Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-31 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
Στις 22-10-2014 17:41, Steve Litt έγραψε: On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 09:01:17 +0300 Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis d.ioanni...@nephelae.eu wrote: Hi, after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided the following. In

Re: Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-26 Thread tor...@riseup.net
Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided the following. In the companie's pc's i support, i'll continue with Wheezy and if there is no a clear path to Jessie

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Rusi Mody
On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 12:00:04 PM UTC+5:30, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote: Hi, after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided the following. In the companie's pc's i support, i'll

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
Στις 21-10-2014, ημέρα Τρι, και ώρα 23:55 -0700, ο/η Rusi Mody έγραψε: On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 12:00:04 PM UTC+5:30, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote: Hi, after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Jochen Spieker
Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided the following. In the companie's pc's i support, i'll continue with Wheezy and if there is no a clear path to Jessie

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:40:49 +0200 Jochen Spieker m...@well-adjusted.de wrote: I really don't get why Debian receives so much hate in this discussion. Upstream software depending on systemd is not Debian's choice. Because of the abysmal lack of communication of the reasons behind the

Debian and upstream choices (was: Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD)

2014-10-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 13:40:49 schrieb Jochen Spieker: Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided the following. In the companie's pc's i support, i'll

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
Στις 22-10-2014, ημέρα Τετ, και ώρα 13:40 +0200, ο/η Jochen Spieker έγραψε: Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided the following. In the companie's pc's i

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Rusi Mody
On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 5:30:06 PM UTC+5:30, Jochen Spieker wrote: Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided the following. In the companie's pc's i support,

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Jochen Spieker wrote: Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided the following. In the companie's pc's i support, i'll continue with Wheezy and if there is no a

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Rusi Mody wrote: On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 5:30:06 PM UTC+5:30, Jochen Spieker wrote: Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided the following. In the

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Martin Read
On 22/10/14 08:37, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote: What details do you think are neccecary ? Just grab a DI-b2 img, install xfce or lxde ( with the menu or with desktop= doesn't matter ) and then try to remove *all* the systemd utilities / libraries etc. dbus-daemon is linked against

Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD

2014-10-22 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
On 22/10/2014 7:06 μμ, Martin Read wrote: On 22/10/14 08:37, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote: What details do you think are neccecary ? Just grab a DI-b2 img, install xfce or lxde ( with the menu or with desktop= doesn't matter ) and then try to remove *all* the systemd utilities /