrote:
I've had several debates featuring this very subject.
Some very long and drawn out and heated.
Then why keep bringing it up? I just find it amusing that the selling
point of
May I suggest that only people like myself, who have faced this dilemma
in extremis, be allowed to add to this thread.
Having used and valued both Vi and Emacs, I truly had my 'Faith' put to
the test, when I had to chose between them while installing Debian on a
box with only 814Mb HDD space.
It
that combination before. -- from The Cuckoo's Egg
-Original Message-
From: Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Sunday, April 30, 2000 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Mail/news software
On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 02:13:19PM +0100, Phillip
On 30-Apr-00 Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Phillip Deackes wrote:
I disagree and am continually posting info about an excellent email app
called Ishmail. It was a commercial offerring but the source code has
now been released. It is available on www.ishmail.com
I looked at
On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:35:31 -0400, Rob Lilley wrote:
Different Strokes for different folks.
Emacs - Show a newbie that and you will see the dust as he turns
and runs back to the Windows camp smile. Emacs and Linux/Unix
for that matter is not for everybody - its there because of and
for the
Kovacs Istvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
(snip)
Emacs, vi, development tools are fine for developers (I also decided
to
learn Emacs and vi -- not at the wizard level, but to be able to use
them when needed), and it's reasonable not to expect the masses to use
them, but it's not the same case
Monday, May 01, 2000, 11:59:24 AM, Richard wrote:
Emacs is far more useful than that... It's still the best
mailer/newsreader/text based office program in existence.
That is highly debated, esp. for people who prefer not to have huge
bloated pigs in memory, don't want to learn a speech
Hi,
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[ snipped ... ]
Simply stated, anything which requires Emacs to run
is instantly lower than something that requires Windows to run because at
least it /IS/ an OS and not an editor that is a wannabe script interpreter
and OS rolled into one.
Has
Christophe == Christophe TROESTLER [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Christophe On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, Kovacs Istvan
Christophe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What mail and news software do you recommend? The ideal
software would be able to handle both mail and news in an
integrated
I've looked at most of what is available and the closest thing to
Yarn is the Tin news reader, they're almost identical. For email the
best thing I've found is Mutt. Mutt can be configured with what I
call 'tin style cursor keys' so I can go back and forth between
readers without getting
On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 05:05:38PM +0200, Kovacs Istvan wrote:
What mail and news software do you recommend?
Wel.
The ideal software would be able to handle both mail and news in an
integrated manner, place incoming and outgoing messages into folders
automatically using header
On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, Kovacs Istvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What mail and news software do you recommend? The ideal software
would be able to handle both mail and news in an integrated manner,
place incoming and outgoing messages into folders automatically
using header info,
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Given your description and the fact that you sent with PMMail/2 I
can say,
with authority, nothing. There is not a thing out there that will
suit what
you describe nor what you're currently using, at least when it comes
to mail.
News apps on the
Christophe TROESTLER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mew http://www.mew.org/ has all that (plus much more, particularly
important for me is the ablility to manage several identities with
associated headers, signature,...).
I just went to the homepage and was welcomed with:
In short, Mew is a
On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Phillip Deackes wrote:
I disagree and am continually posting info about an excellent email app
called Ishmail. It was a commercial offerring but the source code has
now been released. It is available on www.ishmail.com
I looked at this a while back (and debianized it in
On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 02:13:19PM +0100, Phillip Deackes wrote:
I am very sorry if I offend, but I find emacs/xemacs about the most
off-putting thing in Linux. Show a newbie that and you will see the dust
as he turns and runs back to the Windows camp.
That is not always the case. I tried out
Kofa writes:
What mail and news software do you recommend?
Gnus has all the features you list.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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