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On 05/29/08 20:28, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/29/08 19:35, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 29 May 2008 05:26:43 pm L.V.Gandhi wrote:
I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
open the file in
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On 05/29/08 20:28, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/29/08 19:35, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 29 May 2008 05:26:43 pm L.V.Gandhi wrote:
I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
open the file in
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 04:47:50PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
IIRC, each [FORTRAN punch] card had a sequence number.
Paul Scott writes:
That a choice which got in the way of the development stage. Who wanted
to punch a whole new deck for each small change?
I wrote:
IIRC the numbers did not have to be sequential. That is, you could use 10
20 30 ... and then replace 20 with 15, 20, and 25 when you made a change.
The card sorter just put the cards in ascending order.
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
Isn't that where line numbers came from? Since each
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 06:54:42PM +1000, Adrian Levi wrote:
2008/5/30 Russell L. Harris :
I speak of the days of Fortran-II running on an IBM 1620. Back then,
it often was necessary to load the compiler (another deck of punched
cards) before loading the
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
IIRC, each [FORTRAN punch] card had a sequence number.
Paul Scott writes:
That a choice which got in the way of the development stage. Who wanted
to punch a whole new deck for each small change?
IIRC the numbers did not have to be sequential. That is, you could use
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 08:57:42AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doug writes:
IIRC, each card had a sequence number. I don't know if they had
card-sorter machines.
Yes, of course we had sorters. Card sorting machines are much older than
computers: it's what punch cards were
There are more intelligent text editors for Window$ than notepad.
Try using one called Textpad. http://www.textpad.com . It intelligently
detects if the file was saved on a Unix, windows, or Mac system and
correctly displays the contents. I am registered user of Textpad from
days when I used to
John Hasler wrote:
Doug writes:
IIRC, each card had a sequence number. I don't know if they had
card-sorter machines.
Yes, of course we had sorters. Card sorting machines are much older than
computers: it's what punch cards were invented for. Ask Wikipedia to tell
you about Herman
Doug writes:
IIRC, each card had a sequence number. I don't know if they had
card-sorter machines.
Yes, of course we had sorters. Card sorting machines are much older than
computers: it's what punch cards were invented for. Ask Wikipedia to tell
you about Herman Hollerith. Don't you
Larry Owens wrote:
I also remember when one had to put two STOP bits at the end of each
ASCII
character transmitted to allow the print ball time to return to its
resting position in advance of the next character
That's not the reason for using two stop bits.
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John Hasler
John
That's
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doug writes:
IIRC, each card had a sequence number. I don't know if they had
card-sorter machines.
Yes, of course we had sorters. Card sorting machines are much older than
computers: it's what punch cards were invented for. Ask Wikipedia to tell
you
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On 05/30/08 21:17, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
[snip]
However, I'm of the opinion firmly that the lessons and skills learned
in those times which became the mainframe culture gives rise to a
different type of sysadmin than unix does. Even in the
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 01:01:15PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/30/08 21:17, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
[snip]
However, I'm of the opinion firmly that the lessons and skills learned
in those times which became the mainframe culture gives rise to a
different type of sysadmin than unix
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On 05/31/08 19:16, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 01:01:15PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/30/08 21:17, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
[snip]
However, I'm of the opinion firmly that the lessons and skills learned
in those times which
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2008/5/30 Russell L. Harris :
I speak of the days of Fortran-II running on an IBM 1620. Back then,
it often was necessary to load the compiler (another deck of punched
cards) before loading the application.
It must have been fun to watch someone
Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/29/08 19:35, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 29 May 2008 05:26:43 pm L.V.Gandhi wrote:
I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
open the file in note pad, I find files are not having line break, but
having a
# IN UNIX ENVIRONMENT: convert Unix newlines (LF) to DOS format
sed s/$/`echo -e \\\r`/# command line under ksh
sed 's/$'/`echo \\\r`/ # command line under bash
sed s/$/`echo \\\r`/ # command line under zsh
sed 's/$/\r/'# gsed
* Adrian Levi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080530 03:56]:
2008/5/30 Russell L. Harris :
I speak of the days of Fortran-II running on an IBM 1620. Back then,
it often was necessary to load the compiler (another deck of punched
cards) before loading the application.
It must have been fun to watch
Adrian writes:
It must have been fun to watch someone play pickup 500 and put them all
back in order again.
That's what the card sorter was for.
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Adrian Levi wrote:
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2008/5/30 Russell L. Harris :
I speak of the days of Fortran-II running on an IBM 1620. Back then,
it often was necessary to load the compiler (another deck of punched
cards) before loading the application.
It must
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 05:56:43AM +0530, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
open the file in note pad, I find files are not having line break, but
having a character in place of line break. Is there any way in echo
and cat commands usage to
Andrew Reid wrote:
On Thursday 29 May 2008 21:28, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Actually, it dates back further than that, to ASR33 teletype machines,
where you needed to issue separate carriage return and line feed
characters to end a line - to i) physically return the carriage to the
beginning of
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/29/08 19:35, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 29 May 2008 05:26:43 pm L.V.Gandhi wrote:
I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
open the file in note pad, I find files are not having line break, but
having a character in place of line
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 05:56:43AM +0530, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
open the file in note pad, I find files are not having line break, but
having a character in
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:35:41AM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
* Miles Fidelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080529 23:28]:
Back about 1967, the ASR33 was coveted by those of us whose only means
of input and output was the 80-column punch card.
Output?, you say? Yes. For printed output, you
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 06:54:42PM +1000, Adrian Levi wrote:
2008/5/30 Russell L. Harris :
I speak of the days of Fortran-II running on an IBM 1620. Back then,
it often was necessary to load the compiler (another deck of punched
cards) before loading the application.
It must have been
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 08:49:07AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also remember when one had to put two STOP bits at the end of each ASCII
character transmitted to allow the print ball time to return to its
resting position in advance of the next character
Larry Owens
Yeah, and it only
Doug writes:
IIRC, each card had a sequence number. I don't know if they had
card-sorter machines.
Yes, of course we had sorters. Card sorting machines are much older than
computers: it's what punch cards were invented for. Ask Wikipedia to tell
you about Herman Hollerith. Don't you kids
Larry Owens wrote:
I also remember when one had to put two STOP bits at the end of each ASCII
character transmitted to allow the print ball time to return to its
resting position in advance of the next character
That's not the reason for using two stop bits.
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John Hasler
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On Thursday 29 May 2008 05:26:43 pm L.V.Gandhi wrote:
I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
open the file in note pad, I find files are not having line break, but
having a character in place of line break. Is there any way in echo
and cat commands usage to put
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On 05/29/08 19:35, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 29 May 2008 05:26:43 pm L.V.Gandhi wrote:
I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
open the file in note pad, I find files are not having line break, but
having a
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/29/08 19:35, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 29 May 2008 05:26:43 pm L.V.Gandhi wrote:
I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
open the file in note pad, I find files are not having line break, but
having a character in place of
On Thursday 29 May 2008 21:28, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
Since 90% of all computers are DOS/Windows, and got that method from
CP/M, which did it that way back in 1976/77, your gratuitously
different comment is absurdly wrong.
Actually, it dates back further than that, to
On Thursday 29 May 2008, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Actually, it dates back further than that, to ASR33 teletype
machines, where you needed to issue separate carriage return
and line feed characters to end a line - to i) physically
return the carriage to the beginning of the line, and ii)
feed a
Andrew Reid wrote:
On Thursday 29 May 2008 21:28, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Actually, it dates back further than that, to ASR33 teletype machines,
where you needed to issue separate carriage return and line feed
characters to end a line - to i) physically return the carriage to the
beginning of
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:26 PM, L. V. Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
open the file in note pad, I find files are not having line break, but
having a character in place of line break. Is there any way in echo
and cat
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On 05/29/08 20:28, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 05/29/08 19:35, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 29 May 2008 05:26:43 pm L.V.Gandhi wrote:
I have made a text file in Linux using echo and cat commands. When I
open the file in
* Miles Fidelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080529 23:28]:
...
Actually, it dates back further than that, to ASR33 teletype machines,
where you needed to issue separate carriage return and line feed
characters to end a line - to i) physically return the carriage to the
beginning of the line, and
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