Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-12 Thread Steve Fishpaste
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 09:46:45AM -0400, Stephen Powell uttered: > You're welcome to search our archives. But don't post here unless you > run Debian, want to know how your system works, and are willing to help > others as well as yourself. I'm not trying to be unkind. I have nothing > against

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Andrew M.A. Cater put forth on 4/11/2010 6:54 PM: > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 08:58:59AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 07:56:10AM +0100, Lisi wrote: >>> On Saturday 10 April 2010 22:12:04 Dotan Cohen wrote: On 10 April 2010 00:42, Stan Hoeppner wrote: But you do u

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 08:58:59AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote: > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 07:56:10AM +0100, Lisi wrote: > > On Saturday 10 April 2010 22:12:04 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > On 10 April 2010 00:42, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > > > > But you do understand that desktop users _don't_ want to learn

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Javier Barroso
> You're welcome to search our archives.  But don't post here unless you > run Debian, want to know how your system works, and are willing to help > others as well as yourself.  I'm not trying to be unkind.  I have nothing > against you personally.  But it is not fair for you to run another OS and

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
; derivative of the thread > "[OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a > different version name" and *I* decide what this thread is about. > Please don't hijack my thread. > If you want to start a thread that says Ubuntu is better than Debian, > then go

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:59:48 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:51:01 +0200, godo wrote: ... > > We can talk about everything not just Linux OS on > > d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org > > > > Why not ask there? > > Because I sincerely think that things like i.e.,

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:51:01 +0200, godo wrote: > Camaleón wrote: >> >> (...) >> >> I acknowledge every list has it own rules but true is that some >> questions are so wide that are also valid for any kind of linux flavour >> and every list user will get benefit from the responses. >> >> And

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread godo
Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:46:45 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: (...) You're welcome to search our archives. But don't post here unless you run Debian, want to know how your system works, and are willing to help others as well as yourself. I'm not trying to be unkind. I have noth

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:46:45 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: (...) > You're welcome to search our archives. But don't post here unless you > run Debian, want to know how your system works, and are willing to help > others as well as yourself. I'm not trying to be unkind. I have > nothing against

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Stephen Powell
ad is about. I am the OP of this derivative of the thread "[OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name" and *I* decide what this thread is about. Please don't hijack my thread. If you want to start a thread that says Ubuntu is better th

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Rob Owens
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 07:56:10AM +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Saturday 10 April 2010 22:12:04 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > On 10 April 2010 00:42, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > Stephen Powell put forth on 4/8/2010 9:38 PM: > > >> For some reason, this well-known proverb is going through my head: > > >> > > >>

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread godo
Nuno Magalhães wrote: On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:29, godo wrote: Sure, but first you have to take care at least of these issues: * proprietary drivers (if applicable and/or needed) * multimedia stuff (add debian-multimedia repos) * backports for: - wicd or network-manager (if applicable, espe

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:29, godo wrote: > >> Sure, but first you have to take care at least of these issues: >> >> * proprietary drivers (if applicable and/or needed) >> * multimedia stuff (add debian-multimedia repos) >> * backports for: >>  - wicd or network-manager (if applicable, especially

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:49, Dotan Cohen wrote: > That is exactly what I do! However, I use a Debian derivative as it > has slightly better hardware support out of the box and more > up-to-date packages than straight Debian. That is exactly what this > thread is about. For personal use i prefe

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread godo
Sure, but first you have to take care at least of these issues: * proprietary drivers (if applicable and/or needed) * multimedia stuff (add debian-multimedia repos) * backports for: - wicd or network-manager (if applicable, especially since network-manager in lenny is too old) - flash

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> No, these are normal everyday people who don't know what Windows or >> what Linux is. They have a problem, they call me. No bitching, no >> blaming. >> >> > In that case there is no really meter what they have. Only you will do him a > big favor if you put Debian because in that case they will b

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Are you saying that only those who want to learn to administer it should be > allowed to use Linux? > No, no, not at all. It may have been like that once, but today anyone can pick it up and use it. Maintain and fix it, no, but use it until problems arise, most certainly. And for some distros, t

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,11.Apr.10, 12:15:53, godo wrote: > In that case there is no really meter what they have. Only you will > do him a big favor if you put Debian because in that case they will > be much safer from virus's and it's much easier to open synaptic, > hit refresh button, upgrade and apply then man

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread godo
No, these are normal everyday people who don't know what Windows or what Linux is. They have a problem, they call me. No bitching, no blaming. In that case there is no really meter what they have. Only you will do him a big favor if you put Debian because in that case they will be much safe

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 11 April 2010 09:02:49 you wrote: > >> But you do understand that desktop users _don't_ want to learn about > >> their OS, correct? > > > > Recently I was trying to show my 15 year old granddaughter, who runs Open > > SuSU 11 on her laptop, how to do some small admin job. She said that s

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> But you do understand that desktop users _don't_ want to learn about >> their OS, correct? They want the computer to be as transparent as >> possible in their workflow. >> >> > If they don't wont to learn they don't have. That's way there is PC service. > Tell me how much of them know solution f

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread godo
But you do understand that desktop users _don't_ want to learn about their OS, correct? They want the computer to be as transparent as possible in their workflow. If they don't wont to learn they don't have. That's way there is PC service. Tell me how much of them know solution for some bigge

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> But you do understand that desktop users _don't_ want to learn about >> their OS, correct? > > Recently I was trying to show my 15 year old granddaughter, who runs Open SuSU > 11 on her laptop, how to do some small admin job.  She said that she didn't > want to know.  When I queried this, she sa

Re: Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Rolf Kutz
On 11/04/10 07:56 +0100, Lisi wrote: Recently I was trying to show my 15 year old granddaughter, who runs Open SuSU 11 on her laptop, how to do some small admin job. She said that she didn't want to know. When I queried this, she said: "When I am at school, the IT department does it for me

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Lisi put forth on 4/11/2010 1:56 AM: > On Saturday 10 April 2010 22:12:04 Dotan Cohen wrote: >> On 10 April 2010 00:42, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >>> Stephen Powell put forth on 4/8/2010 9:38 PM: For some reason, this well-known proverb is going through my head: Give a man a fish and

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-10 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 10 April 2010 22:12:04 Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 10 April 2010 00:42, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > Stephen Powell put forth on 4/8/2010 9:38 PM: > >> For some reason, this well-known proverb is going through my head: > >> > >>    Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. > >>    Teach a

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-10 Thread Freeman
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:12:04AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 10 April 2010 00:42, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > Stephen Powell put forth on 4/8/2010 9:38 PM: > > > >> For some reason, this well-known proverb is going through my head: > >> > >>    Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. > >>

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Actually lenny is still on KDE 3.5, but you can get OOo 3.2 from > backports. > Thanks, I was going from the info on distrowatch. I will look into backports. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subj

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 10 April 2010 00:42, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Stephen Powell put forth on 4/8/2010 9:38 PM: > >> For some reason, this well-known proverb is going through my head: >> >>    Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. >>    Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. >> >> I'd rather le

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,11.Apr.10, 00:00:24, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I was thinking of squeeze as (if I'm not mistaken, correct me if I am) > Lenny is still on KDE 4.2.x and Open Office 2.x. KDE 4.4 is such an > improvement over 4.2, and OOo 3.2 is worlds ahead of 2.4. Actually lenny is still on KDE 3.5, but you ca

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> Stability issues and updates are the reasons that I switched _to_ >> Ubuntu! Before that it was the early Fedoras. I still think that my >> favourite two Linux OSes were Fedora Core 3 and Ubuntu Feisty. >> >> Maybe I will give Squeeze a round before my next install. I've last >> tested only Lenn

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
> (1) No need to CC me; I am subscribed to the list. > Sorry, I will try to remember. Gmail has random to-whom-the-message-will-be-replied-to behaviour, and furthermore I prefer that I get CCed. So I usually play it safe. > (2) I see that you (and a number of others) have had fun with parodies o

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
> While what you say is true to an extent, there are a number of members of > the Ubuntu list who are quite sharp. The Debian list on the whole is more > informative. > I did not mean to insult the whole list. Users such as NoOp (who also posts on openoffice-users) as tremendous help there. I real

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Well, squeeze my be well into the last half of its cycle. They are working > toward a pre-release freeze now. > I was thinking of squeeze as (if I'm not mistaken, correct me if I am) Lenny is still on KDE 4.2.x and Open Office 2.x. KDE 4.4 is such an improvement over 4.2, and OOo 3.2 is worlds a

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-09 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 17:55:56 -0400 (EDT), Nuno Magalhães wrote: > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 22:42, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> This is exactly the reason I chose Debian 10 years ago when I was looking >> for my first Linux distro.  I told a friend I wanted a server distro that >> wasn't going to spoon feed

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-09 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 04:44:46PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Ron Johnson put forth on 4/8/2010 9:58 PM: > > On 2010-04-08 21:38, Stephen Powell wrote: > > [snip] > >> > >> For some reason, this well-known proverb is going through my head: > >> > >>Give a man a fish and you feed him for a da

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-09 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 22:42, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > This is exactly the reason I chose Debian 10 years ago when I was looking > for my first Linux distro.  I told a friend I wanted a server distro that > wasn't going to spoon feed me, but make me learn something about Linux. Slackware is usuall

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-09 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ron Johnson put forth on 4/8/2010 9:58 PM: > On 2010-04-08 21:38, Stephen Powell wrote: > [snip] >> >> For some reason, this well-known proverb is going through my head: >> >>Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. >>Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. >> >> I'd rathe

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-09 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Stephen Powell put forth on 4/8/2010 9:38 PM: > For some reason, this well-known proverb is going through my head: > >Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. >Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. > > I'd rather learn to fish. This is exactly the reason I chose Debi

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-09 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 16:41, Wayne wrote: > I guess it may be a sign of the times.  The world has changed over the past > 16+ years since I first joined this list.  Sadly, for this list, not for the > better.  Maybe if we stressed your points 2,3,4, it might change for the > better.  One can onl

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-09 Thread Mark
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: [snip] > Stability issues and updates are the reasons that I switched _to_ > Ubuntu! Before that it was the early Fedoras. I still think that my > favourite two Linux OSes were Fedora Core 3 and Ubuntu Feisty. > > Maybe I will give Squeeze a roun

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-09 Thread Wayne
Stephen Powell wrote: On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 23:00:39 -0400 (EDT), Dotan Cohen wrote: Stephen Powell wrote: For some reason, this well-known proverb is going through my head: Â Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Â Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. I'd rather learn

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-09 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 23:00:39 -0400 (EDT), Dotan Cohen wrote: > Stephen Powell wrote: >> For some reason, this well-known proverb is going through my head: >> >>   Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. >>   Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. >> >> I'd rather learn to fish. >

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-09 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi, On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Bob McGowan wrote: > On 04/08/2010 07:17 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: >> On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:57:17 -0400 (EDT), bri...@aracnet.com wrote: >>> On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:09:09 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: BTW, does anyone know why Ubuntu users seem to

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-08 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, Dotan Cohen wrote: I run Ubuntu and regularly read the Debian list, so maybe I can answer. That's my situation as well. If I need to know where is the menus Firefox is, or how to change my wallpaper, the Ubuntu list is fine. But nobody there understands _anything_ about

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-08 23:49, Freeman wrote: On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 10:31:33PM -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 21:58:38 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-04-08 21:38, Stephen Powell wrote: [snip] For some reason, this well-known proverb is going through my head: Give a man a fish

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-08 Thread Freeman
On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 05:26:20AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Interesting.  This is the opposite of my experience, where I started friends > > out on Ubuntu as a way to break them into Linux but they found the amount of > > updates annoying, and there were some instability issues at different >

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-08 Thread Freeman
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 10:31:33PM -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 21:58:38 -0500 > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On 2010-04-08 21:38, Stephen Powell wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > For some reason, this well-known proverb is going through my head: > > > > > >Give a man a fish a

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-08 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 21:58:38 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-04-08 21:38, Stephen Powell wrote: > [snip] > > > > For some reason, this well-known proverb is going through my head: > > > >Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. > >Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifet

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
> There's another proverb: Teach a man to fish and he gets angry for making > him work. > Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for an evening. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com Please CC me if you want to be su

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
> For some reason, this well-known proverb is going through my head: > >   Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. >   Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. > > I'd rather learn to fish. > In this case it's: Take a rope off their necks and you save him today. (get him off W

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-08 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-08 21:38, Stephen Powell wrote: [snip] For some reason, this well-known proverb is going through my head: Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. I'd rather learn to fish. There's another proverb: Teach a man to fis

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-08 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:37:34 -0400 (EDT), Dotan Cohen wrote: > Stephen Powell wrote: >> What I don't understand is why Ubuntu users *post* here, when they >> actually run Ubuntu. > > I run Ubuntu and regularly read the Debian list, so maybe I can answer. > > If I need to know where is the menus Fi

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Interesting.  This is the opposite of my experience, where I started friends > out on Ubuntu as a way to break them into Linux but they found the amount of > updates annoying, and there were some instability issues at different > times.  So I switched them to Lenny - sure it took a little more to

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-08 Thread Mark
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > [snip] > But the biggest reason that I run Ubuntu is to > promote it. I have done tens of installs for friends, neighbours, and > family. I need to be familiar with what they are running. Debian just > needs a bit too much work, a bit too much

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
> What I don't understand is why Ubuntu users *post* here, when they > actually run Ubuntu. I run Ubuntu and regularly read the Debian list, so maybe I can answer. If I need to know where is the menus Firefox is, or how to change my wallpaper, the Ubuntu list is fine. But nobody there understands

Re: Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-08 Thread James P. Wallen
Stephen Powell wrote: On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:13:22 -0400 (EDT), Bob McGowan wrote: I run Ubuntu on my laptop, because I got tired of the manual Nvidia setup every time the kernel changed. I have been a regular on this forum for several months now, and I know from experience that the topic of th

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-08 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:13:22 -0400 (EDT), Bob McGowan wrote: > > I run Ubuntu on my laptop, because I got tired of the manual Nvidia > setup every time the kernel changed. I have been a regular on this forum for several months now, and I know from experience that the topic of the proprietary nvidi

Re: [OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-08 Thread Bob McGowan
On 04/08/2010 07:17 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:57:17 -0400 (EDT), bri...@aracnet.com wrote: >> On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:09:09 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: >>> >>> BTW, does anyone know why Ubuntu users seem to want to use the Debian> >>> forums? Don't they have forums of

[OT] Ubuntu vs Debian forums (was recompiling the kernel with a different version name)

2010-04-08 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:57:17 -0400 (EDT), bri...@aracnet.com wrote: > On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:09:09 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> BTW, does anyone know why Ubuntu users seem to want to use the Debian> >> forums? Don't they have forums of their own? > > Yes they do, and in fact I find them

Re: recompiling the kernel with a different version name

2010-04-08 Thread briand
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:09:09 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: > On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 05:56:58 -0400 (EDT), Lorenzo Bettini wrote: > > ... > > --revision actually took effect since the > > generated .deb is now (note the 'lore01') > > > > linux-image-2.6.32.10+drm33.1-recompiled_lore01_i386.deb >

Re: recompiling the kernel with a different version name

2010-04-08 Thread Lorenzo Bettini
On 04/08/2010 02:09 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 05:56:58 -0400 (EDT), Lorenzo Bettini wrote: ... --revision actually took effect since the generated .deb is now (note the 'lore01') linux-image-2.6.32.10+drm33.1-recompiled_lore01_i386.deb but what I need to do is to get rid of

Re: recompiling the kernel with a different version name

2010-04-08 Thread Lorenzo Bettini
On 04/08/2010 12:06 PM, Jochen Schulz wrote: Lorenzo Bettini: sorry I pasted the wrong name: --revision actually took effect since the generated .deb is now (note the 'lore01') linux-image-2.6.32.10+drm33.1-recompiled_lore01_i386.deb but what I need to do is to get rid of '+drm33.1' which see

Re: recompiling the kernel with a different version name

2010-04-08 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 05:56:58 -0400 (EDT), Lorenzo Bettini wrote: > ... > --revision actually took effect since the > generated .deb is now (note the 'lore01') > > linux-image-2.6.32.10+drm33.1-recompiled_lore01_i386.deb > > but what I need to do is to get rid of '+drm33.1' which seems to be > a

Re: recompiling the kernel with a different version name

2010-04-08 Thread Jochen Schulz
Lorenzo Bettini: > > sorry I pasted the wrong name: --revision actually took effect since the > generated .deb is now (note the 'lore01') > > linux-image-2.6.32.10+drm33.1-recompiled_lore01_i386.deb > > but what I need to do is to get rid of '+drm33.1' which seems to be > automatically added

Re: recompiling the kernel with a different version name

2010-04-08 Thread Lorenzo Bettini
On 04/07/2010 07:48 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:17:30 -0400 (EDT), Lorenzo Bettini wrote: I tried also with --revision, e.g., fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=lore01 --initrd --append-to-version=-recompiled kernel-image kernel-headers but I cannot seem to get rid of that +drm3

Re: recompiling the kernel with a different version name

2010-04-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Apr 07 2010, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:54:53 -0400 (EDT), Celejar wrote: >> On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:48:18 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> >>> Note: you must always issue "make-kpkg clean" after running "make >>> menuconfig" >>> or after running "make-k

Re: recompiling the kernel with a different version name

2010-04-07 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 14:54:53 -0400 (EDT), Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:48:18 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> ... >> >> Note: you must always issue "make-kpkg clean" after running "make menuconfig" >> or after running "make-kpkg" with any target other than "clean". Otherwise, >> v

Re: recompiling the kernel with a different version name

2010-04-07 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:48:18 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: ... > Note: you must always issue "make-kpkg clean" after running "make menuconfig" > or after running "make-kpkg" with any target other than "clean". Otherwise, > version and revision numbers will not work as expected. Assuming tha

Re: recompiling the kernel with a different version name

2010-04-07 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:17:30 -0400 (EDT), Lorenzo Bettini wrote: > I tried also with --revision, e.g., > > fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=lore01 --initrd > --append-to-version=-recompiled kernel-image kernel-headers > > but I cannot seem to get rid of that +drm33.1 string: > > linux-headers-2.6.32

Re: recompiling the kernel with a different version name

2010-04-07 Thread Lorenzo Bettini
On 04/07/2010 04:26 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:56:46 -0400 (EDT), Lorenzo Bettini wrote: I've just recompiled the kernel from sources with the command fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-recompiled kernel-image kernel-headers and installed it successfully. H

Re: recompiling the kernel with a different version name

2010-04-07 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 07:56:46 -0400 (EDT), Lorenzo Bettini wrote: > > I've just recompiled the kernel from sources with the command > > fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-recompiled kernel-image > kernel-headers > > and installed it successfully. > > However, the kernel name is >

recompiling the kernel with a different version name

2010-04-07 Thread Lorenzo Bettini
Hi I've just recompiled the kernel from sources with the command fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-recompiled kernel-image kernel-headers and installed it successfully. However, the kernel name is 2.6.32.10+drm33.1-recompiled and that "+drm33.1" seems to cause problems to Ec

Re: Modules can't work after recompiling the kernel

2004-10-24 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:07:01 +0800, Lian Liming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > I am newbie to debian. I tried to recompile the kernel 2.6.8 following a > debian-kernel-how-to doc. > And now, i successfully install the new kernel and it can work. But the > problem now is that modules can't w

Re: Modules can't work after recompiling the kernel

2004-10-24 Thread Kevin Wang
Upgrade modutils to latest version. - Original Message - From: "Lian Liming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 5:07 AM Subject: Modules can't work after recompiling the kernel > Hi all, > I am newbie to debian

Re: Modules can't work after recompiling the kernel

2004-10-23 Thread Eric Gaumer
On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 11:07 +0800, Lian Liming wrote: > Hi all, > I am newbie to debian. I tried to recompile the kernel 2.6.8 following a > debian-kernel-how-to doc. > And now, i successfully install the new kernel and it can work. But the > problem now is that modules can't work on my new kernel

Modules can't work after recompiling the kernel

2004-10-23 Thread Lian Liming
Hi all, I am newbie to debian. I tried to recompile the kernel 2.6.8 following a debian-kernel-how-to doc. And now, i successfully install the new kernel and it can work. But the problem now is that modules can't work on my new kernel system. I get the error message when using the command "lsmod":

Re: recompiling the kernel with APM support

2004-05-27 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Luis Finotti: > > I did not quite follow your suggestion, though. It > seems that I can't/shouldn't change the > kernel-image-2.4.18-k7 manually, and even if I could > do it, I would not know exactly how to change it... No, you shouldn't. You should see from that config how that k

Re: recompiling the kernel with APM support

2004-05-27 Thread Luis Finotti
--- Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You must also, in addition to modifying the kernel > command line, insert the apm module. > > # echo "apm" >>/etc/modules > > -Roberto Great, Roberto! That just did the trick! Thanks. Also, thanks to Keeling and Greg. Keeling: I did not

Re: recompiling the kernel with APM support

2004-05-26 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Luis Finotti wrote: Dear all, I recently upgraded my kernel from 2.4.3 to 2.4.18-k7 (I'm running a 1.2GHz Athlon) and now my computer won't turn off the power with "shutdown -h". (I did the "apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-k7" way.) The old kernel did turn off the power. After I little resea

Re: recompiling the kernel with APM support

2004-05-26 Thread Greg Madden
On Wednesday 26 May 2004 07:39 am, Luis Finotti wrote: > Dear all, > > I recently upgraded my kernel from 2.4.3 to 2.4.18-k7 > (I'm running a 1.2GHz Athlon) and now my computer > won't turn off the power with "shutdown -h". (I did > the "apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-k7" way.) > The old kern

Re: recompiling the kernel with APM support

2004-05-26 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Luis Finotti: > > I recently upgraded my kernel from 2.4.3 to 2.4.18-k7 > (I'm running a 1.2GHz Athlon) and now my computer > won't turn off the power with "shutdown -h". (I did > the "apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-k7" way.) > The old kernel did turn off the power. The confi

recompiling the kernel with APM support

2004-05-26 Thread Luis Finotti
Dear all, I recently upgraded my kernel from 2.4.3 to 2.4.18-k7 (I'm running a 1.2GHz Athlon) and now my computer won't turn off the power with "shutdown -h". (I did the "apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-k7" way.) The old kernel did turn off the power. After I little research, it seems that

Re: Any simple way to add modules w/o recompiling the kernel?

2003-11-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 07:30:19AM -0500, Andrew Perrin wrote: > Greetings- > > In expectation of a new palm pilot arriving soon, I need to add two > modules to my system: usbserial and visor. What I've done in the past is > to do a make menuconfig; select the new modules; make-kpkg clean; > make

Re: Any simple way to add modules w/o recompiling the kernel?

2003-11-07 Thread csj
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 on 07:30:19 -0500 (EST), Andrew Perrin wrote: > > In expectation of a new palm pilot arriving soon, I need to add > two modules to my system: usbserial and visor. What I've done > in the past is to do a make menuconfig; select the new modules; > make-kpkg clean; make-kpkg --rev

Re: Any simple way to add modules w/o recompiling the kernel?

2003-11-07 Thread Miernik
On 2003-11-07, Andrew Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > even on my moderately fast machine. Is there some shortcut for adding > modules to an installation whose kernel structure will stay basically the > same? Look at package ccache I use it, and it caches compiling, so compiling the same kerne

Any simple way to add modules w/o recompiling the kernel?

2003-11-07 Thread Andrew Perrin
Greetings- In expectation of a new palm pilot arriving soon, I need to add two modules to my system: usbserial and visor. What I've done in the past is to do a make menuconfig; select the new modules; make-kpkg clean; make-kpkg --revision xx kernel_image; make-kpkg modules_image; cd /usr/src; dpk

Re: /lib/modules/2.4.18 missing while recompiling the kernel

2002-09-10 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Matthias Szupryczynski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020911 04:07]: >> [..] All seems to be ok except one thing, the module suport. [..] >> Maybe someone can help me :)) > After you have created your kernel image with 'make bzImage' or similar, > do the following (line 177-180 /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4

Re: /lib/modules/2.4.18 missing while recompiling the kernel

2002-09-10 Thread Matthias Szupryczynski
On Wed, 2002-09-11 at 11:45, Pierre Dupuis wrote: > Hello Everyone :) > > So i finaly decide to upgrading the kernel.. > All seems to be ok except one thing, the module suport. > It's strange cause i enable this module process in the xconfig menu > ...But i haven't got a /lib/modules/2.4.18/

/lib/modules/2.4.18 missing while recompiling the kernel

2002-09-10 Thread Pierre Dupuis
Hello Everyone :)   So i finaly decide to upgrading the kernel.. All seems to be ok except one thing, the module suport. It's strange cause i enable this module process in the xconfig menu...But i haven't got a /lib/modules/2.4.18/ dir...   Maybe someone can help me :))   Pierre --Pierre

Re: recompiling the kernel

2001-04-04 Thread Karsten Heymann
On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Michael Soulier wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:07:11PM -0300, Ted Gervais wrote: > > > > I want to make some changes to my kernel in my newly installed debian system > > and am used to going to the directory where the kernel source is located > > and > > typing 'make me

Re: recompiling the kernel

2001-04-04 Thread Michael Soulier
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:07:11PM -0300, Ted Gervais wrote: > > I want to make some changes to my kernel in my newly installed debian system > and am used to going to the directory where the kernel source is located and > typing 'make menuconfig'. It seems that Debian does things differently. >

Re: recompiling the kernel

2001-04-04 Thread Vinh Truong
* Ted Gervais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010404 11:06]: > > I want to make some changes to my kernel in my newly installed debian system > and am used to going to the directory where the kernel source is located and > typing 'make menuconfig'. It seems that Debian does things differently. u can do th

Re: recompiling the kernel

2001-04-04 Thread Daniel Freedman
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001, Ted Gervais wrote: > > I want to make some changes to my kernel in my newly installed debian system > and am used to going to the directory where the kernel source is located and > typing 'make menuconfig'. It seems that Debian does things differently. > > How is this don

recompiling the kernel

2001-04-04 Thread Ted Gervais
I want to make some changes to my kernel in my newly installed debian system and am used to going to the directory where the kernel source is located and typing 'make menuconfig'. It seems that Debian does things differently. How is this done in Debian. I hope I don't have to put the CDrom back

Re: Recompiling the kernel.

2000-11-26 Thread Brian McGroarty
On Sun, Nov 26, 2000 at 12:16:10PM +, Adam Langley wrote: > On Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 09:56:46PM -0300, Ariel Manzur wrote: > > is it possible to get a configuration file for the > > current kernel, to load on menuconfig, so I can modify the configuration > > from there? > > Here's mine - I hope

Re: Recompiling the kernel.

2000-11-26 Thread Adam Langley
On Sat, Nov 25, 2000 at 09:56:46PM -0300, Ariel Manzur wrote: > is it possible to get a configuration file for the > current kernel, to load on menuconfig, so I can modify the configuration > from there? Here's mine - I hope it works for you. AGL -- In an orderly world, there's always a place f

Recompiling the kernel.

2000-11-26 Thread Ariel Manzur
Hi. I'm using the kernel that comes with debian 2.2, but I need to recompile it so I can use an ATAPI CD-RW drive. I've downloaded the source, but I can't go through all of the options on the configuration, because I always miss a detail and the kernel doesn't work (tried 2 times alredy :( So I wa

Re: REcompiling the kernel on non root partition.

2000-11-13 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 01:27:49PM +1100, Kieren Diment wrote: > Due to lack of disk space I am having trouble recompiling my kernel. > my system lives on hda2, and I want to use my redundant vfat partition > on hda1 to recompile the kernel > When I > tar -x -f kernel-source-2.2.17.tar > >

REcompiling the kernel on non root partition.

2000-11-13 Thread Kieren Diment
Due to lack of disk space I am having trouble recompiling my kernel. my system lives on hda2, and I want to use my redundant vfat partition on hda1 to recompile the kernel When I tar -x -f kernel-source-2.2.17.tar I get the following error: tar: kernel-source-2.2.17/include/asm: Cannot

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