Re: Browser preferences/options (was Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody))

2001-05-10 Thread Daniel Barclay
> From: "Karsten M. Self" > ... > Biggest browser beefs: > > - Stability. Quit with the fucking crashing already. Don't lose my > stuff (this includes state). ***STABILITY IS NOT OPTIONAL*** > > - Speed. Render. Quickly. Load. Quickly. Stop. Quickly. Ties > strongl

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-09 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:34:31AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > I've never used IE. Really? So how would you support your previous statement, > > I also would like to have a decent browser that doesn't attempt to > > copy IE. if you had no experience with it. How exactly would Mozilla be imita

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-08 Thread Ilya Martynov
HS> Or, in my experience, and I stand behind saying this, I'd like a HS> browser for linux that *works* as good as IE... I am *not* pro-MS HS> either. konqueror is very good. mozilla is good too if you have a lot of RAM :). Actually I thing both of them have better rendering engine then IE. --

Re: Browser preferences/options (was Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody))

2001-05-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:25:56PM -0500, Hall Stevenson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > * Karsten M. Self (kmself@ix.netcom.com) [010507 19:22]: > > > > > > If you're a gnome user, why not try galeon ?? It's site is here: > > > http://galeon.sourceforge.net/. I've used it in the past and it's > > >

Re: Browser preferences/options (was Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody))

2001-05-07 Thread Hall Stevenson
* Karsten M. Self (kmself@ix.netcom.com) [010507 19:22]: > > > > If you're a gnome user, why not try galeon ?? It's site is here: > > http://galeon.sourceforge.net/. I've used it in the past and it's > > quite nice... > > A GNOME environment is not required for galeon, though some gnome libs > ar

Re: Browser preferences/options (was Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody))

2001-05-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 06:16:19PM -0500, Rich Puhek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > "Karsten M. Self" wrote: > > > > Biggest browser beefs: > > > > - Stability. Quit with the fucking crashing already. Don't lose my > > stuff (this includes state). ***STABILITY IS NOT OPTIONAL*** > > >

Re: Browser preferences/options (was Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody))

2001-05-07 Thread Rich Puhek
"Karsten M. Self" wrote: > > Biggest browser beefs: > > - Stability. Quit with the fucking crashing already. Don't lose my > stuff (this includes state). ***STABILITY IS NOT OPTIONAL*** > > - Speed. Render. Quickly. Load. Quickly. Stop. Quickly. Ties > strongly to l

Browser preferences/options (was Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody))

2001-05-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 07:54:39AM -0400, Hall Stevenson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> Note, however, if you're shifting to the dailies, that the 0.9x > >> series is rumored to be less stable than the 0.8x line. > > > > N > > > > /me sobs > > > > > > why don't they just throw away that

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Hall Stevenson
> > Or, in my experience, and I stand behind saying this, I'd like a > > browser for linux that *works* as good as IE... I am *not* pro-MS > > either. > > I've been running Opera 5.0b8 here and it works just fine. > Netscape crashed all the time, even under Windows. Mozilla > is getting close, but

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Hall Stevenson
> On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:36:53AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > I tried it. I found it neither more stable nor faster than Navigator > > (though with a 28.8 connection browser speed is not a problem > > anyway). > > I can't believe that. Opera loads about 5 times faster than Navigator > here, a

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Alex Suzuki
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 09:36:53AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > I tried it. I found it neither more stable nor faster than Navigator > (though with a 28.8 connection browser speed is not a problem anyway). I can't believe that. Opera loads about 5 times faster than Navigator here, and is very quic

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Dana J . Laude
On Mon, 07 May 2001 08:37:03 Hall Stevenson wrote: > > Hall writes: > > > If you're a gnome user, why not try galeon ?? > > > > Because it depends on _all_ of Mozilla? > > I don't know exactly how it works, but the original complaint had to > do with the XUL interface and the add-ons (mail, news,

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread John Hasler
Martin writes: > the i suggest trying opera. it's quite stable and very fast. I tried it. I found it neither more stable nor faster than Navigator (though with a 28.8 connection browser speed is not a problem anyway). -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread John Hasler
Hall Stevenson writes: > I don't know exactly how it works, but the original complaint had to do > with the XUL interface and the add-ons (mail, news, irc, etc). Galeon > doesn't have all this. A complaint I share. > It uses "gnome" for the interface and is only a web browser. But I still have

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Alex Suzuki
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 02:20:24PM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote: > Hall Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 07/05/2001 (14:02) : > > If you're a gnome user, why not try galeon ?? It's site is here: > > http://galeon.sourceforge.net/. I've used it in the past and it's > > quite nice... I am using

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Martin Würtele
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 07:51:16AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > I found it less stable than Netscape 4.75, which crashes several times a > day. > > I also would like to have a decent browser that doesn't attempt to copy IE. the i suggest trying opera. it's quite stable and very fast. well, it's no

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Hall Stevenson
> Hall writes: > > If you're a gnome user, why not try galeon ?? > > Because it depends on _all_ of Mozilla? I don't know exactly how it works, but the original complaint had to do with the XUL interface and the add-ons (mail, news, irc, etc). Galeon doesn't have all this. It uses "gnome" for the

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 07:54:39AM -0400, Hall Stevenson wrote: > > If you're a gnome user, why not try galeon ?? It's site is here: > http://galeon.sourceforge.net/. I've used it in the past and it's > quite nice... galeon indeed works very well. the problem is a mozilla bug is still a galeon b

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread John Hasler
Hall writes: > If you're a gnome user, why not try galeon ?? Because it depends on _all_ of Mozilla? > I've used it in the past and it's quite nice... I found it less stable than Netscape 4.75, which crashes several times a day. I also would like to have a decent browser that doesn't attempt to

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Preben Randhol
Hall Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 07/05/2001 (14:02) : > If you're a gnome user, why not try galeon ?? It's site is here: > http://galeon.sourceforge.net/. I've used it in the past and it's > quite nice... Do you know where one can get the Debian pacakges? The download link on that page

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Hall Stevenson
>> Note, however, if you're shifting to the dailies, that the 0.9x >> series is rumored to be less stable than the 0.8x line. > > N > > /me sobs > > > why don't they just throw away that entire XUL, irc, news, mail, > whatever-other-useless-cruft and concentrate on the rendering > engine,

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 10:15:03PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > Note, however, if you're shifting to the dailies, that the 0.9x series > is rumored to be less stable than the 0.8x line. N /me sobs why don't they just throw away that entire XUL, irc, news, mail, whatever-other-usel

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, May 06, 2001 at 09:00:57PM -0800, Ethan Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 06:03:10PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > > Is there a way to get mozilla on woody to do strong encryption? The > > docs refer to the personal security manager, but the file no longer > > exis

Re: Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, May 06, 2001 at 06:03:10PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > Is there a way to get mozilla on woody to do strong encryption? The > docs refer to the personal security manager, but the file no longer > exists. Mozilla's site says the security is now incorporated into the > nightly build. > > Si

Strong encryption for mozilla (woody)

2001-05-06 Thread Ross Boylan
Is there a way to get mozilla on woody to do strong encryption? The docs refer to the personal security manager, but the file no longer exists. Mozilla's site says the security is now incorporated into the nightly build. Since that build seems not to have made it to woody, I still need to do som