Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-04 Thread therealcyclist
Am Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 07:54:48PM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > If you're not willing to do the work to diagnose your own system, then > this thread is over. Guess it's over. thanks to all who have tried to help. --

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 11:43:29PM +, therealcyclist wrote: > Am Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 07:18:36PM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > > If you are running "startx" on tty1 in Debian 11 and Xorg is running > > as root instead of your regular user account, then START THERE. > > I have tested debian 12

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-04 Thread therealcyclist
Am Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 07:18:36PM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > On Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 11:03:27PM +, therealcyclist wrote: > > Am Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 08:26:55PM +0200 schrieb Vincent Lefevre: > > > i3-wm is a window manager, not a display manager. So it depends on > > > what display manager

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 11:03:27PM +, therealcyclist wrote: > Am Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 08:26:55PM +0200 schrieb Vincent Lefevre: > > i3-wm is a window manager, not a display manager. So it depends on > > what display manager you're using (if any). > > so we assume that the majority use a displa

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-04 Thread therealcyclist
Am Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 08:26:55PM +0200 schrieb Vincent Lefevre: > On 2023-06-02 22:21:56 +, therealcyclist wrote: > > Am Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 07:07:05PM +0200 schrieb Michel Verdier: > > > Le 2 juin 2023 therealcyclist a écrit : > > > > > > > I tried the new Debian bookworm installer rc4 and

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-04 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-06-02 22:21:56 +, therealcyclist wrote: > Am Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 07:07:05PM +0200 schrieb Michel Verdier: > > Le 2 juin 2023 therealcyclist a écrit : > > > > > I tried the new Debian bookworm installer rc4 and i manually installed > > > i3-wm. > > > I started i3 from tty with startx

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread therealcyclist
Am Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 08:22:27PM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > > I was thinking of these changes in Stretch: > > * For many Intel graphics chipsets, the Stretch X server will use the >modeset driver instead of the intel driver. The modeset driver may >require non-free firmware (firmwar

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jun 03, 2023 at 12:11:47AM +, therealcyclist wrote: > Am Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 07:52:03PM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > > No "needs_root_rights" here, so I don't know why yours needs it. Maybe > > it's got something to do with driver selection? If I recall correctly > > from the days

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread therealcyclist
Am Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 07:52:03PM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > That's quite strange. I have not installed bookworm, but I just upgraded > to it. I use startx as well (but with fvwm instead of i3-wm), and I'm not > seeing this problem. Xorg runs as me, just as it has done for the last > few re

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 04:32:38PM +, therealcyclist wrote: > I tried the new Debian bookworm installer rc4 and i manually installed i3-wm. > I started i3 from tty with startx command as user. > to my surprise i found out that the xorg process is running as root. > that can't be intentional, ca

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread therealcyclist
Am Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 07:07:05PM +0200 schrieb Michel Verdier: > Le 2 juin 2023 therealcyclist a écrit : > > > I tried the new Debian bookworm installer rc4 and i manually installed > > i3-wm. > > I started i3 from tty with startx command as user. > > to my surprise i found out that the xorg pr

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread therealcyclist
Am Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 09:24:13PM +0200 schrieb Sven Joachim: > > That is rather strange. The source of the wrapper program that decides > whether Xorg needs root rights has not been touched for many years[1]. > > Cheers, >Sven > > > 1. > https://salsa.debian.org/xorg-team/xserver/xor

Re: Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread therealcyclist
You linked to the Archlinux Wiki and I have installed i3-wm under archlinux and there X11 runs without root privileges by default. I assumed that it is the same under Debian because Debian is known for having relatively safe default values. It looks like i3 doesn't need x11 as root either.

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2023-06-02 16:32 +, therealcyclist wrote: > I tried the new Debian bookworm installer rc4 and i manually installed i3-wm. > I started i3 from tty with startx command as user. > to my surprise i found out that the xorg process is running as root. > that can't be intentional, can it? As long

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 2 juin 2023 therealcyclist a écrit : > I tried the new Debian bookworm installer rc4 and i manually installed i3-wm. > I started i3 from tty with startx command as user. > to my surprise i found out that the xorg process is running as root. > that can't be intentional, can it? Maybe because so