Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-04 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Victor Porton wrote: > > > I received no satisfactory answer. > So I feel that there is no Debian policy on using port numbers. > This policy should be added to Debian! > It may be something like: "Debian packages (with default configuration) are >

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-02 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 10:23:36AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 02 October 2017 10:04:05 Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 09:39:38AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 05:47:52PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > Patches are welcome.

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-02 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, October 02, 2017 09:39:38 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 05:47:52PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Patches are welcome. File a bug against "grep" package, make a world a > > better place. > > It has been my experience, in general, that man page patches are rarely > welcome.

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 02 October 2017 10:04:05 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 09:39:38AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 05:47:52PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > Patches are welcome. File a bug against "grep" package, make a > > > world a better place. > > > > It has

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-02 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 09:39:38AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 05:47:52PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Patches are welcome. File a bug against "grep" package, make a world a > > better place. > > It has been my experience, in general, that man page patches are

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 05:47:52PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Patches are welcome. File a bug against "grep" package, make a world a > better place. It has been my experience, in general, that man page patches are rarely welcome. Especially by Debian packagers of programs that get their man pages from

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 10:19:42AM -, Dan Purgert wrote: Trouble with ports <1024 is that the process trying to use them will need root permissions to bind to the port. This may cause its own fallout rather than using something in the upper range. And the advantage of such a port is that

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-02 Thread Dan Purgert
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 01 October 2017 03:34:19 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 01:28:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> > > > Assuring that my port is not in this IANA list is not enough to >> > > > ensure that my port number will not clash with a port

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-02 Thread Dan Purgert
shawn wilson wrote: > [...] > Lastly, certain ports are so old, their intended services shouldn't be > online anymore (see the first 20 ports or 90-110 - off the top of my > head - not sitting here and going through them) or if the service > probably won't be used in ICS or on a box designed to be

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 01 October 2017 10:55:33 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 10:45:53AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 01 October 2017 10:11:48 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 09:48:16AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > -I

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 10:45:53AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 01 October 2017 10:11:48 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 09:48:16AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > -I Process a binary file as if

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-01 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 10:45:53AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 01 October 2017 10:11:48 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 09:48:16AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > -I Process a binary file as if it did not contain matching data;

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 01 October 2017 10:11:48 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 09:48:16AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > -I Process a binary file as if it did not contain matching data; > > this is equivalent to the --binary-files=without-match option. > > > > Sure, thats

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 09:48:16AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > -I Process a binary file as if it did not contain matching data; this > is equivalent to the --binary-files=without-match option. > > Sure, thats supposed to tell me it will

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 01 October 2017 08:13:00 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 07:43:47AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 01 October 2017 03:34:19 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 01:28:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > >

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-01 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 03:44:45PM +0300, Victor Porton wrote: I received no satisfactory answer. So I feel that there is no Debian policy on using port numbers. This policy should be added to Debian! It may be something like: "Debian packages (with default configuration) are allowed to bind

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 03:44:45PM +0300, Victor Porton wrote: > Victor Porton wrote: > > > We are going to install a range of software on a Debian Linux > > installation. Because we run the same software (such as Celery) several > > times, we need

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 03:13:00PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. [...] > You haven't looked hard enough. It's "grep -I". > Those manpages, sometimes reading them works wonders. Messages crossed. Great minds think alike ;-) Cheers - -- t

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-01 Thread Victor Porton
Victor Porton wrote: > We are going to install a range of software on a Debian Linux > installation. Because we run the same software (such as Celery) several > times, we need to use port numbers different than the standard Debian port > numbers chosen by default (because we can't run more than

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 07:43:47AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 01 October 2017 03:34:19 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 01:28:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > > > Assuring that my port is not in

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-01 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 07:43:47AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 01 October 2017 03:34:19 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 01:28:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > > > Assuring that my port is not in this IANA list is not enough to >

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 01 October 2017 03:34:19 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 01:28:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > > > Assuring that my port is not in this IANA list is not enough to > > > > ensure that my port number will not clash with a port number > > > > used by a

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-01 Thread deloptes
Victor Porton wrote: > We are going to install a range of software on a Debian Linux > installation. Because we run the same software (such as Celery) several > times, we need to use port numbers different than the standard Debian port > numbers chosen by default (because we can't run more than

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 09:34:19AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > My advice [...] Needless to say, I'd go with "simple", unless there's a very strong reason against it. "Complex" is re-implementing the portmapper. Or all those other

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-10-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 01:28:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > > > Assuring that my port is not in this IANA list is not enough to > > > ensure that my port number will not clash with a port number used by > > > a Debian package (by default).

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-09-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 30 September 2017 22:28:45 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > Ok, I will not waste my time to argue over obvious things. > You won't get ports more "default" than from this list. Protocols, > ports and service names are registered for a reason. > Ex: If you install MySQL server it will

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-09-30 Thread shawn wilson
The answer is correct - IANA maintains the list of ports. You may also look at the services file nmap maintains or ask showdan what it's seen publicly if you want a public popularity contest of ports. As it is, I'm pretty sure you're over engineering this. Have a config file that has a port range

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-09-30 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
Ok, I will not waste my time to argue over obvious things. You won't get ports more "default" than from this list. Protocols, ports and service names are registered for a reason. Ex: If you install MySQL server it will be configured to listen on port 3306\tcp by default on any OS, be it Debian,

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-09-30 Thread Victor Porton
Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > There is official list of all registered port numbers: > https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-port-numbers.txt > > You can choose any port that is not in the list, to be sure they won't > clash. The list of port numbers you

Re: Free TCP/IP port numbers?

2017-09-30 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
There is official list of all registered port numbers: https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-port-numbers.txt You can choose any port that is not in the list, to be sure they won't clash. On 01.10.2017 06:04, Victor Porton wrote: > We are going to install a