Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 08 December 2014 19:00:36 Brian wrote: On Mon 08 Dec 2014 at 17:14:58 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 08 December 2014 16:25:51 Brian wrote: On Mon 08 Dec 2014 at 09:40:03 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: Several people in this thread (including, I think, you?) are responding

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread Joel Rees
2014/12/08 20:24 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk: On Mon 08 Dec 2014 at 10:12:55 +0100, Christian Groessler wrote: On 12/08/14 09:44, Curt wrote: On 2014-12-08, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: Actually, it's *always* a surprise. These fsck happen at long enough intervals,

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-08 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
On 08/12/2014 22:00, Brian wrote: On Mon 08 Dec 2014 at 17:14:58 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 08 December 2014 16:25:51 Brian wrote: On Mon 08 Dec 2014 at 09:40:03 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: Several people in this thread (including, I think, you?) are responding to those complaints by

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-07 Thread Curt
On 2014-12-07, seeker5528 seeker5...@comcast.net wrote: On 12/6/2014 5:58 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote: Well, it is not as if fscks happen out of the blue. Either you weren't paying attention and you were hit with the periodic fsck, or you make a habit of doing dirty shutdowns, and you know

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-07 Thread Mart van de Wege
seeker5528 seeker5...@comcast.net writes: On 12/6/2014 5:58 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote: Well, it is not as if fscks happen out of the blue. Either you weren't paying attention and you were hit with the periodic fsck, or you make a habit of doing dirty shutdowns, and you know the fsck is

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-07 Thread The Wanderer
On 12/07/2014 at 06:37 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: seeker5528 seeker5...@comcast.net writes: On 12/6/2014 5:58 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote: Well, it is not as if fscks happen out of the blue. Either you weren't paying attention and you were hit with the periodic fsck, or you make a habit

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-07 Thread Stefan Monnier
Look, if you reboot a laptop instead of suspending/hibernating it, sooner or later you're going to have to think Hmm, it hasn't fscked for a while. It shouldn't be a surprise when it does. Actually, it's *always* a surprise. These fsck happen at long enough intervals, that I can never know

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-07 Thread seeker5528
On 12/07/2014 at 06:37 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: Look, if you reboot a laptop instead of suspending/hibernating it, sooner or later you're going to have to think Hmm, it hasn't fscked for a while. It shouldn't be a surprise when it does. That brings up a whole different question about

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-06 Thread Brian
On Sat 06 Dec 2014 at 06:42:50 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 05 December 2014 23:16:47 Brian wrote: On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 19:06:50 -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:59:25 + Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: But remember our current slogan Linux is all

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-06 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 06 December 2014 09:44:38 Brian wrote: On Sat 06 Dec 2014 at 06:42:50 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 05 December 2014 23:16:47 Brian wrote: On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 19:06:50 -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:59:25 + Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-06 Thread Curt
On 2014-12-06, Jarle Aase j...@jgaa.com wrote: This is exactly the kind of arrogance that have made Windows 8 a total disaster for Microsoft. I once convinced Windows 8 to stop a forced, non-interruptible upgrade, by slamming the laptop in the table until the hard-disk died. This is a clear

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-06 Thread Brian
On Sat 06 Dec 2014 at 10:10:05 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 06 December 2014 09:44:38 Brian wrote: On Sat 06 Dec 2014 at 06:42:50 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 05 December 2014 23:16:47 Brian wrote: On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 19:06:50 -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: On Fri, 5

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-06 Thread The Wanderer
(Quoting reordered slightly to make more what-replies-to-what sense.) On 12/06/2014 at 06:27 AM, Brian wrote: On Sat 06 Dec 2014 at 10:10:05 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 06 December 2014 09:44:38 Brian wrote: His lateness and the scheduled fsck do not appear to be correlated. A

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-06 Thread The Wanderer
On 12/06/2014 at 12:27 AM, Ric Moore wrote: On 12/05/2014 05:06 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:59:25 + Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: But remember our current slogan Linux is all about choice. One can choose to boot with or without fsck.mode=skip. What

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-06 Thread Ron
On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 11:27:24 + Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: A third suggestion is to use grub's scripting to present the user with a choice of a fsck or not. Another thing to consider: lets say that the system runs fsck once every 50 reboots (figure grabbed out of thin air), and that

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-06 Thread Mart van de Wege
The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm writes: On 12/06/2014 at 12:27 AM, Ric Moore wrote: On 12/05/2014 05:06 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:59:25 + Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: But remember our current slogan Linux is all about choice. One can choose to

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-06 Thread Erwan David
Le 06/12/2014 06:27, Ric Moore a écrit : On 12/05/2014 05:06 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:59:25 + Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: But remember our current slogan Linux is all about choice. One can choose to boot with or without fsck.mode=skip. What about the

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-06 Thread Ric Moore
On 12/06/2014 02:21 PM, Erwan David wrote: Le 06/12/2014 06:27, Ric Moore a écrit : On 12/05/2014 05:06 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:59:25 + Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: But remember our current slogan Linux is all about choice. One can choose to boot with

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-06 Thread Brian
On Sat 06 Dec 2014 at 07:21:30 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: (Quoting reordered slightly to make more what-replies-to-what sense.) On 12/06/2014 at 06:27 AM, Brian wrote: On Sat 06 Dec 2014 at 10:10:05 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 06 December 2014 09:44:38 Brian wrote: His

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-06 Thread seeker5528
On 12/6/2014 5:58 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote: Well, it is not as if fscks happen out of the blue. Either you weren't paying attention and you were hit with the periodic fsck, or you make a habit of doing dirty shutdowns, and you know the fsck is going to happen anyway. Assuming your

Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-05 Thread Eduardo Nogueira
With init, skipping a scheduled fsck during boot was easy, you just pressed Ctrl+c, it was obvious! Today I was late for an online conference. I got home, turned on my computer, and systemd decided it was time to run fsck on my 1TB hard drive. Ok, I just skip it, right? Well, Ctrl+c does not work,

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-05 Thread Brian
On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 09:04:14 -0800, Eduardo Nogueira wrote: With init, skipping a scheduled fsck during boot was easy, you just pressed Ctrl+c, it was obvious! Today I was late for an online conference. I got home, turned on my computer, and systemd decided it was time to run fsck on my 1TB

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-05 Thread The Wanderer
On 12/05/2014 at 01:05 PM, Brian wrote: On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 09:04:14 -0800, Eduardo Nogueira wrote: With init, skipping a scheduled fsck during boot was easy, you just pressed Ctrl+c, it was obvious! Today I was late for an online conference. I got home, turned on my computer, and systemd

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
With init, skipping a scheduled fsck during boot was easy, you just pressed Ctrl+c, it was obvious! Today I was late for an online conference. I got home, turned on my computer, and systemd decided it was time to run fsck on my 1TB hard drive. Ok, I just skip it, right? Well, Ctrl+c does

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-05 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 12/05/2014 07:43 PM, The Wanderer wrote: On 12/05/2014 at 01:05 PM, Brian wrote: On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 09:04:14 -0800, Eduardo Nogueira wrote: With init, skipping a scheduled fsck during boot was easy, you just pressed Ctrl+c, it was obvious! Today I was late for an online conference. I

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-05 Thread Brian
On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 14:00:40 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: With init, skipping a scheduled fsck during boot was easy, you just pressed Ctrl+c, it was obvious! Today I was late for an online conference. I got home, turned on my computer, and systemd decided it was time to run fsck on my

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-05 Thread Brian
On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 13:43:32 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: On 12/05/2014 at 01:05 PM, Brian wrote: On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 09:04:14 -0800, Eduardo Nogueira wrote: With init, skipping a scheduled fsck during boot was easy, you just pressed Ctrl+c, it was obvious! Today I was late for an

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-05 Thread Ron
On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:59:25 + Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: But remember our current slogan Linux is all about choice. One can choose to boot with or without fsck.mode=skip. What about the choice to stop fsck it if it has started at an inconvenient moment ? Cheers, Ron. --

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-05 Thread Brian
On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 19:06:50 -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:59:25 + Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: But remember our current slogan Linux is all about choice. One can choose to boot with or without fsck.mode=skip. What about the choice to stop fsck it if it

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-05 Thread Ric Moore
On 12/05/2014 05:06 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:59:25 + Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: But remember our current slogan Linux is all about choice. One can choose to boot with or without fsck.mode=skip. What about the choice to stop fsck it if it has started at

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-05 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 05 December 2014 23:16:47 Brian wrote: On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 19:06:50 -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:59:25 + Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: But remember our current slogan Linux is all about choice. One can choose to boot with or without

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-05 Thread Jarle Aase
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/06/2014 01:16 AM, Brian wrote: On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 19:06:50 -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:59:25 + Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: But remember our current slogan Linux is all about choice. One can choose to

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