On Sun, Aug 15 2010, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:53:41 -0400 (EDT), Manoj Srivastava wrote:
With the new versions of kernel-package in Squeeze, running
make-kpkg clean should almost never be required (if the upstream
Makefiles are not borked, as they rarely are). The new
On Jo, 12 aug 10, 11:10:16, Arthur Machlas wrote:
Isn't there a risk in granting user access to src, adm, and such if
ever your user account is compromised? My uninformed opinion is that
it's a question of relative risk; the 'risk' involved in building
kernels as root, versus the risk
Hey.
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
snippy
I don't think that this is a bug. I think you're trying to mix and match
two different ways of doing things. There are two basic ways of creating
an out-of-kernel-source-tree module from source: (1)
Hey,
Sorry for the double, but forgot something!
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
snippy
$ make-kpkg --append-to-version -custom5-686 --revision 2.6.32-18 \
--initrd --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image
Quick question, is there an
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 05:27:12 -0400 (EDT), Angus Hedger wrote:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
...
$ make-kpkg --append-to-version -custom5-686 --revision 2.6.32-18 \
--initrd --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image
...
Quick question, is there an advantage to
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 05:27:12 -0400 (EDT), Angus Hedger wrote:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
...
$ make-kpkg --append-to-version -custom5-686 --revision 2.6.32-18 \
--initrd --rootcmd
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 09:11:21 -0400 (EDT), Angus Hedger wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
If you copy your module directly into the source tree, then you need
to download a new kernel source tree and unpack it due to kernel
maintenance, you lose your modifications. By keeping the out-of-kernel-
On Sat, Aug 14 2010, Stephen Powell wrote:
Oops! I forgot to show the make-kpkg clean step after make
menuconfig. I'm not sure if this is still needed anymore, but it's
good practice. In real life, I did issue it; but when I composed the
e-mail, I forgot to document it.
With the
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:53:41 -0400 (EDT), Manoj Srivastava wrote:
With the new versions of kernel-package in Squeeze, running
make-kpkg clean should almost never be required (if the upstream
Makefiles are not borked, as they rarely are). The new make-kpkg
starts by removing and re-creating
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:12:02 -0400 (EDT), Angus Hedger wrote:
The two things that i use k-headers for myself are the nvidia blob,
and the virtual-box km's
The only issues I ran into when building headers via make-kpkg where as
follows,
Make sure you use the same -append-to-version
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:29:11 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote:
--
$ cd linux-source-2.6.32
$ cp /boot/config-2.6.32-5-686 .config
$ make menuconfig
$ make-kpkg --append-to-version -custom5-686 --revision 2.6.32-18 \
--initrd --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image
$ cd
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Alexander Samad a...@samad.com.au wrote:
Hi
Well its still doesn't work. I am trying to build the VB kernel
modules and well it fails.
I need to build the linux-kbuild-2.6.35, working with linux-source
just doesn't work ... (I don't want to build a new
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:25:50 -0400 (EDT), Bob Proulx wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
Still, I should have noticed that the /usr/src directory was owned
by user root and by group src. For some reason, I never made that
connection. That's a great tip, thanks. I will have to play around
with
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:55:40 -0400 (EDT), Sven Joachim wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
I do know about groups, but I don't necessarily know the intended
purpose of all of the pre-defined groups in a Linux system. Where
can I find documentation for that?
For Debian, there is some information
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 12:34:34 -0400 (EDT)
Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
...
says! I suppose the most secure method would be to create an id just
for kernel building which is a member of group src and its login
group, and that's it.
How about copying the source to an unprivileged
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:11:33 -0400 (EDT), Celejar wrote:
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 12:34:34 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote:
...
I suppose the most secure method would be to create an id just
for kernel building which is a member of group src and its login
group, and that's it.
How about
The latest version of my kernel building web page, revised yesterday
(http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm), recommends unpacking,
configuring, and compiling the kernel from its default location
as a non-root user which is a member of group src. It can be the
system administrator's
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:27:50 -0400 (EDT), Arthur Machlas wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
The latest version of my kernel building web page, revised yesterday
(http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm), recommends unpacking,
configuring, and compiling the kernel from its default location
as a
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:27:50 -0400 (EDT), Arthur Machlas wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
The latest version of my kernel building web page, revised yesterday
(http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm), recommends
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Angus Hedger demide...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:27:50 -0400 (EDT), Arthur Machlas wrote:
The only issues I ran into when building headers via make-kpkg where as
follows,
Hey!
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:27:50 -0400 (EDT), Arthur Machlas wrote:
The only issues I ran into when building headers via make-kpkg where as
follows,
Make sure you use the same -append-to-version -stuff-here line as
you do when building your kernel, or they wont match up and it wont
find
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Angus Hedger demide...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey!
I don't use the -j3 switch, and I don't think that -j3 switch works
like you think it does when using make-kpkg, at least, not if that's
meant to utilize multiple processors when building. I'm at work right
so this
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:33:12 -0400 (EDT), Bob Proulx wrote:
If it is your own machine then you should certainly be in the 'src'
group and then you would have access to /usr/src as your own normal
user self. And if you don't know about src then you probably don't
know about 'staff' and 'adm'
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:33:12 -0400 (EDT), Bob Proulx wrote:
Then log out. At login you will be set to those additional groups.
With those in place you can work as yourself in those areas. Safer
than using root since
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 12:10:16 -0400 (EDT), Arthur Machlas wrote:
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:33:12 -0400 (EDT), Bob Proulx wrote:
Then log out. At login you will be set to those additional groups.
With those in place you can work as yourself in those areas. Safer
than using root since as yourself
On 2010-08-12 18:10 +0200, Arthur Machlas wrote:
Isn't there a risk in granting user access to src, adm, and such if
ever your user account is compromised?
This depends on how the computer is used, I suppose. On personal
desktops/laptops, giving intruders access to these groups is the least
Stephen Powell wrote:
I do know about groups, but I don't necessarily know the intended
purpose of all of the pre-defined groups in a Linux system. Where
can I find documentation for that?
Unfortunately I have no idea. I don't even know if they are all
documented someplace. And distro to
On 2010-08-12 19:25 +0200, Bob Proulx wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
I do know about groups, but I don't necessarily know the intended
purpose of all of the pre-defined groups in a Linux system. Where
can I find documentation for that?
Unfortunately I have no idea. I don't even know if they
Arthur Machlas wrote:
Bob Proulx wrote:
With those in place you can work as yourself in those areas. Safer
than using root since as yourself you can't smash anything in the
system directories /etc or /bin or /var or other system locations.
Isn't there a risk in granting user access to
Hi
Well its still doesn't work. I am trying to build the VB kernel
modules and well it fails.
I need to build the linux-kbuild-2.6.35, working with linux-source
just doesn't work ... (I don't want to build a new linux-image)
Alex
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Alexander Samad
Okay I have a working solution and set of steps
Unfortunately I didn't keep the url where I got this. But it works, I have
to change the changelog to 2.6.35 instead of 2.6.34
==
How to build linux-kbuild-2.6 yourself
Fetch the sources from SVN:
svn co
[snip]
What do I need to do :)
Maybe this will help...
The make headers_install command exports the kernel's header files in a
form suitable for use by userspace programs.
The kernel header files can be generated from the kernel sources.
Define INSTALL_HDR_PATH= for output location.
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:43:04 -0400 (EDT), Arthur Machlas wrote:
A less religious explanation, from Greg Kroah-Hartman, author of The
Linux Kernel in a Nutshell, and well-known kernel hacker.
This warning is the most important thing to remember while working through
the
steps in this
Stephen Powell zlinuxman wrote:
(1) I believe that aptitude install linux-source-x.x.xx, as with any
package installation, requires root privileges.
Yes, but that isn't the only way to get the source. There are many
ways of getting linux kernel source that don't involve installing
packages.
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:01:50 -0400 (EDT), Alexander Samad wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 03:10:10 -0400 (EDT), Angus Hedger wrote:
I have been fumbling my way though building custom kernels on debian
using this guide
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:01:50 -0400 (EDT), Alexander Samad wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 03:10:10 -0400 (EDT), Angus Hedger wrote:
[snip
I did
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:18 PM, John Hasler jhas...@debian.org wrote:
Tom H writes:
I wasn't saying that you should use sudo. I was pointing out that you
were wrong in saying that shouldn't compile using root permissions.
No he wasn't.
Whether you choose fakeroot, sudo, su, or log on as
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:58:04 -0400 (EDT), Tom H wrote:
I have and I agree with you regarding what fakeroot does (based on the
manpage that I've read in the past and read again after you posted
part of it).
IIUC, instead of giving you additional powers, fakeroot gives your
environment
If you've looked at my kernel building web page,
http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm, you will see that I
don't cover this. That's because I don't use it when I build my
own custom kernels. I do use it when building a regular
Debian package, but for some reason I've never bothered
[snip]
I did trying using the packages for 2.6.35, but you can't install the
headers because the linux-kbuild-2.6.35 is there
Why do you want to install the headers if you already have the whole
kernel source code? What are you trying to accomplish besides
building a custom kernel?
I
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:45:04 +0800 a...@samad.com.au wrote:
[snip]
I did trying using the packages for 2.6.35, but you can't install the
headers because the linux-kbuild-2.6.35 is there
Why do you want to install the headers if you already have the whole
kernel source code? What
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:26 AM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 03:10:10 -0400 (EDT), Angus Hedger wrote:
I have been fumbling my way though building custom kernels on debian
using this guide http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm.
Though, I have been
Tom H wrote:
Bob Proulx wrote:
Alexander Samad wrote:
sudo CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=4 make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image
You shouldn't compile using root permissions. You don't need to use
sudo there and it is not desired.
From the kernel-package documentation:
4% $Get_Root make-kpkg
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 03:10:10 -0400 (EDT), Angus Hedger wrote:
I have been fumbling my way though building custom kernels on debian
using this guide http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm.
Though, I have been
Tom H wrote:
4% $Get_Root make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image
(Get_Root is whatever you need to become root -- fakeroot or
sudo are examples that come to mind).
From the fakeroot man page:
DESCRIPTION
fakeroot runs a command in an environment wherein it
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
Tom H wrote:
Bob Proulx wrote:
Alexander Samad wrote:
sudo CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=4 make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image
You shouldn't compile using root permissions. You don't need to use
sudo there and it is not desired.
From
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 7:05 PM, John Hasler jhas...@debian.org wrote:
Tom H wrote:
4% $Get_Root make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image
(Get_Root is whatever you need to become root -- fakeroot or
sudo are examples that come to mind).
From the fakeroot man page:
Tom H writes:
I wasn't saying that you should use sudo. I was pointing out that you
were wrong in saying that shouldn't compile using root permissions.
No he wasn't.
Whether you choose fakeroot, sudo, su, or log on as root, is a
religious-type discussion that you can have with someone who
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 19:38:48 -0400
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
...
Whether you choose fakeroot, sudo, su, or log on as root, is a
religious-type discussion that you can have with someone who cares
about such things.
As others have pointed out, the difference between fakeroot and the
other
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 3:45 AM, Alexander Samad a...@samad.com.au wrote:
Hi
I am looking at how to build 2.6.35 the debian way so I end up with
deb packages. the current situation is 2.6.35 is avail in experimental
(?!) with out a linux-kbuild packages - last time I asked about this
it was
Alexander Samad:
I am looking at how to build 2.6.35 the debian way so I end up with
deb packages.
The easiest way to get a kernel deb is to fetch vanilla sources from
kernel.org, unpack them and run 'make make deb-pkg'. I am not sure
whether such packages create an initramfs on installation
On 2010-08-08 09:39 +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote:
Alexander Samad:
I am looking at how to build 2.6.35 the debian way so I end up with
deb packages.
The easiest way to get a kernel deb is to fetch vanilla sources from
kernel.org, unpack them and run 'make make deb-pkg'. I am not sure
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Alexander Samad a...@samad.com.au wrote:
I am looking at how to build 2.6.35 the debian way so I end up with
deb packages. the current situation is 2.6.35 is avail in experimental
(?!) with out a linux-kbuild packages - last time I asked about this
it was
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
Alexander Samad wrote:
sudo CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=4 make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image
You shouldn't compile using root permissions. You don't need to use
sudo there and it is not desired.
From the kernel-package documentation:
* Alexander Samad [100808 12:45 +1000]:
Hi
I am looking at how to build 2.6.35 the debian way so I end up with
deb packages.
http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html
Elimar
--
what IMHO then?
IMHO - Inhalation of a Multi-leafed Herbal Opiate ;)
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 03:10:10 -0400 (EDT), Angus Hedger wrote:
I have been fumbling my way though building custom kernels on debian
using this guide http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm.
Though, I have been using the .config from the stock 2.6.32 kernel and
customising it to fit, as
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 07:48:48 -0400 (EDT), Tom H wrote:
http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm
is a good guide to building a kernel the Debian way. It is written by
d-u regular and is included in the kernel-package documentation as
/usr/share/kernel-package/docs/Kernel.htm
Alexander Samad wrote:
I have had a look here
http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage,
there is a section on building linux-kbuild - but guess what the svn
co downloads the 2.6.34 version :(
I found this http://www.linuxconfig.org/building-kernels-the-debian-way
-
I should also say that I have the following in my ~/.devscripts file
so as to always customize dpkg-buildpackage.
DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS=-uc -us
That avoids signing the source or changes files. Which IMNHO really
shouldn't be done as part of the build but only later when you are
ready
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