Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-29 Thread Mike McCarty
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 01:12:54PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: [snip] their systems. The advantage usually touted is that one can easily add new discs. But I'd rather have one large disc than several small ones, anyway. I suppose one who constantly installed one OS

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 01:12:54PM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 11:06:38AM -0400, E0x wrote: > > > >>i asking it because i was thinking in use lvm in desktop setup , and i can > >>live with a harddisk lose and the data on it , but not with all

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-29 Thread Mike McCarty
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 11:06:38AM -0400, E0x wrote: i asking it because i was thinking in use lvm in desktop setup , and i can live with a harddisk lose and the data on it , but not with all data lost for a desktop setup, using lvm over several small disks is es

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 11:06:38AM -0400, E0x wrote: > i asking it because i was thinking in use lvm in desktop setup , and i can > live with a harddisk lose and the data on it , but not with all data lost for a desktop setup, using lvm over several small disks is essentially the same thing as usi

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-29 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 11:06:38AM -0400, E0x wrote: > i asking it because i was thinking in use lvm in desktop setup , and i can > live with a harddisk lose and the data on it , but not with all data lost > > pd: i have some small HD > > On 12/29/06, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-29 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 11:06:38AM -0400, E0x wrote: > i asking it because i was thinking in use lvm in desktop setup , and i can > live with a harddisk lose and the data on it , but not with all data lost > Then carefully read the LVM documentation. There is a way to do what you want, but I woul

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-29 Thread E0x
i asking it because i was thinking in use lvm in desktop setup , and i can live with a harddisk lose and the data on it , but not with all data lost pd: i have some small HD On 12/29/06, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 10:50:53AM -0400, E0x wrote: > a ques

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-29 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 10:50:53AM -0400, E0x wrote: > a question about lvm , if i have 3 harddisk in a lvm setup for save data , > and dont have any raid setup , just lvm for make a big virtual HD , now on > of the 3 HD goes damage i can start with the other 2 left and only missing > the data th

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-29 Thread E0x
a question about lvm , if i have 3 harddisk in a lvm setup for save data , and dont have any raid setup , just lvm for make a big virtual HD , now on of the 3 HD goes damage i can start with the other 2 left and only missing the data that was copy in the 3 HD area ? pd: sorry for my english On

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 11:00:35AM -0500, Jay Zach wrote: > > I've played around with LVM a bit, but not a LOT > > I've often wondered if you have non-raid partitions making up the PV's of the > LV's, and had a PV fail what would happen Generally, that is a Bad Thing(TM). > Since all

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-26 Thread Jay Zach
On Saturday 23 December 2006 12:30, Alan Chandler wrote: > On Friday 22 December 2006 23:05, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > I don't know about booting LVM, though. I > > think you still need traditional partitions for that. > > I have everything on raid but not lvm - but LVM I then use for > >

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-25 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Sunday 24 December 2006 18:38, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 05:59:23PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Great. By the way, was that on a sarge or and etch? Or something > > else? > > Sarge. Most of my machines have a similar setup. It works great with etch as well.

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-24 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 05:59:23PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Great. By the way, was that on a sarge or and etch? Or something else? > Sarge. Most of my machines have a similar setup. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.c

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-24 Thread hendrik
On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 05:34:33PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 05:15:20PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Can /var live on LVM, or is it needed on my nonLVM root partition for > > boot purposes? > > > $ mount |grep ^\/dev > /dev/md1 on / type ext3 (rw) > /d

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-24 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 05:15:20PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Can /var live on LVM, or is it needed on my nonLVM root partition for > boot purposes? > $ mount |grep ^\/dev /dev/md1 on / type ext3 (rw) /dev/md0 on /boot type ext2 (rw) /dev/mapper/vg00-home on /home type ext3 (rw,nosuid,n

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-24 Thread hendrik
On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 04:50:58PM -0700, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: > On Friday 22 December 2006 15:09, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > > I heard lvm can be used to have partitions whose sizes can be changed > > over time in non-destructive way as far as the data is concerned. > > 1) Does anyone use t

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-24 Thread David Hart
On Sun 2006-12-24 08:09:04 +, Alan Chandler wrote: > On Saturday 23 December 2006 17:31, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 05:30:43PM +, Alan Chandler wrote: > > > > > > I have everything on raid but not lvm - but LVM I then use for > > > > > > /var/cache > > > /usr/l

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-24 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2006-12-23 at 16:51 -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > On Friday 22 December 2006 17:09, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > > I heard lvm can be used to have partitions whose sizes can be changed over > > time in non-destructive way as far as the data is concerned. > > > > Thanks for all the pr

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-24 Thread Alan Chandler
On Saturday 23 December 2006 17:31, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 05:30:43PM +, Alan Chandler wrote: > > > > I have everything on raid but not lvm - but LVM I then use for > > > > /var/cache > > /usr/lib/openoffice > > heh heh. that's funny. I know its bloated, but givi

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-23 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Friday 22 December 2006 17:09, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > I heard lvm can be used to have partitions whose sizes can be changed over > time in non-destructive way as far as the data is concerned. > Thanks for all the previous replies. Another small question. I currently have Windows on this

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-23 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2006-12-23 at 15:04 -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > On Friday 22 December 2006 17:09, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > > I heard lvm can be used to have partitions whose sizes can be changed over > > time in non-destructive way as far as the data is concerned. > > > > Another basic questio

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-23 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 03:04:03PM -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > > Another basic question regarding the use of lvm. If I have traditionally > partitioned harddrive running debian Etch, can I make those partitions use > lvm without loosing any data? I have been reading the HOWTO at > http:

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-23 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Friday 22 December 2006 17:09, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > I heard lvm can be used to have partitions whose sizes can be changed over > time in non-destructive way as far as the data is concerned. > Another basic question regarding the use of lvm. If I have traditionally partitioned harddrive

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-23 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 05:30:43PM +, Alan Chandler wrote: > On Friday 22 December 2006 23:05, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > I don't know about booting LVM, though. I > > think you still need traditional partitions for that. > > You can, but you need your initramfs to load the appropriate

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-23 Thread Alan Chandler
On Friday 22 December 2006 23:05, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > I don't know about booting LVM, though. I > think you still need traditional partitions for that. You can, but you need your initramfs to load the appropriate modules. (I do not - I prefer to make a standard size partition for Roo

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-22 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Friday 22 December 2006 15:09, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > I heard lvm can be used to have partitions whose sizes can be changed > over time in non-destructive way as far as the data is concerned. > 1) Does anyone use this or is it still in an experimental state? It's very stable and is used a

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-22 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 05:09:56PM -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > I heard lvm can be used to have partitions whose sizes can be changed over > time in non-destructive way as far as the data is concerned. > > 1) Does anyone use this or is it still in an experimental state? I use this on my h

Re: lvm vs traditional partitioning

2006-12-22 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 05:09:56PM -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > I heard lvm can be used to have partitions whose sizes can be changed over > time in non-destructive way as far as the data is concerned. > > 1) Does anyone use this or is it still in an experimental state? > Most definitely