Re: Installing TeX/LaTeX in Sarge

2007-03-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-02-21 12:25:06, schrieb Kevin Mark: > Hi Michelle, > I have 2 suggestions: > I wanted to make a hard copy of the sarge installation manual. I was > able to send a pdf file to an email address assigned to a Kinko's store > (US printing chain). They were able to have it

Re: Xfree86 problems, sarge/woody

2007-03-02 Thread Arlie Stephens
On Mar 02 2007, Wackojacko wrote: > > Arlie Stephens wrote: > > >The complaint is that it fails to find a framebuffer, regardless of > >which answer I give to the question of whether or not to use the > >kernel's framebuffer. > > Have you tried manually editing the file? Comment out the UseFBD

Re: Xfree86 problems, sarge/woody

2007-03-02 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 07:56 -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote: > The complaint is that it fails to find a framebuffer, regardless of > which answer I give to the question of whether or not to use the > kernel's framebuffer. I (stupidly) failed to save the XF86Config file > before starting, but the curren

Re: Xfree86 problems, sarge/woody

2007-03-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 07:56:27AM -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote: > Hi All, HI [...] > > X was running after that first stage of the upgrade (to latest woody) > but would not restart once I rebooted the system. I went ahead and > upgraded to sarge anyway, figuring I might get l

Re: Xfree86 problems, sarge/woody

2007-03-02 Thread Wackojacko
Arlie Stephens wrote: The complaint is that it fails to find a framebuffer, regardless of which answer I give to the question of whether or not to use the kernel's framebuffer. Have you tried manually editing the file? Comment out the UseFBDev option below. There are two other modules not

Xfree86 problems, sarge/woody

2007-03-02 Thread Arlie Stephens
Hi All, You folks were so helpful with my last problem, I thought I'd impose on your patience once again with the next one downstream. Two nights ago I (finally) upgraded an elderly system from woody to sarge. X stopped working. Moreover, it seems to have stopped working not during the up

Re: Upgrades vs Reinstalls (was Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem)

2007-03-02 Thread Michael M.
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 23:17 -0800, Arlie Stephens wrote: > Well, I'm not exactly the world's most experienced systems > administrator - in fact, the term "incompetent amateur" is perhaps > more like it ;-) So it might be a bit more onerous for me than for > others. I've been running Etch for so

Re: Upgrades vs Reinstalls (was Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem)

2007-03-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/02/07 01:17, Arlie Stephens wrote: > On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] >> Now, you've got to upgrade from Woody to Sarge and then soon >> upgrade from Sarge to Etch. That 2-step process is much slower >> an

Solved: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Arlie Stephens
On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: > > The problem - I tried to upgrade an elderly system from woody to > > sarge. Now it doesn't boot. I suspect the upgrade ate the master boot > > record - but I don't even know the

Upgrades vs Reinstalls (was Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem)

2007-03-01 Thread Arlie Stephens
t least when going from woody to sarge, though they have successfully upgraded a few non-critical systems. (I got the impression that upgrades were too exciting to do on anything where there was any time criticality.) That's also what I've done, 3 times out of 4 - create the new box

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
>> Etch, wiping out (before, of course, saving all mods from /etc...) >> everything except /home. > > *sigh* You are the second person to suggest in effect never actually > upgrading a debian system, We'd *never* say that. >or at least never g

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Arlie Stephens
e. *sigh* You are the second person to suggest in effect never actually upgrading a debian system, or at least never going from woody to sarge. I'd be much happier is this had happened *after* etch became officially stable. There's been a lot of churn in the last month or so, and I'

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 18:22, Arlie Stephens wrote: > On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: > [snip] > I'll make one tonight, and try re-installing LILO. > Then I'll doubtless be on to the next problem, but it's a stage

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Arlie Stephens
On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: > > The problem - I tried to upgrade an elderly system from woody to > > sarge. Now it doesn't boot. I suspect the upgrade ate the master boot > > record - but I don't even know the

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I'm hoping the collective wisdom of this list can point me at the > right TFM. I'm also somewhat inclined to vent. > > The problem - I tried to upgrade an elderly

sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Arlie Stephens
Hi Folks, I'm hoping the collective wisdom of this list can point me at the right TFM. I'm also somewhat inclined to vent. The problem - I tried to upgrade an elderly system from woody to sarge. Now it doesn't boot. I suspect the upgrade ate the master boot record - but I don&

Is there something wrong with the sarge archive?

2007-02-27 Thread ss11223
my debmirror won't mirror the sarge archive currently. I get: Get Release files. http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release => [0%] Getting: dists/sarge/Release... 200 OK ok http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg => [0%] Getting: dists/sarge/Release.gpg... 20

Docbook xmlto pdf fails on sarge

2007-02-26 Thread cga2000
but I have tried the same on a basic document of the "Hello World" type and the results are the same. So if anyone with a debian sarge system could advise I would appreciate. I am currently building a debian etch system on another set of partitions so if this is a bug t

Re: Installing TeX/LaTeX in Sarge

2007-02-21 Thread Russell L. Harris
Hi again, Michelle. I think that, for such a long document (2500 pages, 11 volumes), LaTeX makes very good sense. Using the LaTeX "\include" directive, you could keep each volume in a separate file, and yet LaTeX would process the set of files as one large document. And LaTeX provides valuabl

Re: Installing TeX/LaTeX in Sarge

2007-02-21 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070221 11:14]: > Hello Russel, > > Now I have to build a collection of three editons (de, en, fr) of > Education-Books of each 2500 Pages which will be splitted into 11 > volumes. > > I do not know, wheter TeX is the right way to go, but I need at the end >

Re: Installing TeX/LaTeX in Sarge

2007-02-21 Thread Kevin Mark
DF > HOW-TO-WRITE-THE-DOC? > > 3) Can you recommend Books? > (I live in Strasbourg but prefer to buy books in Germany since > they are cheaper there and i can get english versions if german > ones are not suitable) Hi Michelle, I have 2 suggestions: I wanted to ma

Re: Installing TeX/LaTeX in Sarge

2007-02-21 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Russel, Am 2007-02-17 10:57:36, schrieb Russell L. Harris: > If you install the Debian TeXLive package, you should find that LaTeX > works as it formerly did in TeTeX. I am running TeTeX under Etch on > one i386 machine, and TeXLive under Etch on another i386 machine, and > I have not seen

Re: Does Tracker packages run in Sarge or Etch?

2007-02-21 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On 2/18/07, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Has anyone ever tried installing Tracker on Sarge? If so, is it a smooth install or does one has to backport some stuff, or does one need to install loads of stuff from Etch or Sid. Tracker is an desktop indexer (like

Re: Installing TeX/LaTeX in Sarge

2007-02-20 Thread John Stoffel
Sjoerd> What to install when you would like to give TeX/LaTeX a try? tetex is the package you want to use. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sarge: can't change modules.conf, and can't change it the other way either

2007-02-19 Thread Carl Fink
So, after not looking at it for literally years, I want to have apache load some more modules. I go to edit modules.conf and the top says: # Autogenerated file - do not edit! # This file is maintained by the apache package. # To update it, run the command: #/usr/sbin/modules-config apache O

Re: Installing TeX/LaTeX in Sarge

2007-02-19 Thread Chris Bannister
; I have not seen any difference in behaviour or performance. > > If it happens that TeXLive is not available for Sarge, then install > TeTeX. But when you upgrade to Etch, you need to install TeXLive. I thought texlive was going to be the default for Lenny. Etch has tetex 3.0, and there i

Does Tracker packages run in Sarge or Etch?

2007-02-18 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
Hi, Has anyone ever tried installing Tracker on Sarge? If so, is it a smooth install or does one has to backport some stuff, or does one need to install loads of stuff from Etch or Sid. Tracker is an desktop indexer (like Beagle), among other things. It would be nice if would try it out (visit

Re: etch/sarge /dev/null not redable

2007-02-17 Thread Steve Kemp
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 06:54:01PM +0100, Thomas Fazekas wrote: > I suspect that means udev is not installed. > Moreover > /etc/udev/permissions.rules (or /etc/udev) doesn't exist OK in that case I would suggest installing it - although just before doing so I'd check that you're not using hotp

Re: etch/sarge /dev/null not redable

2007-02-17 Thread Thomas Fazekas
d /dev/null problem in both etch and > sarge installed > on XEN machines. Namely the /dev/ull permissions look like crw-rw. > AFAIK udev is not installed (I'm not sure how to check that...) > As a matter of fact I have the same behaviour with /dev/urandom... I'm p

Re: etch/sarge /dev/null not redable

2007-02-17 Thread Steve Kemp
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 06:07:28PM +0100, Thomas Fazekas wrote: > I'm having the following weird /dev/null problem in both etch and > sarge installed > on XEN machines. Namely the /dev/ull permissions look like crw-rw. > AFAIK udev is not installed (I'm not sure how to

etch/sarge /dev/null not redable

2007-02-17 Thread Thomas Fazekas
I'm having the following weird /dev/null problem in both etch and sarge installed on XEN machines. Namely the /dev/ull permissions look like crw-rw. I've tried changing the permissions with chmod 666 /dev/null Also tried recreating the device with the right permissions mknod /dev/

Re: Installing TeX/LaTeX in Sarge

2007-02-17 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Sjoerd Hiemstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070217 10:42]: > Running Sarge. > What to install when you would like to give TeX/LaTeX a try? > > In Synaptic I see something named latex209-base, but it says: > LaTeX 2.09 is obsolete. Use LaTeX 2e. > But there's no package cal

Installing TeX/LaTeX in Sarge

2007-02-17 Thread Sjoerd Hiemstra
Hi, Running Sarge. What to install when you would like to give TeX/LaTeX a try? In Synaptic I see something named latex209-base, but it says: LaTeX 2.09 is obsolete. Use LaTeX 2e. But there's no package called latex2e or something, nor do I see anything else that looks like it could be the

Sarge to Etch upgrade issues. Reporting wierdness: Any Others??

2007-02-16 Thread John W. Foster
I had Sarge installed on two drives in the same production machine for since it became stable. I use one drive to test new software and configurations. The other drive is used as a web server . I do what I am planning on the test server drive & if I have no problems I reboot & switc

Re: Etch and Sarge X-server failures on two different boxes the same day

2007-02-16 Thread Ken Heard
tal boot-up, both the > avahi-daemon, whatever that is, and the HP linux printing and imaging > system failed to load. > > To make matters worse, an hour later I booted my desktop and met > with the same result: a fail-safe terminal emulator and a hung machine. > This failure happene

Re: Sarge box network connection broken

2007-02-16 Thread Ken Heard
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk> ls -lhn /etc/dhclient-script >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 0 0 6.6K 2006-12-04 10:07 /etc/dhclient-script >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk> ls -lhn /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 0 0 1.4K 2006-03-28 23:13 /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession I a

Re: Sarge box network connection broken

2007-02-16 Thread Ken Heard
d intended to create a new thread, only to discover that a "reply" message stays attached to the same thread even if the title is changed. When I discovered my mistake I created a new thread. This message is attached to that new thread. I am not sure that the two problems I encountered, broken Xserver on two computers and inability to connect to the network are not connected. See my post today to my original thread "Etch and Sarge X-server failures on two different boxes the same day. Ken -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: My Sarge box no longer,connects to the network

2007-02-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:54:24 -0500 Ken Heard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Ifconfig only reports the loop back IP address. The IP address > >> assigned by the gateway, 192.168.0.114, was not reported by > >> ifconfig, presumably because the operating system cannot connect > >> to the networ

Re: Sarge on AMD64 (was Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB)

2007-02-15 Thread Ron Johnson
best for partitions above >>> 600GB? >>> I am considering XFS. The System is Debian Sarge for amd64. >> Why? Sarge on that is definitely not supported. You should >> definitely go with Etch. >> > Why would Sarge not be supported on that? Because the AMD64 tree

Re: Sarge on AMD64 (was Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB)

2007-02-15 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 02:04:41PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/15/07 12:51, Siju George wrote: >>> I am considering XFS. The System is Debian Sarge for amd64. >> Why? Sarge on that is definitely not supported. You should >> def

Re: size related questions for file system types (was Re: Sarge on AMD64 (was Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB))

2007-02-15 Thread Bob McGowan
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/15/07 12:51, Siju George wrote: Hi, Could some one recommend which File System is best for partitions above 600GB? I am considering XFS. The System is Debian Sarge for amd64. Why? Sarge on that is definitely not

Re: Sarge on AMD64 (was Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB)

2007-02-15 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 02:04:41PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/15/07 12:51, Siju George wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Could some one recommend which File System is best for partitions above > > 600GB? > > I am considering XFS. The System is Debian Sarge for a

Sarge on AMD64 (was Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB)

2007-02-15 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/15/07 12:51, Siju George wrote: > Hi, > > Could some one recommend which File System is best for partitions above > 600GB? > I am considering XFS. The System is Debian Sarge for amd64. Why? Sarge on that is definitely not

Re: plase help me install printer debian-sarge

2007-02-14 Thread Clive Menzies
On (13/02/07 18:54), Tuani Panggabean wrote: > plase help me install printer debian-sarge. > speck printer Hp laser-jet 1320 > posision printer : ipaddress 192.168.10.9) > thanks > This document will help you: http://excess.org/docs/linux_windows_printing.html Although it re

Re: plase help me install printer debian-sarge

2007-02-14 Thread csanyipal
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:12:30AM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Tuani Panggabean wrote: > > plase help me install printer debian-sarge. > > speck printer Hp laser-jet 1320 > > posision printer : ipaddress 192.168.10.9) > > thanks > > If you really need

Re: plase help me install printer debian-sarge

2007-02-14 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Tuani Panggabean wrote: > plase help me install printer debian-sarge. > speck printer Hp laser-jet 1320 > posision printer : ipaddress 192.168.10.9) > thanks If you really need help on this you should consider taking some of the advice from http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questi

Re: Sarge box network connection broken

2007-02-13 Thread Kent West
Ken Heard wrote: > Kent West wrote: > >>> What happens when you run "/etc/init.d/networking restart"? >>> > > Returned: > > Setting up IP spoofing protection: rp_filter. > Reconfiguring network interfaces...Failed to bring up eth0. > done. > > Then a series of messages scrolle

Re: Etch and Sarge X-server failures on two different boxes the same day

2007-02-13 Thread Marty
worse, an hour later I booted my desktop and met with the same result: a fail-safe terminal emulator and a hung machine. This failure happened to a P4 box on which I had installed Sarge and KDE in June 2005 when Sarge first came out. Other than a few glitches encountered on initial installation

Sarge box network connection broken

2007-02-13 Thread Ken Heard
Kent West wrote: >>> >>> Run "ifconfig" and see if you have an expected IP address; my first >>> >>> suspicion is that zeroconf got installed; it tends to cause problems >>> >>> with networking. Ken Heard replied: >> >> Ifconfig only reports the loop back IP address. The IP address >> >> as

My Sarge box no longer,connects to the network

2007-02-13 Thread Ken Heard
Kent West wrote: >>> Run "ifconfig" and see if you have an expected IP address; my first >>> suspicion is that zeroconf got installed; it tends to cause problems >>> with networking. Ken Heard replied: >> Ifconfig only reports the loop back IP address. The IP address >> assigned by the gate

plase help me install printer debian-sarge

2007-02-13 Thread Tuani Panggabean
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My Sarge box no longer,connects to the network

2007-02-13 Thread Ken Heard
Kent West wrote: >>> Run "ifconfig" and see if you have an expected IP address; my first >>> suspicion is that zeroconf got installed; it tends to cause problems >>> with networking. Ken Heard replied: >> Ifconfig only reports the loop back IP address. The IP address >> assigned by the gate

Re: Etch and Sarge X-server failures on two different boxes the same day

2007-02-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 03:56:04PM -0500, Ken Heard wrote: > Then, on 6 February -- completely out of the blue -- I booted the > computer, which I had set to log on automatically to my user. Instead > however of seeing the KDE desktop, I got an xterm screen, which I > assumed was a fail-safe xterm

Etch and Sarge X-server failures on two different boxes the same day

2007-02-11 Thread Ken Heard
ter I booted my desktop and met with the same result: a fail-safe terminal emulator and a hung machine. This failure happened to a P4 box on which I had installed Sarge and KDE in June 2005 when Sarge first came out. Other than a few glitches encountered on initial installation, it has worked perfe

Re: Sound on Sarge r4 - Realtek ALC888 chip

2007-02-07 Thread Anthony Campbell
t; >>(a Realtek ALC888 chip) and I was hoping to use Alsa for > >>the first time. There's virtually nothing on the 'net about > >>this chip and literally nothing that helps me. > >> > >>Does anyone know the driver/s required? > >> > &g

Re: Sound on Sarge r4 - Realtek ALC888 chip

2007-02-07 Thread john gennard
'net about this chip and literally nothing that helps me. Does anyone know the driver/s required? I've installed Kubuntu alongside Sarge and it (Kubuntu) automatically provides working sound on install. However, I can't see how it achieves this. The Motherboard incidentally is an

Re: Sound on Sarge r4 - Realtek ALC888 chip

2007-02-06 Thread Bruno Buys
t this chip and literally nothing that helps me. Does anyone know the driver/s required? I've installed Kubuntu alongside Sarge and it (Kubuntu) automatically provides working sound on install. However, I can't see how it achieves this. The Motherboard incidentally is an Asrock 775Dual-VSTA

Sound on Sarge r4 - Realtek ALC888 chip

2007-02-06 Thread john gennard
lly nothing that helps me. Does anyone know the driver/s required? I've installed Kubuntu alongside Sarge and it (Kubuntu) automatically provides working sound on install. However, I can't see how it achieves this. The Motherboard incidentally is an Asrock 775Dual-VSTA. John. -- To UNS

Re: The Final Frontier. Upgrading Sarge to Etch

2007-02-04 Thread Nigel Henry
On Friday 02 February 2007 22:38, Nigel Henry wrote: > I have 3 Debian installs apart from Kubuntu. Each one was originally > installed from Woody 3.0r2 cdroms. All 3 were upgraded to Sarge which was > on testing at the time (there were a few problems). When Sarge went stable > I k

Re: The Final Frontier. Upgrading Sarge to Etch

2007-02-03 Thread hendrik
hat happens, you won't need to reinstall. -- hendrik > > > Dave Sherohman wrote: > >On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 07:43:31AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>Backup is essential. I've tried to do an upgrade from sarge to etch > >>several times over the past

Re: New server: Sarge or Etch?

2007-02-03 Thread Andy Smith
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 09:33:03AM +, Marco De Vitis wrote: > in the next few days I'll have to replace an old server running Debian > Sarge with a new machine, and I was wondering: maybe I should directly > install Etch on it, now that it almost reached its "stable"

Re: New server: Sarge or Etch?

2007-02-03 Thread Shams Fantar
Michael Ott a écrit : Hello Marco! in the next few days I'll have to replace an old server running Debian Sarge with a new machine, and I was wondering: maybe I should directly install Etch on it, now that it almost reached its "stable" status? I know I could install

Re: New server: Sarge or Etch?

2007-02-03 Thread Marco De Vitis
On 03/02/2007 14:40, Marko Randjelovic wrote: You can check bug reports to see if packages you are using are affected with some bugs that can cause you problems. Etch is not quite stable, look at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/. Sarge had less than 10 Thanks, this can be a good

Re: Mysql on Sarge

2007-02-03 Thread Guillermo Garron
On 1/30/07, Joe Tannenbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I loaded Sarge with php and mysql and got php4 and mysql-4 I updated php to php5 and it seems ok I updated mysql to mysql-5.0, but though apt-get says I have the 5.0 client and not the 4.1, my info page and mysql-admin says the

Re: The Final Frontier. Upgrading Sarge to Etch

2007-02-03 Thread tony mollica
, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Backup is essential. I've tried to do an upgrade from sarge to etch several times over the past year, and have yet to do one that resulted in a working system. I found a new install works better, but even there I have problems. Funny, I thought one of the big

Re: The Final Frontier. Upgrading Sarge to Etch

2007-02-03 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 07:43:31AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Backup is essential. I've tried to do an upgrade from sarge to etch > several times over the past year, and have yet to do one that resulted > in a working system. I found a new install works better, but even t

Re: New server: Sarge or Etch?

2007-02-03 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
t is a production server, I would not take any chances and just go with sarge. Only if sarge does not work for your case or if you need some feature which is exclusively supported in Etch, then I would install etch. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.people.cornell.edu/

Re: New server: Sarge or Etch?

2007-02-03 Thread Marko Randjelovic
Marco De Vitis wrote: Hi, in the next few days I'll have to replace an old server running Debian Sarge with a new machine, and I was wondering: maybe I should directly install Etch on it, now that it almost reached its "stable" status? I know I could install Sarge and then

Re: The Final Frontier. Upgrading Sarge to Etch

2007-02-03 Thread hendrik
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 10:38:43PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > I have 3 Debian installs apart from Kubuntu. Each one was originally > installed > from Woody 3.0r2 cdroms. All 3 were upgraded to Sarge which was on testing at > the time (there were a few problems). When Sarge went sta

Re: New server: Sarge or Etch?

2007-02-03 Thread Michael Ott
Hello Marco! > in the next few days I'll have to replace an old server running Debian Sarge > with a new machine, > and I was wondering: maybe I should directly install Etch on it, now that it > almost reached its > "stable" status? > > I know I could in

Re: New server: Sarge or Etch?

2007-02-03 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 09:33:03AM +, Marco De Vitis wrote: > Hi, > in the next few days I'll have to replace an old server running Debian > Sarge with a new machine, and I was wondering: maybe I should directly > install Etch on it, now that it almost reached its "s

Re: sarge freezes after failure of raid disk, incurring fs corruption on unrelated disk

2007-02-03 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.02.02.1403 +0100]: > Is it common, that a failure of a raid disk leads to a system freeze, > even though the affected drive is _NOT_ part of / or any FSH directory? I bet you this is an issue with hardware, and x86 notoriously sucks at that

New server: Sarge or Etch?

2007-02-03 Thread Marco De Vitis
Hi, in the next few days I'll have to replace an old server running Debian Sarge with a new machine, and I was wondering: maybe I should directly install Etch on it, now that it almost reached its "stable" status? I know I could install Sarge and then upgrade to Etch afterwards,

New server: Sarge or Etch?

2007-02-03 Thread Marco De Vitis
Hi, in the next few days I'll have to replace an old server running Debian Sarge with a new machine, and I was wondering: maybe I should directly install Etch on it, now that it almost reached its "stable" status? I know I could install Sarge and then upgrade to Etch af

Re: The Final Frontier. Upgrading Sarge to Etch

2007-02-03 Thread Chris Lale
Nigel Henry wrote: [...] One Sarge install I'm about to change from Sarge to Etch, which is the one I'm attempting to upgrade to Etch. This will be fun. I've copied /etc/cache/apt/archives from etch to the sarge install that I'm going to upgrade, so as to to save a bit o

Re: The Final Frontier. Upgrading Sarge to Etch

2007-02-02 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 10:38:43PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > I'd love to have a backup of the Sarge install, but have never been quite > sure how to take it . I've read a bit about rdiff, but have never tried it. Please have a backup of _your_ data (e.g. /home). Tar it. Th

The Final Frontier. Upgrading Sarge to Etch

2007-02-02 Thread Nigel Henry
I have 3 Debian installs apart from Kubuntu. Each one was originally installed from Woody 3.0r2 cdroms. All 3 were upgraded to Sarge which was on testing at the time (there were a few problems). When Sarge went stable I kept 2 of the installs on stable, and the 3rd I left on testing, which is

Re: sarge freezes after failure of raid disk, incurring fs corruption on unrelated disk

2007-02-02 Thread hendrik
ene:~# uname -a > Linux athene 2.6.8-3-k7 #1 Tue Dec 5 23:58:25 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux I don't think so. In any case, I didn't know you were running sarge. As far as I know, sarge is pre-disaster. > > >> Here are my questions: > >> > >> Is it save to

Re: sarge freezes after failure of raid disk, incurring fs corruption on unrelated disk

2007-02-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 02:03:16PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > First the good news: after some repairs, the system appears to be > 'clean' again, running as usual. > > The box has three hard disks: /dev/hda with the root partition and > /dev/hdb and /dev/hdd with a raid1 for data. I agree

Re: sarge freezes after failure of raid disk, incurring fs corruption on unrelated disk

2007-02-02 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > These messages look similar -- but not identical -- to the ones I had > while installing an etch system -- and eventually I came to suspect the > file-system-damage bug in the Debian 2.6.18-3 kernel (sometimes > because of a race condition a buffer is not written to ha

Re: sarge freezes after failure of raid disk, incurring fs corruption on unrelated disk

2007-02-02 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > Personally, I run something like samhain, not so much to check for > intrusion as to monitor data integrity. > > I wonder if the failed /dev/hdb took out the controller (ide0) and so /dev/hda > got corrupted. No idea how to figure that out. > Its too bad that your sy

Re: sarge freezes after failure of raid disk, incurring fs corruption on unrelated disk

2007-02-02 Thread hendrik
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 02:03:16PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > First the good news: after some repairs, the system appears to be > 'clean' again, running as usual. > > The box has three hard disks: /dev/hda with the root partition and > /dev/hdb and /dev/hdd with a raid1 for data. > > /--

Re: sarge freezes after failure of raid disk, incurring fs corruption on unrelated disk

2007-02-02 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 02:03:16PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > First the good news: after some repairs, the system appears to be > 'clean' again, running as usual. > > The box has three hard disks: /dev/hda with the root partition and > /dev/hdb and /dev/hdd with a raid1 for data. > > Y

sarge freezes after failure of raid disk, incurring fs corruption on unrelated disk

2007-02-02 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
First the good news: after some repairs, the system appears to be 'clean' again, running as usual. The box has three hard disks: /dev/hda with the root partition and /dev/hdb and /dev/hdd with a raid1 for data. /--- athene:~# mount /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) proc on /proc typ

Re: Problem with ATI Radeon 9200SE on Sarge

2007-01-31 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
d i can't get 3d acceleration. > >> > I'm using Debian Sarge (3.1r4) with kernel 2.4.27 and XFree86 4.3.0. > >> > glxinfo gives me "OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect" > >> > What i have to do to get my card working? > >> >

Re: Problem with ATI Radeon 9200SE on Sarge

2007-01-31 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 06:42:53AM +0100, Jonathan Kaye wrote: >> Bruno Vane wrote: >> >> > Hello, >> > I have an ATI 9200SE card and i can't get 3d acceleration. >> > I'm using Debian Sarge (3.1r4) with ke

Re: Where to get php *4.4* for sarge?

2007-01-30 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 11:53:59PM +0100, Erik Persson wrote: > I need php 4.4 for sarge but i can't find it. > Does anyone know where to get it? > > It doesn't *seem* to be at backports! > > php 5 will not do, neither will php 4.3!! > You can alw

Where to get php *4.4* for sarge?

2007-01-30 Thread Erik Persson
I need php 4.4 for sarge but i can't find it. Does anyone know where to get it? It doesn't *seem* to be at backports! php 5 will not do, neither will php 4.3!! Thanks! Erik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mysql on Sarge

2007-01-30 Thread Joe Tannenbaum
Hello, I loaded Sarge with php and mysql and got php4 and mysql-4 I updated php to php5 and it seems ok I updated mysql to mysql-5.0, but though apt-get says I have the 5.0 client and not the 4.1, my info page and mysql-admin says the client is 4.1!!?? How can I fix this? Any help appreciated

Re: Problem with ATI Radeon 9200SE on Sarge

2007-01-30 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 06:42:53AM +0100, Jonathan Kaye wrote: > Bruno Vane wrote: > > > Hello, > > I have an ATI 9200SE card and i can't get 3d acceleration. > > I'm using Debian Sarge (3.1r4) with kernel 2.4.27 and XFree86 4.3.0. > > glxinfo gives me &q

Re: After Sarge->Etch update: Computer doesn't boot. Wife unhappy.

2007-01-30 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 10:08:14AM +0100, Dan H. wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Could it be assigning names (hda, hdc, sda, sdc, etc) differently at > > different boots? > > It not only could be, that's what it was. I had to change hdc to hdg > after the upgrade (both in the kernel boot

Re: After Sarge->Etch update: Computer doesn't boot. Wife unhappy.

2007-01-30 Thread Dan H.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Could it be assigning names (hda, hdc, sda, sdc, etc) differently at > different boots? It not only could be, that's what it was. I had to change hdc to hdg after the upgrade (both in the kernel boot line and in fstab, of

Re: After Sarge->Etch update: Computer doesn't boot. Wife unhappy.

2007-01-30 Thread Dan H.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Could it be assigning names (hda, hdc, sda, sdc, etc) differently at > different boots? It not only could be, that's what it was. I had to change hdc to hdg after the upgrade (both in the kernel boot line and in fstab, of

Re: Problem with ATI Radeon 9200SE on Sarge

2007-01-29 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Bruno Vane wrote: > Hello, > I have an ATI 9200SE card and i can't get 3d acceleration. > I'm using Debian Sarge (3.1r4) with kernel 2.4.27 and XFree86 4.3.0. > glxinfo gives me "OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect" > What i have to do to get my card wo

Problem with ATI Radeon 9200SE on Sarge

2007-01-29 Thread Bruno Vane
Hello, I have an ATI 9200SE card and i can't get 3d acceleration. I'm using Debian Sarge (3.1r4) with kernel 2.4.27 and XFree86 4.3.0. glxinfo gives me "OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect" What i have to do to get my card working? Thanks in advice. -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: After Sarge->Etch update: Computer doesn't boot. Wife unhappy.

2007-01-29 Thread hendrik
On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 09:06:31AM +0100, Daniel Haude wrote: > Hello, > > After I did a sarge->etch update on the weekend the machine frequenty > hangs during bootup with the message: waiting for root filesystem. All I > can do is type "reboot" at the (initramfs)

Re: After Sarge->Etch update: Computer doesn't boot. Wife unhappy.

2007-01-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 09:06:31AM +0100, Daniel Haude wrote: > Hello, > > After I did a sarge->etch update on the weekend the machine frequenty > hangs during bootup with the message: waiting for root filesystem. All I > can do is type "reboot" at the (initramfs)

Re: After Sarge->Etch update: Computer doesn't boot. Wife unhappy.

2007-01-29 Thread Clive Menzies
On (29/01/07 09:57), Dan H. wrote: > Zach wrote: > > Do you research der physik? Maybe you installed a new kernel or before > > you did not use initrd and now it is expecting to find the initrd > > entry in your boot loader but you don't have it. Try a rescue disk and > > then mount your root files

Re: After Sarge->Etch update: Computer doesn't boot. Wife unhappy.

2007-01-29 Thread Dan H.
Zach wrote: > Do you research der physik? Maybe you installed a new kernel or before > you did not use initrd and now it is expecting to find the initrd > entry in your boot loader but you don't have it. Try a rescue disk and > then mount your root filesystem with chroot. Also can try at boot > pr

Re: stable 3.1 (sarge) or testing 4.0 (etch) for a new user?

2007-01-29 Thread Chris Lale
Marc Shapiro wrote: [...] A number of people reported problems with the upgrade from XFree86 to Xorg and to using udev. It might be better to start with Etch and just leave it at that. I did a clean install of Etch, myself (for the first time since Bo). I did it for other reasons, actuall

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