Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-06 Thread Brian
On Wed 04 Jun 2014 at 23:56:37 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Brian wrote: Those who use startx etc have some expectation of being provided with uncomplicated correct information. The 'startx' is basically the simple way to start X and to use the system supplied defaults. Which is a good

Which file to initialize X? (was Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro)

2014-06-06 Thread Joel Roth
Brian wrote: On Wed 04 Jun 2014 at 23:56:37 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Brian wrote: Those who use startx etc have some expectation of being provided with uncomplicated correct information. The 'startx' is basically the simple way to start X and to use the system supplied

Re: Which file to initialize X? (was Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro)

2014-06-06 Thread Filip
Joel Roth jo...@pobox.com writes: I would be interested in having a summary. For my purposes, I use startx, and 'man startx' tells me to put my initializations in .xinitrc, and does not refer to any other init files. I used to have an .xsession file, which eventually stopped working.

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-05 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 12:26:15 +0200 David Dušanić ivanovne...@gmail.com wrote: I think at this point I link you to my fonts how-to for Debian (Openbox). http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=196047#p196047 Very, very nice article. Very clearly written. I'm going to try this

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-04 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: The fact though is that most users do not avoid startx or a DM. Anyone who uses xinit has gone to some trouble to avoid either of these two ways of getting X running. You would expect them to know what they are doing. But people using xinit have not gone to any trouble to avoid

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote: Vincent Lefevre wrote: Brian wrote: I looked in the place that startx and the DMs look with a default install of X. Which is not to deny your valid point. However. a user would have to put in the extra effort to use .Xdefaults-hostname or, if they know it is possible, a

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-03 Thread Brian
On Tue 03 Jun 2014 at 13:45:14 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Debian doesn't use a .Xdefaults file. brian@desktop:~$ grep -r Xresources /etc/X11/ /etc/X11/Xsession:SYSRESOURCES=/etc/X11/Xresources /etc/X11/Xsession:USRRESOURCES=$HOME/.Xresources True. But that is the default

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-03 Thread Filip
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes: I recommend using .Xresources loaded into the xrdb at start time. It makes the most general sense to me. That way customizations are a property of your $DISPLAY and not a property of your $HOME. But either works if you understand the search and merge

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-01 16:14:24 +0100, Brian wrote: On Sun 01 Jun 2014 at 10:48:17 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: You mention making an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in my home directory. Can I safely assume the slash meant either/or, rather than directory/file? I already had a .Xdefaults, but it was a config

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-02 Thread David Dušanić
You mention making an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in my home directory. Can I safely assume the slash meant either/or, rather than directory/file? I already had a .Xdefaults, but it was a config file, not a directory. Yes, the slash meant either/or. Xdefaults is the older way of doing it, I still

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-02 Thread David Dušanić
01.06.2014, 19:21, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk: On Sun 01 Jun 2014 at 13:09:11 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:  On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:18:11 +0200  David Dušanić ivanovne...@gmail.com wrote:  I would make an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in your home folder with this  e.g.:  Xft.autohint: 0  

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Jun 2014 at 10:04:29 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2014-06-01 16:14:24 +0100, Brian wrote: Debian doesn't use a .Xdefaults file. brian@desktop:~$ grep -r Xresources /etc/X11/ /etc/X11/Xsession:SYSRESOURCES=/etc/X11/Xresources

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Jun 2014 at 12:38:20 +0200, David Dušanić wrote: 01.06.2014, 19:21, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk: On Sun 01 Jun 2014 at 13:09:11 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:  On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:18:11 +0200  David Dušanić ivanovne...@gmail.com wrote:  I would make an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-02 14:11:03 +0100, Brian wrote: I looked in the place that startx and the DMs look with a default install of X. Which is not to deny your valid point. However. a user would have to put in the extra effort to use .Xdefaults-hostname or, if they know it is possible, a .Xresources

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-02 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Jun 2014 at 16:27:22 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2014-06-02 14:11:03 +0100, Brian wrote: I looked in the place that startx and the DMs look with a default install of X. Which is not to deny your valid point. However. a user would have to put in the extra effort to use

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-06-02 18:33:30 +0100, Brian wrote: Fair enough. Now, if only users were advised to use .Xdefaults-hostname or .Xresources. Instead the choice is always .Xdefaults or .Xresources. As I think we are agreed, one of these doesn't work. Ok, it can be made to work; for example I've seen

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-01 Thread David Dušanić
31.05.2014, 18:59, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com: On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 Tony Baldwin t...@tonybaldwin.info wrote:  Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last just  manages windows category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel,  which I think JWM has

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-01 Thread Pete Orrall
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 Tony Baldwin t...@tonybaldwin.info wrote: Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last just manages windows category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel, which

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:18:11 +0200 David Dušanić ivanovne...@gmail.com wrote: 31.05.2014, 18:59, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com: On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 Tony Baldwin t...@tonybaldwin.info wrote:  Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last just  manages

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 07:54:50 -0400 Pete Orrall p...@cs1x.com wrote: On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 Tony Baldwin t...@tonybaldwin.info wrote: Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last just

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-01 Thread Brian
On Sun 01 Jun 2014 at 10:48:17 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: You mention making an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in my home directory. Can I safely assume the slash meant either/or, rather than directory/file? I already had a .Xdefaults, but it was a config file, not a directory. I added your lines to

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:18:11 +0200 David Dušanić ivanovne...@gmail.com wrote: 31.05.2014, 18:59, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com: On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 Tony Baldwin t...@tonybaldwin.info wrote:  Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last just  manages

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-01 Thread Filip
wrote:  Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last just  manages windows category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel, which I think JWM has by default. You're just the person I need to talk to, Tony. Right now I've switched over from Xfce to Openbox, and like

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-06-01 Thread Brian
On Sun 01 Jun 2014 at 13:09:11 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:18:11 +0200 David Dušanić ivanovne...@gmail.com wrote: I would make an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in your home folder with this e.g.: Xft.autohint: 0 Xft.antialias: 1 Xft.hinting: true Xft.hintstyle:

Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-05-31 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 Tony Baldwin t...@tonybaldwin.info wrote: Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last just manages windows category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel, which I think JWM has by default. You're just the person I need to talk to, Tony

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-05-31 Thread Filip
On Sat, 31 May 2014 12:59:06 -0400 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 Tony Baldwin t...@tonybaldwin.info wrote: Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last just manages windows category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel

Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro

2014-05-31 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 12:59:06PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 Tony Baldwin t...@tonybaldwin.info wrote: Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last just manages windows category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel, which I think JWM

Re: Sawfish wm won't start from gdm3

2012-08-29 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:02:39 -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: I recently (finally) upgraded from lenny to squeeze. All seems well except if I choose the sawfish window manager from the gdm3 greeter, the dialog goes away and it just sits with the debian logo and the stars background. I can't find

Sawfish wm won't start from gdm3

2012-08-28 Thread Rick Macdonald
I recently (finally) upgraded from lenny to squeeze. All seems well except if I choose the sawfish window manager from the gdm3 greeter, the dialog goes away and it just sits with the debian logo and the stars background. I can't find any error messages anywhere (~/.xsession-errors). If I

sawfish wm

2009-12-23 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Installed the Sawfish window manager today - along with sawfish-themes. Picked it from the GDM login menu - and was presented with a grey screen, where nothing works...left/right/middle clicks produce nothing . What am I missing ?? - -- Frank

Re: sawfish wm

2009-12-23 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:40:32 -0500 Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Installed the Sawfish window manager today - along with sawfish-themes. Picked it from the GDM login menu

Re: Change Gnome window manager from Metacity, back to Sawfish

2007-04-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/16/07 19:03, Masatran, R. Deepak wrote: How can I change the Gnome window manager from Metacity, back to Sawfish? Why did you ask the same question twice in 15 minutes? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats

Change Gnome window manager from Metacity, back to Sawfish

2007-04-16 Thread Masatran, R. Deepak
How can I change the Gnome window manager from Metacity, back to Sawfish? -- Masatran, R. Deepak http://research.iiit.ac.in/~masatran/ pgpNxCCaegBW9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Change Gnome window manager from Metacity, back to Sawfish

2007-04-16 Thread Gabriel Parrondo
El mar, 17-04-2007 a las 05:33 +0530, Masatran, R. Deepak escribió: How can I change the Gnome window manager from Metacity, back to Sawfish? Hello! Please do not open two threads asking the same thing... at least not without having a few days with no answer. Thank you! BTW: I think you

Sawfish-ui: error message

2005-09-09 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello List, on my Etch box (daily updated) I get, when I launch sawfish-ui *** File error: No such file or directory, gui/gtk-2/gtk Any idea ? Thanks, Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: sawfish (was: gnome config metacity)

2005-07-19 Thread Adam Hardy
machines, even they using the same Homedir off a server. If your machine is significantly fast enough and you have good bandwidth, it shouldn't take long at all. OK I purged xserver-common and reinstalled and now I'm back to gnome metacity. I would like to ditch metacity for sawfish, but I can't

Re: OpenOffice Sawfish...

2004-10-11 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Sun, Oct 10, 2004 at 04:17:46PM -0700, Brent Miller wrote: When I open OpenOffice in Gnome/Sawfish, everything for the most part works fine. However, if I click on an icon on the tool bar, say Background Color in Calc, a pop-up window will open giving me a pallet to select a color from

Re: OpenOffice Sawfish...

2004-10-11 Thread Andrea Vettorello
/Sawfish, everything for the most part works fine. However, if I click on an icon on the tool bar, say Background Color in Calc, a pop-up window will open giving me a pallet to select a color from. The problem I'm having is when Sawfish is my window manager, there's no close button (X

Re: OpenOffice Sawfish...

2004-10-11 Thread Brent Miller
Andrea Vettorello wrote: I think it depends on the theme, or better, how it define the transient windows. I know this isn't a solution, but try with a different sawfish theme, like microgui... Andrea P.S. my preferred one is finalstep... Thanks, that did it! -Brent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

OpenOffice Sawfish...

2004-10-10 Thread Brent Miller
I've been googling for a solution to my problem, and although I've been finding what seems to be a troubled history between the two, I haven't been able to find an answer to my problem. When I open OpenOffice in Gnome/Sawfish, everything for the most part works fine. However, if I click

Re: OpenOffice Sawfish...

2004-10-10 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Oct 10, 2004 at 04:17:46PM -0700, Brent Miller wrote: I've been googling for a solution to my problem, and although I've been finding what seems to be a troubled history between the two, I haven't been able to find an answer to my problem. When I open OpenOffice in Gnome/Sawfish

condenado sawfish

2004-08-25 Thread cristian melgarejo
Hola ee bueno no eh podido encontrar la manera de sacar o cambiar el sawfish por metacity, estoy usando sarge, espero k me puedan ayudar. bye Cristian M. _ Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: http

Re: condenado sawfish

2004-08-25 Thread Faro
El mié, 25-08-2004 a las 09:07, cristian melgarejo escribió: Hola ee bueno no eh podido encontrar la manera de sacar o cambiar el sawfish por metacity, estoy usando sarge, espero k me puedan ayudar. abres una consola. $ killall sawfish $ metacity Al salir le dices que guarde la sesión

Re: condenado sawfish

2004-08-25 Thread cristian melgarejo
hola em eso ya lo habia intentado pero no habia resultadoasi k elimine sawfish de una y listo... metacity sin problemas xD. . gracias. adios Cristian M. gt;From: Faro lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; gt;To: Debian User Spanish lt;debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.orggt; gt;Subject

Sawfish kills gnome panel keybindings

2004-07-17 Thread Neilen Marais
Hi! I'm using sarge, with the current gnome2 packages. When I run sawfish, alt-f1 and alt-f2 stop working for popping up the gnome menu, and gome-run command. I do have a bunch of custom keybindings defined in sawfish, but none of them use alt-f1 or alt-f2. Deleting my .sawfish directory

sawfish popup-apps-menu problem

2004-07-12 Thread
Hi, I am using Debian sarge, and got a problem with sawfish after a system upgrading. I bound the 'popup-apps-menu' function with the 'menu' key. It worked nicely. The complete apps menu can pops up including the Debian menu in it when I pressed the menu key. But things changed after a system

SID: Probleme mit Metacity/Sawfish

2004-07-05 Thread Thomas Reuss
Fenstern und der Rahmen, der das jeweilige Fenster aktivieren soll springt auch weiter. Habe schließlich versucht, via update-alternatives zu Sawfish zu wechseln - mit dem Ergebnis, dass ich dann Gnome ohne WindowManager sehe. Was läuft da falsch? Danke schonmal! Thomas -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und

Re: SID: Probleme mit Metacity/Sawfish

2004-07-05 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2004-07-05 Thomas Reuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ich nutze unter Debian/Sid Gnome 2.6.1 mit Metacity als WindowManager. Seit ein paar Wochen kann ich nicht mehr mit ALT-TAB zwischen Fenstern wechseln - obwohl ALT-TAB sehr wohl unter Tastenkombinationen richtig belegt ist. [...]

Re: SID: Probleme mit Metacity/Sawfish

2004-07-05 Thread Rainer Bendig, Digitally Impressed
Hossa Andreas, *, Andreas Metzler schrieb am 05.07.2004 12:06: Du willst auf xlibs 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 downgraden. cu andreas nein will er nicht er will sich diesen patch [1] einspielen ... [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2004/06/msg00603.html -- so long, Rainer Bendig aka mindz

Re: SID: Probleme mit Metacity/Sawfish

2004-07-05 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2004-07-05 Rainer Bendig, Digitally Impressed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hossa Andreas, *, Andreas Metzler schrieb am 05.07.2004 12:06: Du willst auf xlibs 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 downgraden. nein will er nicht er will sich diesen patch [1] einspielen ... [1]

Re: SID: Probleme mit Metacity/Sawfish

2004-07-05 Thread Thomas Reuss
Rainer Bendig, Digitally Impressed wrote: nein will er nicht er will sich diesen patch [1] einspielen ... [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2004/06/msg00603.html Besten Dank! Endlich wieder ALT-TAB ... Ist ja furchtbar, sowas per Maus machen zu müssen ... ;-) Thomas -- Haeufig gestellte

menu problems after upgrading sawfish

2004-06-19 Thread Baurjan Ismagulov
Hello, I've upgraded sawfish to 1.3+cvs20040617-3, and now the programs menu contains only a few items like xterm, emacs, gv, xcalc, netscape. update-menus doesn't seem to have any effect (it worked with the previous version). I've tried a couple of suggestions from README.Debian and debian-user

kdm, sawfish and .xsession

2004-05-27 Thread Brendan Halpin
I'm trying to get kdm working with sawfish, without using kde. I've been reading the code in /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession, /etc/X11/Xsession and /etc/X11/Xsession.d/*, and my conclusion is that kdm is not meant to read ~/.xsession when it is asked to run sawfish or another window manager. (As an aside

sawfish-ersatz

2004-03-18 Thread Bernhard Kleine
hallo, noch einmal leider funktioniert der backport.org xemacs 21.4.14/5 nicht mit gnome2.2 und sawfish. was kann man als ersatz nehmen? Bernhard signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: sawfish-ersatz

2004-03-18 Thread Patrick Pletscher
Hallo, Am Don, den 18.03.2004 schrieb Bernhard Kleine um 15:11: hallo, noch einmal leider funktioniert der backport.org xemacs 21.4.14/5 nicht mit gnome2.2 und sawfish. was kann man als ersatz nehmen? In den neueren Gnome-Versionen sollte das eigentlich schon Standard sein: Metacity. Für

Re: sawfish-ersatz

2004-03-18 Thread Maurice
Patrick Pletscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In den neueren Gnome-Versionen sollte das eigentlich schon Standard sein: Metacity. Wobei Metacity, im Vergleich zu Sawfish, eher nur ein schlechter Witz ist. Da würde ich dann eher auf Gnome verzichten und wenn's denn ein Desktop-Environment sein

sawfish and UTF-8??

2004-03-15 Thread Magnus Therning
I was playing sround with locale settings and noticed that my sawfish turned ugly (title bars contained one unreadable character for each readable one) when using en_GB.utf8. Did I miss something or doesn't sawfish support unicode (yet)? /M -- Magnus Therning(OpenPGP

backport XEmacs 21.4.14 stoesst sich an sawfish

2004-01-28 Thread Bernhard Kleine
Hallo allerseits, wie oben beschrieben, laesst sich das neueste Emacs nicht mit sawfish homogenisieren. Was sind die Alternativen. Benutze woody (mit backports), Gnome 2.2 und sawfish sowie nautilus. Bernhard signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Debian Sid: Gnome nutzt statt Sawfish|Metacity openbox?!?

2004-01-07 Thread Chakaroth
Hallo! Habe seit neuestem folgendes Problem mit meinem Debian/Sid: Wenn ich eine Gnome-Session starte, dann erscheint kurz der Gnome-Splash-Screen - ich sehe noch den Vermerk, dass der Fenstermanager gestartet wird doch danach tut sich nichts mehr. Ein Rechtsklick auf den Hintergrund zaubert das

sawfish: falsche fonts

2003-11-15 Thread Johannes Paul
Hi Liste Beim Konfigurieren meines Sawfish, kriege Ich nicht richtig die Fonts die Ich will hin. Als Theme benutze Ich AquaX. Ich benutze Gnome 2.2.2 und Sawfish 1.2 Backports. Vorschläge? TIA -- Johannes Paul Resistencia - Chaco - Argentina No HTML Please! johpaul AT web DOT de

Re: sawfish debian menu compatibility?

2003-11-08 Thread andy
i have a ~/.menu directory. the file created is ~/.sawfish/lisp/debian-menu.jl. i assume that the menu is still where expected, because the popup-apps-menu keybinding still works. but the main menu doesn't seem to reference it anymore. the file /etc/X11/sawfish/site-init.d/00menu.jl looks like

sawfish debian menu compatibility?

2003-11-06 Thread andy bezella
a few sid upgrades ago (i believe starting with the recent cvs checkouts) it appears that sawfish lost compatibility (to some extent) with the debian menu system. the apps menu does not appear on the root window menu. i am still able to access it with a keybinding to popup-apps-menu, however

Re: sawfish debian menu compatibility?

2003-11-06 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:31:48AM -0600, andy bezella wrote: a few sid upgrades ago (i believe starting with the recent cvs checkouts) it appears that sawfish lost compatibility (to some extent) with the debian menu system. the apps menu does not appear on the root window menu. At some

Re: De Sawfish a Metacity

2003-11-05 Thread Quim Gil
- Sessions b.- En l'aplicacio que surt ves al tab Current Session c.- En la llista de programes busca el sawfish. Selecciona'l. Veuras que te una icona de reciclatge, i que en el menu superior diu Style: restart. Canvia l'estil a normal. Aplica el canvi (Apply) i

Re: De Sawfish a Metacity

2003-11-05 Thread Jordi Mallach
. Pasos a seguir (poso el nom dels menus en angles, perque es com ho tinc jo, suposo que no et sera dificil de seguir-ho si el tens en catala): [ometent cosa molt complicada...] En un terminal, killall sawfish metacity . Si guardes la sessió a l'eixir, s'enrecordarà. El més còmode és configurar

Re: De Sawfish a Metacity

2003-11-05 Thread Quim Gil
Abans d'enviar el missatge a la llista m'havien aconsellat la via directa que comenta en Jordi i em va passar el mateix que comenta en Jaume, no hi havia maneres de treure aquest reestart i ja havia oblidat que la configuració via menús em podria servir. :) Quim

gnome-session, sawfish problems on Apple Powerbook

2003-11-02 Thread Brendan J Simon
. Has anybody else seen these problems? Is there some broken dependencies which means I haven't got something installed which gnome needs? Also the sawfish pager sucks!!! It seems to be a normal window and if you expand it and click in some space it creates a new page. I don't like this at all

Sawfish and gnome-menu

2003-10-30 Thread Magnus Therning
I thought the package 'gnome-menu would give me an apps-menu that resembles the Gnome2 Menu Bar, but it doesn't, why? :( /M -- Magnus Therning mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +31-40-2745179 http://pww.innersource.philips.com/magnus/ OpenPGP:0x4FBB2C40 Technology lies on the leading edge of life.

Re: gnome 2.4 and sawfish weirdness

2003-10-20 Thread Simon Green
: I'm tracking unstable. After today's update/upgrade, gnome went to 2.4. Now when I switch workspaces my windows shift randomly within each workspace. I'm using sawfish as my window manager. Is anyone else experiencing the same problem? Any solutions? - Ryan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

gnome 2.4 and sawfish weirdness

2003-10-19 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
Hey folks, I'm tracking unstable. After today's update/upgrade, gnome went to 2.4. Now when I switch workspaces my windows shift randomly within each workspace. I'm using sawfish as my window manager. Is anyone else experiencing the same problem? Any solutions? - Ryan pgp0.pgp

Re: gnome 2.4 and sawfish weirdness

2003-10-19 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
workspace. I'm using sawfish as my window manager. Is anyone else experiencing the same problem? Any solutions? - Ryan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Gnome 2.2 mit sawfish

2003-09-30 Thread Ruediger Noack
Moin moin Da wir gerade bei der Konfigfragen sind... Ich habe hier auf meinem Notebook einen Gnome2.2-Backport unter woody laufen. Da ich Metacity als stockhässlich empfinde, würde ich als WM gern sawfish benutzen. Lt. update-alternatives müsste das eigentlich doch jetzt schon so sein, oder

Re: Gnome 2.2 mit sawfish

2003-09-30 Thread Philipp Meier
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 10:43:21AM +0200, Ruediger Noack wrote: Nun frage ich mich (und euch ;-) ), warum wird nicht sawfish gestartet? Wo muss ich noch drehen? Weil gnome-session sich merkt, daß Du metacity verwendest. Starte mal gnome-session-properties, schalte metacity auf normal, dann im

Re: Gnome 2.2 mit sawfish

2003-09-30 Thread Ruediger Noack
Philipp Meier wrote: Weil gnome-session sich merkt, daß Du metacity verwendest. Starte mal gnome-session-properties, schalte metacity auf normal, dann im terminal: killall metacity; sleep 3; sawfish ! Genial! Danke! Gruß Rüdiger -- -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ): http

Cycle Windows unter Sawfish/Gnome2.2

2003-09-14 Thread Claus
Hallo zusammen, mein Problem liegt darin, dass ich die Tastenkombination 'ALT+TAB' intensivst nutze und diese nun nur noch ein Fenster zurück schaltet und dann tut sich beim weiteren Drücken nichts mehr. In den Sawfish Key Bindings Einstellungen ist die Tastenkombination mit M-TAB erfasst und die

Re: Gnome2.2, Sawfish, window dramas

2003-07-13 Thread Menaka Lashitha Bandara
at the top is an edge. It's not floating. I can't understand why Sawfish doesn't deal with this correctly. Metacity used to on my x86 box, but that's stopped doing it too. Hmm... \LaShI -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 (Sid) (ibook2,powerpc), kernel 2.4.21-ben2-xfs Grub first, then ideals. -- Bertolt

Re: Gnome2.2, Sawfish, window dramas

2003-07-12 Thread SYNeR
- Original Message - From: Menaka Lashitha Bandara [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 3:16 AM Subject: Gnome2.2, Sawfish, window dramas G'day all. I run Gnome2.2 with sawfish as my favourite WM :). The only problem is that windows are placed on top

Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-04 Thread Richard Heycock
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 21:15, Gregory Seidman wrote: On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:24:05PM -0500, Todd Pytel wrote: } I noticed this also with Sarge. Looks like Sawfish is being moved to the } GNOME 2 version, which in my experience has always sucked tremendously. } Somehow, they took a nice

Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-04 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 11:22:59PM +1000, Richard Heycock wrote: } On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 21:15, Gregory Seidman wrote: [...] } How odd. I'm using sawfish from testing (i.e. sarge, i.e. version 1:1.3-2) } with GNOME2 and it works just fine. A version or two ago they broke the } configuration

Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-04 Thread Richard Heycock
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 23:51, Gregory Seidman wrote: On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 11:22:59PM +1000, Richard Heycock wrote: } On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 21:15, Gregory Seidman wrote: [...] } How odd. I'm using sawfish from testing (i.e. sarge, i.e. version 1:1.3-2) } with GNOME2 and it works just fine

Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-04 Thread Gregory Seidman
the inbuilt Xterm command. } } All the same. I don't even know how to go about debugging it. Having } said that I just tried strace'ing sawfish and guess what it works every } time. I hate stuff like this. } } So does this mean that it's not sawfish at fault, is it one of the } libraries? Mutter, Mutter

Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-04 Thread Richard Heycock
it: } } * not using a path } * using the full path } * using the inbuilt Xterm command. } } All the same. I don't even know how to go about debugging it. Having } said that I just tried strace'ing sawfish and guess what it works every } time. I hate stuff like this. } } So does this mean that it's

Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-03 Thread Richard Heycock
I use keybindings quite a lot in sawfish but I noticed recently (I think after the last upgrade but I'm not sure) that some of them don't work very well. For example I have an xterm mapped to ctrl-shift-e and when I press those keys a number things might happen: * it works, but not very

Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-03 Thread Todd Pytel
I noticed this also with Sarge. Looks like Sawfish is being moved to the GNOME 2 version, which in my experience has always sucked tremendously. Somehow, they took a nice, simple window manager that had just the right options, reduced the number of options, removed the config tool, and yet still

Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-03 Thread Richard Heycock
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 12:24, Todd Pytel wrote: I noticed this also with Sarge. Looks like Sawfish is being moved to the GNOME 2 version, which in my experience has always sucked tremendously. Somehow, they took a nice, simple window manager that had just the right options, reduced the number

Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-03 Thread Todd Pytel
Richard Heycock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I agree. I really liked the fact that you could dynamically create new virtual desktops which is of course gone. Don't think Metacity does this... that was a nifty feature, though. Metacity is intentionally minimalist, as you've seen with their

Re: Sawfish - keybinding funny.

2003-06-03 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:24:05PM -0500, Todd Pytel wrote: } I noticed this also with Sarge. Looks like Sawfish is being moved to the } GNOME 2 version, which in my experience has always sucked tremendously. } Somehow, they took a nice, simple window manager that had just the right } options

Re: sarge sawfish gnome - broken on 5/27/2003?

2003-05-31 Thread Jeremy Brooks
On Tue, 2003-05-27 at 20:32, Hanasaki JiJi wrote: Just did a dist-upgrade on sarge and gnome sawfish no longer has the panels / menus on the borders. is it broken in sarge? did i break something? Thanks I'm having a similar problem - the sawfish config tool is now missing from the gnome

Re: sarge sawfish gnome - broken on 5/27/2003?

2003-05-31 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
The views seem to be gone.. in sawfish-ui add more workspaces this will get more desktops. still wondering if its normal behavior and a enhancement to sawfish or i broke something. Jeremy Brooks wrote: On Tue, 2003-05-27 at 20:32, Hanasaki JiJi wrote: Just did a dist-upgrade on sarge

sawfish no gnome2

2003-05-20 Thread Rodrigo Gruppelli
Pessoal, como faço p/ usar o sawfish com o gnome2? Já tentei com update-alternatives --config x-window-manager, mas não funcionou. []s Rodrigo -- B08C 6AF4 6ACB 7493 DC81 1231 9A5B 3EB5 D1B0 4A1D pgp5b0OnQvqt9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Sawfish 1.3 + Gnome2 questions?

2003-04-03 Thread Gary Hennigan
Florentin Ionescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does sawfish work with gnome2 ? Except for the edge-flipping issue, which is solved thanks to the respondents, it hasn't given me any trouble with Gnome2. I'm using sawfish version 1.3 from unstable. Gary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Sawfish 1.3 + Gnome2 questions?

2003-04-02 Thread Gary Hennigan
A couple of questions for those running sid with Gnome2 and Sawfish. 1) I can't figure out how to turn edge-flipping on. That's the ability to drag a window between workspaces. I use that feature quite heavily and am loathe to use the little teeny things in the pager to try and accomplish

Re: Sawfish 1.3 + Gnome2 questions?

2003-04-02 Thread Gary Hennigan
Gary Hennigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A couple of questions for those running sid with Gnome2 and Sawfish. 1) I can't figure out how to turn edge-flipping on. That's the ability to drag a window between workspaces. [snip] I managed to get this working by manually copying the appropriate

Re: Sawfish 1.3 + Gnome2 questions?

2003-04-02 Thread Michael Heironimus
read some discussion on the edge-flipping capbility in the sawfish bugzilla database and my interpretation was that it was removed, but the discussion was from last year and a poll showed overwhelming support for the feature so I'm hoping it didn't disappear. I'm running Sawfish 1.3 with Sun's

Re: Sawfish 1.3 + Gnome2 questions?

2003-04-02 Thread Florentin Ionescu
Does sawfish work with gnome2 ? On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Gary Hennigan wrote : » Date: 02 Apr 2003 11:04:29 -0700 » From: Gary Hennigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] » To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] » Subject: Sawfish 1.3 + Gnome2 questions? » Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:04:50 -0600 (CST) » Resent-From: [EMAIL

Re: Sawfish 1.3 + Gnome2 questions?

2003-04-02 Thread Rich Rudnick
On Wed, 2003-04-02 at 10:04, Gary Hennigan wrote: A couple of questions for those running sid with Gnome2 and Sawfish. 1) I can't figure out how to turn edge-flipping on. That's the ability to drag a window between workspaces. I use that feature quite heavily and am loathe to use

Re: sawfish: removing it switches alternatives to auto mode???

2003-03-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 10:52:14PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: I had set up fvwm2 as x-window-manager (using update-alternatives) but sawfish gets repeatedly set up as default window manager which is very annoying becuase it causes window manager to exit when I try to restart it. while

Sawfish stürzt ab

2003-03-07 Thread Johannes Bauer
Hallo, ein neues Problem: Unter Gnome 1.4 verabschiedet sich reproduzierbar Sawfish, wenn man z. B. ein Fenster verschiebt. Nach aus- und wieder einloggen bleibt er manchmal verschwunden, machmal wird der Windowmanager auf twm (oh graus!) umgestellt. Reinstall bringt nichts, update

Sawfish als Gnome-wm Manager

2003-03-07 Thread Andreas Mielke
Hallo, ich benutze zur Zeit Gnome 2.2 und als Fenstermangager den Metacity. Ich möchte aber gerne wieder denn Sawfish als Gnome Fenstermanager haben. Kann mir da vielleicht jemand helfen? Viele Grüße aus Mannheim -- Andreas Mielke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten

Sawfish als Gnome-wm Manager

2003-03-07 Thread Andreas Mielke
Hallo, ich benutze zur Zeit Gnome 2.2 und als Fenstermangager den Metacity. Ich möchte aber gerne wieder denn Sawfish als Gnome Fenstermanager haben. Kann mir da vielleicht jemand helfen? Viele Grüße aus Mannheim -- Andreas Mielke [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und

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