Re: md does a monthly resync?? (was Re: Questions about RAID 6)

2010-05-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On 05/03/2010 08:04 PM, Sam Leon wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/02/2010 03:24 PM, Alexander Samad wrote: [snip] My system used to become close to unusable on the 1st sunday of the month when mdadm did it resync, That sounds... wrong, on a jillion levels. I would rather the array fail on

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-05-02 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Disclaimer: I'm partial to XFS Tim Clewlow put forth on 5/1/2010 2:44 AM: My reticence to use ext4 / xfs has been due to long cache before write times being claimed as dangerous in the event of kernel lockup / power outage. This is a problem with the Linux buffer cache implementation, not

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-05-02 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 30 April 2010 19:10:52 Mark Allums wrote: or even btrfs for the data directories. While I am beginning experimenting with btrfs, I wouldn't yet use it for data you care about. /boot, not until/if grub2 gets support for it. Even then, boot is generally small and not often used, so

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-05-02 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 02 May 2010 06:00:38 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Good hardware RAID cards are really nice and give you some features you can't really get with md raid such as true just yank the drive tray out hot swap capability. I've not tried it, but I've read that md raid doesn't like it when you just

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-05-02 Thread Alexander Samad
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote: On Sunday 02 May 2010 06:00:38 Stan Hoeppner wrote: [snip] Speeds on my md-RAID devices were comparable to speeds with my Areca HW RAID controller (16-port, PCI-X/SATA, battery powered 128MB cache).  Number of

md does a monthly resync?? (was Re: Questions about RAID 6)

2010-05-02 Thread Ron Johnson
On 05/02/2010 03:24 PM, Alexander Samad wrote: [snip] My system used to become close to unusable on the 1st sunday of the month when mdadm did it resync, That sounds... wrong, on a jillion levels. -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: md does a monthly resync?? (was Re: Questions about RAID 6)

2010-05-02 Thread Alex Samad
On Sun, 2010-05-02 at 16:00 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/02/2010 03:24 PM, Alexander Samad wrote: [snip] My system used to become close to unusable on the 1st sunday of the month when mdadm did it resync, That sounds... wrong, on a jillion levels. depends a...@max:~$ dpkg -S

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-05-02 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun May 2 2010 13:24:30 Alexander Samad wrote: My system used to become close to unusable on the 1st sunday of the month when mdadm did it resync, I had to write my own script so it did not do mulitple at the same time, turn off the hung process timer and set cpufreq to performance. A long

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-05-02 Thread Alex Samad
On Sun, 2010-05-02 at 19:19 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: On Sun May 2 2010 13:24:30 Alexander Samad wrote: My system used to become close to unusable on the 1st sunday of the month when mdadm did it resync, I had to write my own script so it did not do mulitple at the same time, turn off the

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-05-01 Thread Tim Clewlow
On 4/30/2010 6:39 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/26/2010 09:29 AM, Tim Clewlow wrote: Hi there, I'm getting ready to build a RAID 6 with 4 x 2TB drives to start, Since two of the drives (yes, I know the parity is striped across all the drives, but two drives is still the effect) are used

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 04/26/2010 09:29 AM, Tim Clewlow wrote: Hi there, I'm getting ready to build a RAID 6 with 4 x 2TB drives to start, Since two of the drives (yes, I know the parity is striped across all the drives, but two drives is still the effect) are used by striping, RAID 6 with 4 drives doesn't

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-30 Thread Mark Allums
On 4/30/2010 6:39 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/26/2010 09:29 AM, Tim Clewlow wrote: Hi there, I'm getting ready to build a RAID 6 with 4 x 2TB drives to start, Since two of the drives (yes, I know the parity is striped across all the drives, but two drives is still the effect) are used by

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 04/30/2010 07:10 PM, Mark Allums wrote: [snip] Someone pointed out what I have come to regard as the best solution, and that is to make /boot and / (root) and the usual suspects ext3 for safety, and use ext4 or XFS or even btrfs for the data directories. That's what I do. / /home are

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-29 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 20:51:18 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Mike Bird put forth on 4/28/2010 5:48 PM: On Wed April 28 2010 15:10:32 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Given the way most database engines do locking, you'll get zero additional seek benefit on reads, and you'll take a 4x hit on writes. I

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-29 Thread Dan Ritter
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 04:44:32PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Monday 26 April 2010 09:29:28 Tim Clewlow wrote: I'm getting ready to build a RAID 6 with 4 x 2TB drives to start, but the intention is to add more drives as storage requirements increase. Since you seem fine with

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-28 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Mike Bird put forth on 4/26/2010 3:04 PM: On Mon April 26 2010 12:29:43 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Mark Allums put forth on 4/26/2010 12:51 PM: Put four drives in a RAID 1, you can suffer a loss of three drives. And you'll suffer pretty abysmal write performance as well. Write performance of

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-28 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Mark Allums put forth on 4/27/2010 10:31 PM: For DIY, always pair those drives. Consider RAID 10, RAID 50, RAID 60, etc. Alas, that doubles the number of drives, and intensely decreases the MTBF, which is the whole outcome you want to avoid. This is my preferred mdadm 4 drive setup for a

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-28 Thread Mark Allums
Stan, We are on the same wavelength, I do the same thing myself. (Except that I go ahead and mirror swap.) I love RAID 10. MAA On 4/28/2010 5:18 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Mark Allums put forth on 4/27/2010 10:31 PM: For DIY, always pair those drives. Consider RAID 10, RAID 50, RAID 60,

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-28 Thread Mike Bird
On Wed April 28 2010 01:44:37 Stan Hoeppner wrote: On a sufficiently fast system that is not loaded, the user will likely see no performance degradation, especially given Linux' buffered I/O architecture. However, on a loaded system, such as a transactional database server or busy ftp upload

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-28 Thread Bob McGowan
On 04/26/2010 04:33 PM, Mike Bird wrote: On Mon April 26 2010 14:44:32 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: the chance of a double failure in a 5 (or less) drive array is minuscule. A flaky controller knocking one drive out of an array and then breaking another before you're rebuilt can really ruin

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-28 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Mike Bird put forth on 4/28/2010 1:48 PM: On Wed April 28 2010 01:44:37 Stan Hoeppner wrote: On a sufficiently fast system that is not loaded, the user will likely see no performance degradation, especially given Linux' buffered I/O architecture. However, on a loaded system, such as a

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-28 Thread Mike Bird
On Wed April 28 2010 15:10:32 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Mike Bird put forth on 4/28/2010 1:48 PM: I've designed commercial database managers and OLTP systems. Are you saying you've put production OLTP databases on N-way software RAID 1 sets? No. I've used N-way RAID-1 for general servers -

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-28 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Mike Bird put forth on 4/28/2010 5:48 PM: On Wed April 28 2010 15:10:32 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Mike Bird put forth on 4/28/2010 1:48 PM: I've designed commercial database managers and OLTP systems. Are you saying you've put production OLTP databases on N-way software RAID 1 sets? No. I've

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-28 Thread Mike Bird
On Wed April 28 2010 18:51:18 Stan Hoeppner wrote: You seem to posses knowledge of these things that is 180 degrees opposite of fact. OLTP, or online transaction processing, is typified by retail or web point of sale transactions or call logging by telcos. OLTP databases are typically much

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-27 Thread Alexander Samad
Hi I recently (last week), migrated from 10 x 1Tb to adaptec 51645 and 5 x 2T drives. my experience, I can't get frub2 and the adaptec to work, so I am booting from a SSD I had. I carved up the 5x2T into 32G (mirror 1e - mirror stripe + parity) - too boot from and mirrored against my ssd. the

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-27 Thread Mark Allums
On 4/26/2010 1:37 PM, Mike Bird wrote: On Mon April 26 2010 10:51:38 Mark Allums wrote: RAID 6 (and 5) perform well when less than approximately 1/3 full. After that, even reads suffer. Mark, I've been using various kinds of RAID for many many years and was not aware of that. Do you have a

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-27 Thread Mark Allums
On 4/26/2010 2:29 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Mark Allums put forth on 4/26/2010 12:51 PM: Put four drives in a RAID 1, you can suffer a loss of three drives. And you'll suffer pretty abysmal write performance as well. Also keep in mind that some software RAID implementations allow more than

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-27 Thread Mark Allums
On 4/26/2010 11:11 PM, Tim Clewlow wrote: I don't know what your requirements / levels of paranoia are, but RAID 5 is probably better than RAID 6 until you are up to 6 or 7 drives; the chance of a double failure in a 5 (or less) drive array is minuscule. . I currently have 3 TB of data with

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-27 Thread Mark Allums
On 4/27/2010 9:56 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 4/26/2010 1:37 PM, Mike Bird wrote: On Mon April 26 2010 10:51:38 Mark Allums wrote: RAID 6 (and 5) perform well when less than approximately 1/3 full. After that, even reads suffer. Mark, I've been using various kinds of RAID for many many years

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-26 Thread Tim Clewlow
Ok, I found the answer to my second question - it fails the entire disk. So the first question remains. Does ext3 (and relevent utilities, particularly resize2fs and e2fsck) on 32 bit i386 arch support 16TB volumes? Regards, Tim. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-26 Thread Mark Allums
On 4/26/2010 9:29 AM, Tim Clewlow wrote: Hi there, I'm getting ready to build a RAID 6 with 4 x 2TB drives to start, but the intention is to add more drives as storage requirements increase. My research/googling suggests ext3 supports 16TB volumes if block size is 4096 bytes, but some sites

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-26 Thread Mark Allums
On 4/26/2010 10:28 AM, Tim Clewlow wrote: Ok, I found the answer to my second question - it fails the entire disk. So the first question remains. I just figured that out---and I see you have too. The difference between what we would like it to do, and what it actually does can be

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-26 Thread Tim Clewlow
I'm afraid that opinions of RAID vary widely on this list (no surprise) but you may be interested to note that we agree (a consensus) that software-RAID 6 is an unfortunate choice. . Is this for performance reasons or potential data loss. I can live with slow writes, reads should not be all

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-26 Thread Mark Allums
On 4/26/2010 11:57 AM, Tim Clewlow wrote: I'm afraid that opinions of RAID vary widely on this list (no surprise) but you may be interested to note that we agree (a consensus) that software-RAID 6 is an unfortunate choice. . Is this for performance reasons or potential data loss. I can live

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-26 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon April 26 2010 10:51:38 Mark Allums wrote: RAID 6 (and 5) perform well when less than approximately 1/3 full. After that, even reads suffer. Mark, I've been using various kinds of RAID for many many years and was not aware of that. Do you have a link to an explanation? Thanks, --Mike

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-26 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Mark Allums put forth on 4/26/2010 12:51 PM: Put four drives in a RAID 1, you can suffer a loss of three drives. And you'll suffer pretty abysmal write performance as well. Also keep in mind that some software RAID implementations allow more than two drives in RAID 1, most often called a

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-26 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon April 26 2010 12:29:43 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Mark Allums put forth on 4/26/2010 12:51 PM: Put four drives in a RAID 1, you can suffer a loss of three drives. And you'll suffer pretty abysmal write performance as well. Write performance of RAID-1 is approximately as good as a simple

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-26 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 26 April 2010 09:29:28 Tim Clewlow wrote: I'm getting ready to build a RAID 6 with 4 x 2TB drives to start, but the intention is to add more drives as storage requirements increase. Since you seem fine with RAID 6, I'll assume you are also fine with RAID 5. I don't know what your

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-26 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon April 26 2010 14:44:32 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: the chance of a double failure in a 5 (or less) drive array is minuscule. A flaky controller knocking one drive out of an array and then breaking another before you're rebuilt can really ruin your day. Rebuild is generally the period

Re: Questions about RAID 6

2010-04-26 Thread Tim Clewlow
I don't know what your requirements / levels of paranoia are, but RAID 5 is probably better than RAID 6 until you are up to 6 or 7 drives; the chance of a double failure in a 5 (or less) drive array is minuscule. . I currently have 3 TB of data with another 1TB on its way fairly soon, so 4

Re: Questions regarding hardware for a Free Software (especially Debian)

2009-12-16 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:17:59 +0100 Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote: ... Be sure to avoid Nvidia graphics cards then. The best bet is probably to use Intel graphics, *except* GMA500¹. Thanks to KMS², switching from X to a virtual console and back is as fast as switching workspaces, and

Re: Questions regarding hardware for a Free Software (especially Debian)

2009-12-15 Thread John Allen
On 13/12/09 21:37, Rogério Brito wrote: Hi, All. I would like to purchase a new system to replace my current Desktop. Unfortunately, it seems that getting some new hardware is not as easy, due to a multitude of unavailable drivers for Free Operating systems or differences regarding the role of

Re: Questions regarding hardware for a Free Software (especially Debian)

2009-12-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:37:14 -0200, Rogério Brito wrote: (...) * And, finally, but very important, something that is fully supported by Free Software only. I want to get a system where I can run Debian with Linux as a kernel and, it would be fantastically nice if it could, work acceptably

Re: Questions regarding hardware for a Free Software (especially Debian)

2009-12-14 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-12-13 22:37 +0100, Rogério Brito wrote: I would like to purchase a new system to replace my current Desktop. Unfortunately, it seems that getting some new hardware is not as easy, due to a multitude of unavailable drivers for Free Operating systems or differences regarding the role

Re: Questions sur dnsmasq

2009-11-24 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA
Bonjour, Le mardi 24 novembre 2009, steve a écrit... Voici /etc/dnsmaq.conf : domain-needed bogus-priv interface=ath0 interface=ath1 interface=eth0 listen-address=127.0.0.1 no-dhcp-interface=eth1 expand-hosts domain=maison.mrs cache-size=550 (eth1 est l'interface qui donne

Re: Questions sur dnsmasq

2009-11-24 Thread Frédéric Massot
steve a écrit : Bonjour, Je suis en train d'essayer de configurer dnsmaq sur ma passerelle. Voici /etc/dnsmaq.conf : domain-needed bogus-priv interface=ath0 interface=ath1 interface=eth0 listen-address=127.0.0.1 no-dhcp-interface=eth1 expand-hosts domain=maison.mrs

[RESOLU] Re: Questions sur dnsmasq

2009-11-24 Thread steve
Le 24-11-2009, à 11:01:40 +0100, Frédéric Massot (frede...@juliana-multimedia.com) a écrit : steve a écrit : Bonjour, Je suis en train d'essayer de configurer dnsmaq sur ma passerelle. Voici /etc/dnsmaq.conf : domain-needed bogus-priv interface=ath0 interface=ath1

Re: Questions About Upgrading to dependency based boot

2009-10-02 Thread joe
Mark Phillips wrote: I am running Debian testing on my computer. I am in the process of doing an apt-get update/apt-get dist-upgrade. I got this error message : info: Checking if it is safe to convert to dependency based boot. error: Unable to migrate to dependency based boot sequencing.

Re: Questions About Upgrading to dependency based boot

2009-10-02 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας
Mark Phillips wrote: I am running Debian testing on my computer. I am in the process of doing an apt-get update/apt-get dist-upgrade. I got this error message : info: Checking if it is safe to convert to dependency based boot. error: Unable to migrate to dependency based boot

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-27 Thread S. Fishpaste
On Sun, 24 May 2009 10:43:36 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: Tony Baldwin wrote: You would think, icedove being the brainchild of the debian movement, that it would include this option for users on the debian lists. Não faz sentido... Even if Debian made a

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,21.May.09, 14:43:03, Paul Scott wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed,20.May.09, 21:09:02, Muzer wrote: Damn, I did it again, sending it to one person rather than everyone! I really need to get used to this mailing list lark. There's a reply-to-list extension for

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,21.May.09, 13:46:19, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 01:19:24PM -0700, Ken Teague wrote: Sthu Deus wrote: Good day. I have noticed that for some users in /etc/passwd the shell environment is set as bash and for some as sh. This has led me to the following

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-24 Thread Tony Baldwin
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Thu,21.May.09, 14:43:03, Paul Scott wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed,20.May.09, 21:09:02, Muzer wrote: Damn, I did it again, sending it to one person rather than everyone! I really need to get used to this mailing list lark. There's a reply-to-list

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-24 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 13:18 -0700, Todd A. Jacobs wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 01:53:08AM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: I have noticed that for some users in /etc/passwd the shell environment is set as bash and for some as sh. This has led me to the following questions: . Why is it so,

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-24 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 14:37 +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 13:18 -0700, Todd A. Jacobs wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 01:53:08AM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: I have noticed that for some users in /etc/passwd the shell environment is set as bash and for some as sh. This

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,24.May.09, 08:04:09, Tony Baldwin wrote: Well, one can always use some other client. Claws-mail is a very good one if you don't like/want mutt. Yeah, I've noted this behavior (using icedove). Why don't replies go to the list? Because you must use reply-to-list ;) Are you saying

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,24.May.09, 14:43:56, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: What a heck is that auto-reply thing (below)? [snip] Looks like a challenge-response to me. Quite bad, but on the other hand you did Cc him ;) Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-24 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Tony Baldwin wrote: Yeah, I've noted this behavior (using icedove). Why don't replies go to the list? Are you saying that they will if I use mutt? Not automatically. But mutt includes a command 'reply to list' (shift+L, I think) that eases replying to the list. Icedove lacks such a

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-24 Thread Tony Baldwin
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun,24.May.09, 08:04:09, Tony Baldwin wrote: Well, one can always use some other client. Claws-mail is a very good one if you don't like/want mutt. Yeah, I've noted this behavior (using icedove). Why don't replies go to the list? Because you must use reply-to-list

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-24 Thread Tony Baldwin
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: Tony Baldwin wrote: Yeah, I've noted this behavior (using icedove). Why don't replies go to the list? Are you saying that they will if I use mutt? Not automatically. But mutt includes a command 'reply to list' (shift+L, I think) that eases replying to the list.

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-24 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Tony Baldwin wrote: You would think, icedove being the brainchild of the debian movement, that it would include this option for users on the debian lists. Não faz sentido... Even if Debian made a patch, it should be sent upstream to be added to the main trunk. It's quite annoying that one

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,24.May.09, 09:38:01, Tony Baldwin wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun,24.May.09, 08:04:09, Tony Baldwin wrote: Well, one can always use some other client. Claws-mail is a very good one if you don't like/want mutt. Yeah, I've noted this behavior (using icedove). Why don't replies go

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-21 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 01:19:24PM -0700, Ken Teague wrote: Sthu Deus wrote: Good day. I have noticed that for some users in /etc/passwd the shell environment is set as bash and for some as sh. This has led me to the following questions: . Why is it so, meaning what is the meaning of it?

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-21 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 01:53:08AM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: I have noticed that for some users in /etc/passwd the shell environment is set as bash and for some as sh. This has led me to the following questions: . Why is it so, meaning what is the meaning of it? System accounts and system

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-21 Thread Paul Scott
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed,20.May.09, 21:09:02, Muzer wrote: Damn, I did it again, sending it to one person rather than everyone! I really need to get used to this mailing list lark. There's a reply-to-list extension for Thunderbird. Not counting that the current version of

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-20 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,21.May.09, 01:53:08, Sthu Deus wrote: Good day. I have noticed that for some users in /etc/passwd the shell environment is set as bash and for some as sh. This has led me to the following questions: . Why is it so, meaning what is the meaning of it? bash is better suited for

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-20 Thread Muzer
Sthu Deus wrote: Good day. I have noticed that for some users in /etc/passwd the shell environment is set as bash and for some as sh. This has led me to the following questions: . Why is it so, meaning what is the meaning of it? . Do I give more insecure environment to a user setting for him

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-20 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,20.May.09, 21:09:02, Muzer wrote: Damn, I did it again, sending it to one person rather than everyone! I really need to get used to this mailing list lark. There's a reply-to-list extension for Thunderbird. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-20 Thread Ken Teague
Sthu Deus wrote: Good day. I have noticed that for some users in /etc/passwd the shell environment is set as bash and for some as sh. This has led me to the following questions: . Why is it so, meaning what is the meaning of it? . Do I give more insecure environment to a user setting for him

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-20 Thread Muzer
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed,20.May.09, 21:09:02, Muzer wrote: Damn, I did it again, sending it to one person rather than everyone! I really need to get used to this mailing list lark. There's a reply-to-list extension for Thunderbird. Regards, Andrei Thanks, I'll look that

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-20 Thread John Hasler
Ken Teague writes: In Debian, absolutely nothing since it's a symbolic link to bash... man bash and read the INVOCATION section. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: questions about CUPS

2009-03-24 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 12:27:57 +0200, Angelin Lalev wrote: [...] Is it possible to use native PCL drivers for my printer and bypass the long conversion - text and images-PostscriptCUPSPostscript-PCL5/6 (and solve the naming problem besides)? CUPS has a special printer model called

Re: questions about lvm2

2009-01-23 Thread Mike Castle
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: If I have lots of existing data in JBODs, would I create a PV and VG on the new drive, mv all the data from the existing drives to the new VG, then add my existing drives (while also enlarging the fs) to the one-drive

Re: questions about lvm2

2009-01-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/23/2009 11:28 AM, Mike Castle wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: If I have lots of existing data in JBODs, would I create a PV and VG on the new drive, mv all the data from the existing drives to the new VG, then add my existing drives (while

Re: questions about lvm2

2009-01-22 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:24:45AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/21/2009 11:30 PM, Matthew Moore wrote: On Wednesday 21 January 2009 09:13:07 pm Ron Johnson wrote: That is exactly what I would do. Everyone warns about how cataclysmic things will happen because your new uber-device has the

Re: questions about lvm2

2009-01-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/22/2009 11:20 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:24:45AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/21/2009 11:30 PM, Matthew Moore wrote: On Wednesday 21 January 2009 09:13:07 pm Ron Johnson wrote: That is exactly what I would do. Everyone warns about how cataclysmic things

Re: questions about lvm2 -- Got it working!!

2009-01-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/21/2009 11:30 PM, Matthew Moore wrote: On Wednesday 21 January 2009 09:13:07 pm Ron Johnson wrote: If I have lots of existing data in JBODs, would I create a PV and VG on the new drive, mv all the data from the existing drives to the new VG, then add my existing drives (while also

Re: questions about lvm2

2009-01-21 Thread Matthew Moore
On Wednesday 21 January 2009 08:43:02 pm Ron Johnson wrote: 1. Since sdX device names are non-deterministic, can I use it with devices specified as UUIDs? Or does lvm handle that for me on boot? lvm stores volume identifiers in a header at the start of the physical volumes, so the device

Re: questions about lvm2

2009-01-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/21/2009 09:59 PM, Matthew Moore wrote: On Wednesday 21 January 2009 08:43:02 pm Ron Johnson wrote: 1. Since sdX device names are non-deterministic, can I use it with devices specified as UUIDs? Or does lvm handle that for me on boot? lvm stores volume identifiers in a header at the

Re: questions about lvm2

2009-01-21 Thread Matthew Moore
On Wednesday 21 January 2009 09:13:07 pm Ron Johnson wrote: If I have lots of existing data in JBODs, would I create a PV and VG on the new drive, mv all the data from the existing drives to the new VG, then add my existing drives (while also enlarging the fs) to the one-drive VG, thus making

Re: questions about lvm2

2009-01-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 01/21/2009 11:30 PM, Matthew Moore wrote: On Wednesday 21 January 2009 09:13:07 pm Ron Johnson wrote: If I have lots of existing data in JBODs, would I create a PV and VG on the new drive, mv all the data from the existing drives to the new VG, then add my existing drives (while also

Re: Questions en vrac

2008-10-08 Thread Pierre Allken-Bernard
steve a écrit : Merci d'avance à tous pour m'aider à convaincre définitivement mon pote de l'avantage à passer sous GNU/Linux (il m'a fait peur hier, il veut s'acheter un i-phone et il m'a dit que par conséquent (???) il voulait s'acheter un mac, pour être compatible ...) aïe aie..) Un Mac

Re: Questions about d-i disk encryption

2008-04-27 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
On 26/04/2008, Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the 'Partition settings' screen, toggle 'Erase data' from yes to no. In practice I very much doubt that this would ever reduce your security. It's been a while since I've looked at d-i, and maybe things have changed, but is there an option to

Re: Questions about d-i disk encryption

2008-04-27 Thread Jon
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 09:00:52AM -0500, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: On 26/04/2008, Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the 'Partition settings' screen, toggle 'Erase data' from yes to no. In practice I very much doubt that this would ever reduce your security. It's been a while since

Re: Questions about d-i disk encryption

2008-04-26 Thread Jon
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 06:20:08PM +0200, Hans Martin wrote: 2. Because I'm experimenting with the installation, I would like to skip one stop of the prepartion of the encryption, that takes about two hours (does in write /dev/random to /dev/hdaX?). How can I skip this step easily?

Re: Questions about d-i disk encryption

2008-04-25 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
On 25/04/2008, Hans Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. I like to have half of my disk crypted (with /, /usr/, /home, all in one crypted partition), and the other half without encryption e.g. as /usr/local). [snip] 2. Because I'm experimenting with the installation, I would like to

Re: Questions about d-i disk encryption

2008-04-25 Thread Hans Martin
Jordi wrote: On 25/04/2008, Hans Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. I like to have half of my disk crypted (with /, /usr/, /home, all in one crypted partition), and the other half without encryption e.g. as /usr/local). [snip] ... Neither of those configuration options are yet

Re: questions about log messages

2008-01-16 Thread Александър Л . Димитров
Quoth Ross Boylan: Second, I also keep seeing stuff like this: Jan 15 09:23:00 cotton kernel: wlan0: CTS protection disabled (BSSID=00:45:4d:80:b6:24) Jan 15 09:23:02 cotton kernel: wlan0: CTS protection enabled (BSSID=00:45:4d:80:b6:24) I think CTS protection is clear to send protection,

Re: questions sur iptables

2008-01-15 Thread Pascal Hambourg
mpg a écrit : En fait, fail2ban crée déjà une chaîne utilisateur. Par contre, dans mon script init.d, il faudra que je fasse attention à la position relative de mon script et de celui de fail2ban. Au pire je peux désactiver le script fail2ban pour faire les choses tranquillement à ma manière.

Re: questions sur iptables

2008-01-14 Thread Marc Blanc
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:14:20 +0100 mpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Je suis en train d'écrire des règles de filtrage avec iptables pour mes machines, et je me pose quelques questions. http://www.linux-france.org/prj/inetdoc/guides/iptables-tutorial/ -- SGBDRO Open Source PostgreSQL, Filtrage IP

Re: questions sur iptables

2008-01-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Salut, mpg (il est partout !) a écrit : 1. Quelle est sous Debian « la » bonne manière de charger ses règles iptables automatiquement : script dans init.d, dans if-pre-up.d, ailleurs ? En complément des autres réponses, il y a aussi /etc/ppp/ip-{up,down}.d/ pour les interfaces PPP créées

Re: questions sur iptables

2008-01-14 Thread mpg
Salut, Le (on) lundi 14 janvier 2008 13:51, Pascal Hambourg a écrit (wrote) : mpg (il est partout !) a écrit : (toi aussi !) (note que je ne m'en plains pas) 1. Quelle est sous Debian « la » bonne manière de charger ses règles iptables automatiquement : script dans init.d, dans if-pre-up.d,

Re: questions sur iptables

2008-01-14 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA
Bonjour, Le mardi 15 janvier 2008, mpg a écrit... Oki. J'ai d'ailleurs vu dans le securing-how-to qu'il y a d'autres paramètres à régler en plus des tables netfilter, comme des 0 et des 1 à mettre dans des fichiers sous /proc/sys/net/ipv4 (et sans doute ipv6). C'est documenté où ce

Re: questions sur iptables

2008-01-13 Thread Franck Joncourt
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:14:20 +0100, mpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonjour, Bonsoir, Je suis en train d'écrire des règles de filtrage avec iptables pour mes machines, et je me pose quelques questions. 1. Quelle est sous Debian « la » bonne manière de charger ses règles iptables

Re: questions sur iptables

2008-01-13 Thread Geoffroy Youri
mpg a écrit : Bonjour, Bonjour 1. Quelle est sous Debian « la » bonne manière de charger ses règles iptables automatiquement : script dans init.d, dans if-pre-up.d, ailleurs ? « bonne manière ™» je ne sais pas, mais l'une d'elle proposée dans le manuel de sécurisation de Debian me convient

Re: Questions ?

2008-01-05 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 01:15:55PM +0100, Quentin Charrex wrote: Bonjour monsieur, je m'appelle Quentin et j'aimerai avoir des réponses a mes questions s'y cela est possible. Alors voila mes questions : Mieux vaut mettre un sujet plus explicite que 'question' à tes courriers. Si on poste

Re: Questions ?

2008-01-05 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA
Bonjour, Le samedi 05 janvier 2008, Quentin Charrex a écrit... Bonjour monsieur, je m'appelle Quentin et j'aimerai avoir des réponses a mes questions s'y cela est possible. Alors voila mes questions : Vim l'éditeur, je l'ai installé correctement mais il n'y a pas les numéros de

Re: Questions ?

2008-01-05 Thread Pierre Meurisse
Bonjour, On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 01:15:55PM +0100, Quentin Charrex wrote: Bonjour monsieur, je m'appelle Quentin et j'aimerai avoir des réponses a mes questions s'y cela est possible. Alors voila mes questions : Vim l'éditeur, je l'ai installé correctement mais il n'y a pas les numéros

Re: questions about shishi problem while using apache with etch

2007-12-21 Thread Stefan Fritsch
In trying to create some new web stuff, apache seems to be complaining about shishi (which I see from research is the gnu kerberos stuff). Why is it doing this? I know I could just create the directory, but I want to understand WHAT it is trying to do and WHY. Port 12345 is one of my

Re: questions on apt-pinning

2007-09-20 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 14:20:27 +0100, Bob wrote: Hi, I just tried Lenny and MergeFB is busted for that combination of xserver-xorg-core and xserver-xorg-video-ati, for the moment the fix is install xserver-xorg-video-ati from experimental, so I have to delve in the world of apt-pinning.

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