Re: why debian

2004-11-13 Thread Brad Sims
On Friday 12 November 2004 4:45 pm, Brian Nelson wrote: > Debian isn't a true democracy.  We elect our leader, and thereafter > the leader acts under his own accord. For what its worth, monasteries in medieval England used to be ran that way; the monks would elect an abbot who then would have abso

Re: why debian

2004-11-13 Thread Prashant kumar
Juha Siltala wrote: On 2004-11-12, Emil Perhinschi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I guess Debian is the best if you just want to start doing non-geekish stuff like reading mail, writing term papers/articles/poetry/... , listening music, watching movies or writing your own apps ... Sorry but

Re: why debian

2004-11-13 Thread Juha Siltala
On 2004-11-12, Emil Perhinschi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess Debian is the best if you just want to start doing non-geekish > stuff like reading mail, writing term papers/articles/poetry/... , > listening music, watching movies or writing your own apps ... That's it. You get a working sys

Re: why debian - longer

2004-11-13 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya tim yup.. i agree most everything .. including the differences On Sat, 13 Nov 2004, Tim Kelley wrote: > On Friday 12 November 2004 22:24, Alvin Oga wrote: > > > people can and will jump ship for any number of reasons ... > > Strength in numbers, etc. If enough debian developers "jumped

Re: why debian

2004-11-13 Thread Wim De Smet
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 22:45:25 +, Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 08:53:58PM -0600, Tim Kelley wrote: > > On Friday 12 November 2004 02:11, ken keanon wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > There are so many distros out there its confusing. Any reason(s) why > > > Debian

Re: why debian

2004-11-13 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 13 Nov 2004, Robert Parker wrote: > On Saturday 13 November 2004 00:35, Emil Perhinschi wrote: > > > > > > I guess Debian is the best if you just want to start doing non-geekish > > stuff like reading mail, writing term papers/articles/poetry/... , > > listening music, watching movies or writing

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Brian Nelson
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 08:53:58PM -0600, Tim Kelley wrote: > On Friday 12 November 2004 02:11, ken keanon wrote: > > Hi, > > > > There are so many distros out there its confusing. Any reason(s) why Debian > > should be the preferred choice? > > > > Any statistics from any source(s) to proof the po

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Justin Rosander
Ken, I've used Icepack, my personal favorite, unfortunately the distro is extremely dormant :(. I liked it because it was simple, and technically my first real linux distro experience! I've used Mandrake, for 10 minutes. Then I decided I didn't like it and moved onto . . . Debian-woody, then De

Re: why debian - longer

2004-11-12 Thread Tim Kelley
On Friday 12 November 2004 22:24, Alvin Oga wrote: thanks for your response > > Well, first, some very general things: > > just some comments ... > > > 1. Debian is not a commercial organization, but a protected non-profit. > > This means they cannot be bought out. > > people can and will

Re: why debian - longer

2004-11-12 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 08:24:14PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=independence > - lots of derivatives of debian ... good or bad ?? It was explained to me years ago that Debian was created (in part) to be a basis for other distributions. -- Carl F

Re: why debian - longer

2004-11-12 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya just atarted to read the thread ... interesting .. hey tim.. good summary ... but ... :-) On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Tim Kelley wrote: > > Any statistics from any source(s) to proof the popularity of Debian? # # if you believe their numbers; some statistics of "popularity" vs # "downloads" v

Re: OT: Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 04:45:17PM +0700, Eddy Jacob wrote: > On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:33:54 +0100, Andrea Vettorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > http://beta.search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=best+operating+system > > > > and for sure i trust them... =) > > > > > > Andrea > > > > Surprise Wind

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Tim Kelley
On Friday 12 November 2004 02:11, ken keanon wrote: > Hi, > > There are so many distros out there its confusing. Any reason(s) why Debian > should be the preferred choice? > > Any statistics from any source(s) to proof the popularity of Debian? > > I'm in the dark waiting to be enlightened. Well,

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:41:35 -0500, Rob Bochan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Friday 12 November 2004 03:11 am, ken keanon wrote: >> Hi, >> >> There are so many distros out there its confusing. Any reason(s) >> why Debian should be the preferred choice? snip> > This is a great essay written p

People have missed the main reason (was Re: why debian)

2004-11-12 Thread Chris Metzler
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:59:32 -0600 Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >ken keanon wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> There are so many distros out there its confusing. Any reason(s) why >> Debian should be the preferred choice? I'm disappointed that everyone has missed the main reason to choose Debian o

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Rob Bochan
On Friday 12 November 2004 03:11 am, ken keanon wrote: > Hi, > > There are so many distros out there its confusing. Any reason(s) why Debian > should be the preferred choice? This is a great essay written precisely about that subject. Have a look: http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debi

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 09:01 -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 14:48 +, Jon Dowland wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 15:35:41 +0200, Emil Perhinschi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > I don't like Debian very much :) > > > > You don't seem to explain why, though. > >

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 16:52 +0200, Emil Perhinschi wrote: > On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:08:36 -0600 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I don't like Debian very much :). I started to understand Linux > > > when I used Slackware back in 1999, and I still daydream of > > > installing it bac

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Sergio Basurto Juarez
--- ken keanon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > There are so many distros out there its confusing. > Any reason(s) why Debian should be the preferred > choice? > > Any statistics from any source(s) to proof the > popularity of Debian? > > I'm in the dark waiting to be enlightened. > >

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 14:48 +, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 15:35:41 +0200, Emil Perhinschi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't like Debian very much :) > > You don't seem to explain why, though. I actually think he explained it extremely well. He uses Debian because it just

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 16:52 +0200, Emil Perhinschi wrote: > On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:08:36 -0600 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I don't like Debian very much :). I started to understand Linux > > > when I used Slackware back in 1999, and I still daydream of > > > installing it bac

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 15:35:41 +0200, Emil Perhinschi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't like Debian very much :) You don't seem to explain why, though. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Emil Perhinschi
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 08:08:36 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't like Debian very much :). I started to understand Linux > > when I used Slackware back in 1999, and I still daydream of > > installing it back > [snip] > > I guess I won't switch to other distribution any time

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2004-11-13 at 01:03 +1100, Robert Parker wrote: > On Saturday 13 November 2004 00:35, Emil Perhinschi wrote: [snip] > > I'd disagree with the above. Fedora for one thing has had it's libaries > 'enhanced' to stop you compiling apps that might allow you to do stuff that > the MPAA / RIAA

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 15:35 +0200, Emil Perhinschi wrote: > If this message was posted on a mixed-distro list it would be a call for > a huge flame war :) > > Well, I don't want to start a flame war, so please, take my statements > cum grano salis and, please, do not get angry :) > > I don't like

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Robert Parker
On Saturday 13 November 2004 00:35, Emil Perhinschi wrote: > > > I guess Debian is the best if you just want to start doing non-geekish > stuff like reading mail, writing term papers/articles/poetry/... , > listening music, watching movies or writing your own apps ... > > If you need a distro to co

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Kent West
ken keanon wrote: Hi, There are so many distros out there its confusing. Any reason(s) why Debian should be the preferred choice? For me, it's because Debian is philosophically pure. It's "Free" (as well as free). I don't have to worry about licensing issues; if I want to install a piece of

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
ken keanon wrote: Hi, There are so many distros out there its confusing. Any reason(s) why Debian should be the preferred choice? Any statistics from any source(s) to proof the popularity of Debian? I'm in the dark waiting to be enlightened. Cheers Ken --

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Emil Perhinschi
If this message was posted on a mixed-distro list it would be a call for a huge flame war :) Well, I don't want to start a flame war, so please, take my statements cum grano salis and, please, do not get angry :) I don't like Debian very much :). I started to understand Linux when I used Slackwa

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Robert Storey
As you probably know, there are quite a few distros based on Debian. I'm actually using Kanotix myself. The great part is that all these Debian-based distros can (for the most part) make use of the vast archive of Debian packages that you can install with apt-get. With something like 15,000 package

Re: OT: Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:45:17 +0700, Eddy Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:33:54 +0100, Andrea Vettorello > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > http://beta.search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=best+operating+system > > > > and for sure i trust them... =) > > > > > > Andrea > > >

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Matt Johnson
--- ken keanon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > There are so many distros out there its confusing. > Any reason(s) why Debian should be the preferred > choice? I switched after many happy years of using SuSE (which is a great distro to get started with). Debian has a package and dependency

OT: Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Eddy Jacob
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:33:54 +0100, Andrea Vettorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://beta.search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=best+operating+system > > and for sure i trust them... =) > > > Andrea > Surprise Windows is not the first one on the results :) tried same query on google, show tot

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Eddy Jacob
Well it very depends, if you want a very 'windows' like operating system, probably you want a linux like xandros. but if you want a linux to play with, debian is a good choice. My first attempt on linux was few years back with red hat, suse, and just this year, I've beginning to play debian, and I

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:11:27 -0800 (PST), ken keanon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > There are so many distros out there its confusing. Any reason(s) why Debian > should be the preferred choice? > > Any statistics from any source(s) to proof the popularity of Debian? > > I'm in

Re: why debian

2004-11-12 Thread EJ Finneran
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 00:11:27 -0800 (PST), ken keanon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > There are so many distros out there its confusing. Any reason(s) why Debian > should be the preferred choice? > > Any statistics from any source(s) to proof the popularity of Debian? > > I'm in

Re: Why debian sucks.

2002-10-29 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 07:57:45PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 05:31:54PM +0100, Carel Fellinger wrote: > > Unfortunately this doesn't seem to work:( > > The otherday I tried to unsubscribe from debian-ipv6 to find out that > > I subscribed under a different name, so I trie

Re: Why debian sucks.

2002-10-28 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 05:31:54PM +0100, Carel Fellinger wrote: > Unfortunately this doesn't seem to work:( > The otherday I tried to unsubscribe from debian-ipv6 to find out that > I subscribed under a different name, so I tried to unsubscribe with > that other name filled in, I got a conformatio

Re: Why debian sucks.

2002-10-28 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 11:41:49PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: ... > > Your problem is that, since you have changed your server, your > > unsubscribe message is coming from the wrong address. You will have to > > be removed manually. > > If that is true then you should be able to go to this page an

Re: Why debian sucks.

2002-10-28 Thread Wendell Cochran
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:23:18 -0800 From: Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sat, Aug 10, 2002 at 08:52:20PM -0700, Greg Ray wrote: >> Actually I like debian but I hate this list, I used to post about 7 months > ago but then I had to sell my server. I have been trying to get off this >> list s

Re: Why debian sucks.

2002-10-27 Thread Bob Proulx
> On Sun, 2002-08-11 at 04:52, Greg Ray wrote: > > Actually I like debian but I hate this list, I used to post about 7 months > > ago but then I had to sell my server. I have been trying to get off this > > list since then but it seems it is ran by a monkey or a guy who could'nt > > give a rats ass

Re: Why debian sucks.

2002-10-27 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sun, 2002-08-11 at 04:52, Greg Ray wrote: > Actually I like debian but I hate this list, I used to post about 7 months > ago but then I had to sell my server. I have been trying to get off this > list since then but it seems it is ran by a monkey or a guy who could'nt > give a rats ass. Now I am

Re: Why debian sucks.

2002-10-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Aug 10, 2002 at 08:52:20PM -0700, Greg Ray wrote: > Actually I like debian but I hate this list, I used to post about 7 months > ago but then I had to sell my server. I have been trying to get off this > list since then but it seems it is ran by a monkey or a guy who could'nt > give a rats

Re: Why debian sucks.

2002-10-27 Thread Greg Ray
Thank you dumbass, i think I allready tried that. - Original Message - From: "sean finney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Greg Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 9:17 PM Subject: Re: Why debian sucks. -- To

Re: Why debian sucks.

2002-10-27 Thread sean finney
On Sat, Aug 10, 2002 at 08:52:20PM -0700, Greg Ray wrote: > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --sean msg09572/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Why debian sucks.

2002-10-27 Thread Greg Ray
maby someone will kick me off. - Original Message - From: "Tom Allison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 2:37 AM Subject: Re: Why debian sucks. > Edward Guldemond wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 08:12:44PM +, A

Re: Why debian sucks.

2002-10-27 Thread Tom Allison
Edward Guldemond wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 08:12:44PM +, Angles Puglisi wrote: Join a RedHat users list and you'll find the same percentage of RH users thinks RH sucks. People like to bitch. Please do not feed the trolls. Thanks, Here's a kicker. Google around for this dude an

Re: I needed a good laugh (was RE: Why debian sucks.)

2002-10-26 Thread Greg Ray
Your welcome - Original Message - From: "David Pastern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 3:14 PM Subject: I needed a good laugh (was RE: Why debian sucks.) > Edward Guldemond said on 26 October 2002 6:32 AM > >

I needed a good laugh (was RE: Why debian sucks.)

2002-10-26 Thread David Pastern
Edward Guldemond said on 26 October 2002 6:32 AM >On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 08:12:44PM +, Angles Puglisi wrote: > Join a RedHat users list and you'll find the same percentage of RH users thinks RH > sucks. People like to bitch. > >Please do not feed the trolls. That's the best laugh i've h

Re: Why debian sucks.

2002-10-26 Thread David P James
Greg Ray was roused into action on 2002-08-09 15:58 and wrote: Because its not redhat. Is this some kind of sophisticated Outlook Virus? It looks like it plays with the system clock too... You poor Windows-afflicted user - you have our sympathies. -- David P. James 4th Year Economics Student Q

Re: Why debian sucks.

2002-10-26 Thread Edward Guldemond
On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 08:12:44PM +, Angles Puglisi wrote: > Join a RedHat users list and you'll find the same percentage of RH users thinks RH > sucks. People like to bitch. > Please do not feed the trolls. Thanks, -- -- Edward Guldemond Key fin

Re: Why debian sucks.

2002-10-26 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 09/08/02 Greg Ray did speaketh: > Because its not redhat. He mails from "Microsoft Outlook Express". Quite the Linux afficionado, are we loser? Another one for my kill file. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 "...the word HACK is used as a

Re: Why debian sucks.

2002-10-26 Thread Klaus Imgrund
On Fri, 09 Aug 2002 12:58:12 -0700 "Greg Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because its not redhat. > If you'd say because it is green - ok you're right! But redhat - plleeaaase! Have another beer. Prost, Klaus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". T

Re: Why debian sucks.

2002-10-26 Thread
Join a RedHat users list and you'll find the same percentage of RH users thinks RH sucks. People like to bitch. Greg Ray ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*: > >Because its not redhat. > -- That's "angle" as in geometry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". T

Re: Why Debian?

2002-03-01 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > why is "It's a completely free distribution run by volunteers" on both? =) Because let's be honest, volunteers can drop the ball if they get in over their head or their real life job or screaming baby etc. get in the way. And not having money mea

Re: Why Debian?

2002-03-01 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Gustavo" == Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Gustavo> On 01 Mar 2002 11:10:11 -0600 Gustavo> Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Why Debian? >> >> - It's a completely free distribution run by volunteers >> >> Why not Debian? >>

Re: Why Debian?

2002-03-01 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
On 01 Mar 2002 11:10:11 -0600 Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why Debian? > > - It's very easy to upgrade and maintain your system > - It has a wide variety of packages to use > - It's a completely free distribution run by volunteers > > Why not Debian? > > - Lon

Re: Why Debian?

2002-03-01 Thread user list
On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 08:38:58AM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote: > * Johan van der Walt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020301 00:06]: > > I am a physicist in the School of Physics of the Potchefstroom > > University in South Africa and is one of a few people on campus > > using Linux. Have been using Linux now

Re: Why Debian?

2002-03-01 Thread Sam Varghese
On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 09:20:50AM +0200, Johan van der Walt wrote: > My question then is: what makes Debian GNU/Linux different so that I > should use it rather than any of the other distributions? Is Linux not > just Linux? From a scientific point of view I use IRAF and that comes > with Debian w

Re: Why Debian?

2002-03-01 Thread Arthur H. Johnson II
1. Its free 2. Apt On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 10:40, Kent West wrote: > Johan van der Walt wrote: > > > > > At present I have an older version of RedHat running on my pc. > > > > > Basically I feel that I have to pick one from the following > > four: Debian, SuSe, RedHat and Slackware. > > >

RE: Why Debian (HELP!!!)

2002-03-01 Thread Kurc, Marcin A.
http://bugzilla.ximian.com/ Marcin Kurc CAD Systems Administrator Cooper-Standard Automotive -Original Message- From: user list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Johan van der Walt; debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Why Debian (

Re: Why Debian?

2002-03-01 Thread Wayne Topa
Johan van der Walt([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > I am a physicist in the School of Physics of the Potchefstroom > University in South Africa and is one of a few people on campus > using Linux. Have been using Linux now for a couple of years. I am not > a Linux guru and learn about

Re: Why Debian?

2002-03-01 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Johan" == Johan van der Walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Johan> My question then is: what makes Debian GNU/Linux different Johan> so that I should use it rather than any of the other Johan> distributions? Is Linux not just Linux? From a scientific Johan> point of view I use IR

Re: Why Debian?

2002-03-01 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Johan van der Walt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020301 00:06]: > I am a physicist in the School of Physics of the Potchefstroom > University in South Africa and is one of a few people on campus > using Linux. Have been using Linux now for a couple of years. I am not > a Linux guru and learn about the sys

Re: Why Debian?

2002-03-01 Thread Kent West
Johan van der Walt wrote: At present I have an older version of RedHat running on my pc. > Basically I feel that I have to pick one from the following four: Debian, SuSe, RedHat and Slackware. My question then is: what makes Debian GNU/Linux different so that I should use it rather t

Re: Why Debian?

2002-03-01 Thread Hank Marquardt
You come to this point at an interesting time. Right now the 'stable' branch (reference your "most stable" comment) is quite dated -- but it is *old* and IMO not really suitable for a desktop system; but many people like it for server use because of it's stability. That said, stable will get a fa

RE: Why Debian?

2002-03-01 Thread Lucas Bruand
> On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 09:20:50AM +0200, Johan van der Walt wrote: > [snip] > > My question then is: what makes Debian GNU/Linux different so that I > > should use it rather than any of the other distributions? Is Linux not > > just Linux? From a scientific point of view I use IRAF and that come

Re: Why Debian?

2002-03-01 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 09:20:50AM +0200, Johan van der Walt wrote: [snip] > My question then is: what makes Debian GNU/Linux different so that I > should use it rather than any of the other distributions? Is Linux not > just Linux? From a scientific point of view I use IRAF and that comes > with D

Re: Why Debian default kernel is bzImage ?

1998-08-13 Thread Robert J. Alexander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > hi- > > did you get any responses to your question? > > > yup, me too. > > > i do something similar -- though i put: > > kimage := zImage > > in /etc/kernel-pkg.conf (though i have to remember to do this for each > installation). > Thank you sen. Yours is the

Re: Why Debian default kernel is bzImage ?

1998-08-13 Thread sen_ml
hi- did you get any responses to your question? At around Wed, 12 Aug 1998 05:42:30 +0200, "Robert J. Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> may have mentioned: > Every time I pick up a new Debian drop from scratch (ie use the install > disks), I have to find the special "tecra" disks since on all p

Re: why debian?

1998-04-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 02:49:31PM -0700, King Lee wrote: > While Debian does have more packages, it also seems to stricter, in > terms of including packages into their core distribution, than > Red Hat. There were several important (IMHO) packages > available on Red Hat cdroms that were not a

Re: why debian?

1998-04-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 11:33:25AM +, Ian Stuart wrote: > RedHat is easier to install initially (it's only 2 floppies as opposed > to Debians 6+), however the updating system in debian (dselect) is _far_ > superior.. Fortunately both distributions have much better ways of installing these days

Re: why debian?

1998-04-15 Thread King Lee
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Brian Mays wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Maarten Bezemer) wrote: > > > Someone told me there are far more rpm-packages available, and other > > distributions also use rpm. What's true about that? > > The core set of RPM packages, what RedHat produces, is much smaller > than

Re: why debian?

1998-04-15 Thread Robert Wilderspin
On 15 Apr 98 11:54:27 GMT, in linux.debian.user Maarten Bezemer wrote: >Someone told me there are far more rpm-packages available, and other >distributions also use rpm. What's true about that? Whether it's true or not, Debian can install rpm packages! Use the "alien" package to convert them to

Re: why debian?

1998-04-15 Thread Anthony Campbell
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Isabelle Dauthieu wrote: > > In my humble opinion, there is no great difference between installing a > debian or a red hat distribution, but upgrading a debian one is far > easier. Moreover a debian installation is able to install redhat packages, > the reverse is false. No,

Re: why debian?

1998-04-15 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Stuart wrote: > Isabelle Dauthieu wrote: > > > > On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Stuart wrote: > > > > > > where to ask this question to Red Hat users. Maybe someone can tell me > > > > what distribution is better? > > > >From my own experience (a portable using a PCMCIA networ

re: why debian?

1998-04-15 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
>As we all know, public profiles & reality often differ... >RedHat is easier to install initially (it's only 2 floppies as opposed >to Debians 6+), however the updating system in debian (dselect) is _far_ >superior.. speaking of profiles & reality differing :) You're off by 6 :) Either boot fro

Re: why debian?

1998-04-15 Thread Alan Su
Ian Stuart wrote (Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:14:33 + ): |>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Stuart wrote: |>> > |>> > RedHat is easier to install initially (it's only 2 floppies as opposed |>> > to Debians 6+), however the updating system in debian (dselect) is _far_ |>> > superior.. |>> |>I feel I must cla

Re: why debian?

1998-04-15 Thread Brian Mays
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Maarten Bezemer) wrote: > Someone told me there are far more rpm-packages available, and other > distributions also use rpm. What's true about that? The core set of RPM packages, what RedHat produces, is much smaller than Debian's main distribution. While some other companies

Re: why debian?

1998-04-15 Thread Ian Stuart
Isabelle Dauthieu wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Stuart wrote: > > > > where to ask this question to Red Hat users. Maybe someone can tell me > > > what distribution is better? > > >From my own experience (a portable using a PCMCIA network adapter), > > > > RedHat is easier to install initia

Re: why debian?

1998-04-15 Thread Isabelle Dauthieu
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Stuart wrote: > Chris de Weth wrote: > > I was just wondering if anyone can tell me why so much people use Red > > Hat linux? > As a newbie to this arena, my impression is that RedHat has a better > public profile. > > As we all know, public profiles & reality often di

Re: why debian?

1998-04-15 Thread Liran Zvibel
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Maarten Bezemer wrote: > I installed Debian 1.3.1 even without any floppy (one actually, the boot > disk created after the install to boot the new system) > Just booted from CD and all went quite easy. If your system didn't support > IDE/ATAPI-CDROM boot, you only need the fir

Re: why debian?

1998-04-15 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi, > combination in between. It has a good package system and does not seem to > have > as many bugs as redhat. Although I could be wrong since red hat has a lot of > patches. Try them yourself and get a feel for it. This could be interpreted several ways. Either RedHat is quicker at gettin

Re: why debian?

1998-04-15 Thread Graham Pople
> There is no "better" distribution. It is a matter of taste and style. >I like slackware, but it has no package system. :) I find Debian to be a nice >combination in between. It has a good package system and does not seem to have >as many bugs as redhat. Although I could be wrong since

Re: why debian?

1998-04-15 Thread Carroll Kong
There is no "better" distribution. It is a matter of taste and style. I like slackware, but it has no package system. :) I find Debian to be a nice combination in between. It has a good package system and does not seem to have as many bugs as redhat. Although I could be wrong since red

Re: why debian?

1998-04-15 Thread Maarten Bezemer
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Ian Stuart wrote: > > I was just wondering if anyone can tell me why so much people use Red > > Hat linux? > As a newbie to this arena, my impression is that RedHat has a better > public profile. > > As we all know, public profiles & reality often differ... > [snip] > Red

Re: why debian?

1998-04-15 Thread Ian Stuart
Chris de Weth wrote: > > Hi! > > I was just wondering if anyone can tell me why so much people use Red > Hat linux? As a newbie to this arena, my impression is that RedHat has a better public profile. As we all know, public profiles & reality often differ... > I'm thinking of going to use Linu

Re: Why Debian?

1997-09-05 Thread Kai Grossjohann
> On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Gonzalo A Diethelm said: Gonzalo> [...]I very much like the idea of contributing to the free Gonzalo> software idea, but I'd also like to get a functional, Gonzalo> feature-loaded and maintainable system;[...] The package maintenance software has an unusual interfa

Re: Why Debian?

1997-08-08 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Aug 07, George Bonser wrote: > > I will say this to ANYONE. Debian is the very BEST linux distribution > once you get to know it. I would not use any other. The two things that > is needs polish on are the package management interface (being worked on) > and a nice default X setup with some

Re: Why Debian?

1997-08-07 Thread Patrick Weemeeuw
Torsten Hilbrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > Yes!! I heard that the a.out->ELF update worked well in Debian system > (no own experience, I started using Debian with 1.2). > Indeed. At my previous job, I upgraded a HTTP proxy server from a.out to ELF format with only 2 minutes downt

Re: Why Debian?

1997-08-07 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
"Gonzalo A. Diethelm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello all, > > I know this will prove I'm a newbie, but here it is anyway... Everyone starts as newbie. > Why should I get Debian rather than other Linux distributions? I > very much like the idea of contributing to the free software idea, > b

Re: Why Debian?

1997-08-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I know I am biased about this, but I'll venture forth anyway. You mention you want a machine that is a) functional This is a functional, working machine I am writing from. I am a consultant, and this machine *has* to be live almost on a 7x24 basis, my bread-and

Re: Why Debian?

1997-08-04 Thread Will Lowe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Gonzalo A. Diethelm wrote: > Hello all, 'lo :). > also like to get a functional, feature-loaded and maintainable system; > in particular, I'd like good migration paths for major changes in the > Linux architecture as a whole (libc to glibc,

Re: Why Debian?

1997-08-04 Thread Vadim Vygonets
On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Gonzalo A. Diethelm wrote: > Why should I get Debian rather than other Linux distributions? I very > much like the idea of contributing to the free software idea, but I'd > also like to get a functional, feature-loaded and maintainable system; > in particular, I'd like good mig

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