Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 12:44:25PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 01:13:08AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > I know of a couple of Debian developers who are blind, or close to it. > > I've met one of them. Those that I know of all make tremendously useful > > contributions, mor

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-22 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 01:13:08AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > I know of a couple of Debian developers who are blind, or close to it. > I've met one of them. Those that I know of all make tremendously useful > contributions, more than many sighted dev

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-22 Thread Alfredo Valles
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 8:13 pm, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:25:03PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I see it just fine, but then I am sighted. I don't know how blind > > Debians access the list, but they do. I suppose they have something > > that does text to voice, or text

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-22 Thread Paul E Condon
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:04:14PM -0400, ScruLoose wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:13:11PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:32:57PM -0700, Steve C. Lamb wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:17:42PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > > Why would anybody read an inhe

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:25:03PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > I see it just fine, but then I am sighted. I don't know how blind > Debians access the list, but they do. I suppose they have something > that does text to voice, or text to braille. Whatever it is, I doubt > that it can handle figlet

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread ScruLoose
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:13:11PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:32:57PM -0700, Steve C. Lamb wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:17:42PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > Why would anybody read an inheirently monospace medium in anything but > > > a monospaced font? > >

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:32:57PM -0700, Steve C. Lamb wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:17:42PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Why would anybody read an inheirently monospace medium in anything but > > a monospaced font? > > The web is a monos

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread Steve C. Lamb
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:17:42PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > Why would anybody read an inheirently monospace medium in anything but > a monospaced font? The web is a monospaced medium? Since when? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP K

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread Richard Kimber
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:17:42 -0700 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > try it without a monospace font. > > Why would anybody read an inheirently monospace medium in anything but > a monospaced font? > > - -- > .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : :' : > `. `'` proud

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:50:16PM -0500, Ray wrote: > try it without a monospace font. Why would anybody read an inheirently monospace medium in anything but a monospaced font? - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'`

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread Paul E Condon
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:08:41PM -0500, DePriest, Jason R. wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Paul Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:12 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: anti-spam idea for this list >

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread Ray
On Tuesday 21 October 2003 12:08, DePriest, Jason R. wrote: > How about using ASCII art instead (a la figlet or somesuch)? > > $ figlet -w 72 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Makes perfect sense to a human eye, but should foil spam harvester > bots. try it without a monospace font. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread Tom
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:08:41PM -0500, DePriest, Jason R. wrote: > How about using ASCII art instead (a la figlet or somesuch)? it's machine parsable, defeats the purpose -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:08:41PM -0500, DePriest, Jason R. wrote: > How about using ASCII art instead (a la figlet or somesuch)? See also: Warlording. http://ursine.ca/jargon/html/W/warlording.html - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-21 Thread DePriest, Jason R.
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 11:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: anti-spam idea for this list > > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 03:17:48AM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > > I will

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 03:17:48AM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > I will give up my keyboard and text mode interface when they pry it > from my cold dead fingers... I'm with you, there. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'`

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread Pigeon
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:50:52AM -0400, Alfredo Valles wrote: > Would it be too difficult to use fuzzy images of the mail addresses instead of > the text of the addresses itself to prevent programs from massively > collecting address from the web archives of this list? I will give up my keyboa

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread DePriest, Jason R.
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 12:16 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > Your idea of "easier" does not reflect that of the open source > community, apparently. What does "open source" have to do with storing email addresses in archives in a format that is easily harvested by spam-bots? Does "open source" == "no p

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread Tom
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 01:41:38PM -0400, Mike Dresser wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Tom wrote: > > > For the blind, link to a CGI which generates the email as a WAV. > > And the blind and deaf? ... > > Mike > I'm stumped; they would *have* to have machine-encodable information. I can think of

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread Mike Dresser
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Tom wrote: > For the blind, link to a CGI which generates the email as a WAV. And the blind and deaf? ... Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread Tom
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 01:01:12PM -0400, Alfredo Valles wrote: > On Monday 20 October 2003 12:23 pm, John Hasler wrote: > > > Would it be too difficult to use fuzzy images of the mail addresses > > > instead of the text of the addresses itself to prevent programs from > > > massively collecting ad

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 01:01:12PM -0400, Alfredo Valles wrote: > At least yahoo care about making life easier to their users. Your idea of "easier" does not reflect that of the open source community, apparently. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread Alfredo Valles
On Monday 20 October 2003 12:23 pm, John Hasler wrote: > > Would it be too difficult to use fuzzy images of the mail addresses > > instead of the text of the addresses itself to prevent programs from > > massively collecting address from the web archives of this list? > > > > I think that this meth

Re: anti-spam idea for this list

2003-10-20 Thread John Hasler
Alfredo writes: > Would it be too difficult to use fuzzy images of the mail addresses > instead of the text of the addresses itself to prevent programs from > massively collecting address from the web archives of this list? > I think that this method works because yahoo mail use it to prevent > pr