Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-09-07 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/02/2017 08:24 PM, Doug wrote: [snip] Do you have Kate on your system? You can open side-by-side versions of that, and that's a fine text editor that you don't have to know vi or anything esoteric to use it. --doug As I currently have the MATE desktop, it is not installed and the

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-09-06 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: > I gave up on the kde breakage that never gets fixed by kde, and on this > boxen, and one of my more well-endowed cnc boxes its TDE r14.0.0.x all > the way down, so I am still running kmail 1.9, its had at least 99% of > all the kde bugs swatted.  Its a fork of kde 3.5. >

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 September 2017 13:39:01 deloptes wrote: > kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > > FWIW, I also thought that you lost 6 months of work based on what > > you wrote initially. Happy to hear that the damage is much less. But > > even that can be very frustrating, right? > > > > Along with the

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 September 2017 12:27:37 kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > The ability to edit the copy buffer in a different tab, doing a > > buffer wide edit to change the axis references in the buffer, so > > that those

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-09-06 Thread deloptes
kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > FWIW, I also thought that you lost 6 months of work based on what you > wrote initially. Happy to hear that the damage is much less. But even > that can be very frustrating, right? > > Along with the backups, may I suggest you to store all your work in > version

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-09-06 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > The ability to edit the copy buffer in a different tab, doing a buffer > wide edit to change the axis references in the buffer, so that those > edits are done and stand a chance of being correct when the main buffer >

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-09-06 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 10:02:45AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: [...] > Replace all that file and directory management with git. > > edit /cncmaster/cnc-machine-A/config > git commit /cncmaster/cnc-machine-A/config To harp on my previous post: git

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-09-06 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 02:31:08AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 06 September 2017 00:09:31 kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 7:37 AM, Gene Heskett > wrote: > > > On Friday 17 March 2017 05:49:30 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > >> On Thu, Mar

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 September 2017 03:12:36 Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 06.09.17 02:31, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 06 September 2017 00:09:31 kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > > > > The total configuration generally is not a single file, usually > > broken up according to its order in the

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-09-06 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 05:12:36PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: [...] > A VCS only allows you to retrieve versions which have been checked in, > but that might help if it encourages you to do that immediately at the > end of an editing session,

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-09-06 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 06.09.17 02:31, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 06 September 2017 00:09:31 kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > > The total configuration generally is not a single file, usually broken up > according to its order in the programs bootup, first being the basic > config, then the first of what could

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 September 2017 00:09:31 kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 7:37 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 17 March 2017 05:49:30 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 09:54:42AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> > gedit has caused

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-09-05 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 7:37 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 17 March 2017 05:49:30 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 09:54:42AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> > gedit has caused me to have to start over again, 3 times, on a 600+ >> > line configuration

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-09-02 Thread Doug
On 04/02/2017 07:13 AM, Tom Browder wrote: On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 14:36 Fred > wrote: On 04/01/2017 09:24 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/01/2017 10:55 AM, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-04-02 Thread Curt
On 2017-04-01, Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 03/16/2017 09:04 AM, I {the OP} had written: > > > > I don't need a diff tool exactly. I need to do a _visual_ comparison > > to make sure I'm editing the right portion. > > I might say I was looking for an "analog" not "digital"

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-04-02 Thread Tom Browder
On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 14:36 Fred wrote: > On 04/01/2017 09:24 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 04/01/2017 10:55 AM, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 06:38:52AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>> The two files are nearly identical and need them

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-04-01 Thread Fred
On 04/01/2017 09:24 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 04/01/2017 10:55 AM, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 06:38:52AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: The two files are nearly identical and need them displayed simultaneously for instant visual comparison. Opening one of the

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-04-01 Thread Curt
On 2017-04-01, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 06:38:52AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >> The two files are nearly identical and need them displayed simultaneously >> for instant visual comparison. Opening one of the files read only would be

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-04-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 04/01/2017 10:55 AM, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 06:38:52AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: The two files are nearly identical and need them displayed simultaneously for instant visual comparison. Opening one of the files read only would be acceptable but not

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-04-01 Thread cbannister
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 06:38:52AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > The two files are nearly identical and need them displayed simultaneously > for instant visual comparison. Opening one of the files read only would be > acceptable but not preferable. apt-cache show diffutils (perhaps there is no

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-17 Thread davidson
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, david...@freevolt.org wrote: In case OP decides to install emacs, given his previously expressed appreciation of fine documentation, I recommend installing also (for the chosen version NN of emacs) the emacsNN-common-non-dfsg package from the non-free repository. This is

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-17 Thread davidson
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017, John Hasler wrote: Richard Owlett writes: I require two things: 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side* Emacs. In case OP decides to install emacs, given his previously expressed

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 March 2017 10:26:05 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 07:37:11AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I do, I am a very longtime user of amanda, since 1998 TBE. > > OK - I misread your post as suggesting you had lost 6 months of work. > > > And yet for me, "life" is long,

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 07:37:11AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > I do, I am a very longtime user of amanda, since 1998 TBE. OK - I misread your post as suggesting you had lost 6 months of work. > And yet for me, "life" is long, I'm 82 and counting. No point wasting any of it, no matter how much

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 March 2017 05:49:30 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 09:54:42AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > gedit has caused me to have to start over again, 3 times, on a 600+ > > line configuration file for machine control on several occasions. As > > the file it trashed was 6

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 09:54:42AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > gedit has caused me to have to start over again, 3 times, on a 600+ line > configuration file for machine control on several occasions. As the file > it trashed was 6 months worth of adding new features to that machines > control,

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 17/03/17 01:09, Celejar wrote: I just checked, and Geany can do both. I always use: geany --new-instance My ~/bin/geany is: #!/bin/bash exec /usr/bin/geany --new-instance "$@" Kind regards, -- Ben Caradoc-Davies Director Transient Software Limited

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 17/03/17 02:56, Fred wrote: I recommend Nedit. Ah, rectangular cut and paste, how do I miss thee. I abandoned nedit for the allure of scalable fonts (in gedit then geany), but still remember it fondly. Kind regards, -- Ben Caradoc-Davies Director Transient Software

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Joe
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 09:04:00 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/16/2017 07:20 AM, Joe wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500 > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >> > >> The two files are nearly identical and need them displayed > >>

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:15:06 AM Christian Groessler wrote: > On 03/16/17 15:01, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Well, I did, and I didn't ;-) That was on the order of 15 years ago. > > Problems that I can remember centered around fonts, font sizes, > > readability, and compatibility with my

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread John Hasler
rhkramer writes (about Emacs): > That was on the order of 15 years ago. Problems that I can remember > centered around fonts, font sizes, readability... None of those would be problems now. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Christian Groessler
On 03/16/17 15:01, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I did, and I didn't ;-) That was on the order of 15 years ago. Problems that I can remember centered around fonts, font sizes, readability, and compatibility with my past experiences (which, by that time in my life, were mostly Dos / Window

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Charlie Kravetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: >My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. >I require two things: > 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. > 2. display/edit 2

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Andreas Ronnquist
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 08:56:12 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >On 03/16/2017 07:27 AM, Andreas Ronnquist wrote: >> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 13:16:19 +0100, >> Andreas Ronnquist wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500, >>> Richard

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Fred
On 03/16/2017 04:38 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. I require two things: 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side* MATE's standard editor (Pluma) can handle the

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 09:47:31 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Your hunch isn't completely wrong. From Emac's wikipedia page: > > The original EMACS was written in 1976 by David A. Moon and > Guy L. Steele, Jr. as a set of Editor MACroS for the TECO > editor. It was inspired by

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/16/2017 07:20 AM, Joe wrote: On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. I require two things: 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. 2. display/edit 2 files

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/16/2017 07:27 AM, Andreas Ronnquist wrote: On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 13:16:19 +0100, Andreas Ronnquist wrote: On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. I require two things: 1. a

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 March 2017 08:09:13 Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500 > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. > > I require two things: > > 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new > > string.

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 08:33:46AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/16/2017 07:13 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > >>Suggestions? > > > >That said, it takes some investment. Some would say it's a > >religion, but there are especially perverse

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
> 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. > 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side* Really? I find it hard to believe that there could be editors out there which don't satisfy both of those. Of course, I'd recommend Emacs, but really: *any* editor

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/16/2017 07:13 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Suggestions? That said, it takes some investment. Some would say it's a religion, but there are especially perverse polyreligious folks out there: I "am" Vim *and* Emacs (take that ;-) I'll see your "Vim *and* Emacs" and raise you TECO. Not

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/16/2017 07:09 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 16 March 2017 11:38:52 Richard Owlett wrote: My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. I require two things: 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/16/2017 07:09 AM, Celejar wrote: On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. I require two things: 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. 2. display/edit 2 files

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread John Hasler
tomas writes: > That said, it takes some investment. Some would say it's a religion, > but there are especially perverse polyreligious folks out there: I > "am" Vim *and* Emacs (take that ;-) You are not the only one. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread John Hasler
Richard Owlett writes: > I require two things: > 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. > 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side* Emacs. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Andreas Ronnquist
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 13:16:19 +0100, Andreas Ronnquist wrote: >On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500, >Richard Owlett wrote: > >>My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. >>I require two things: >> 1. a search and replace which can include a

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Joe
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. > I require two things: > 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. > 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side* > >

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Andreas Ronnquist
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. >I require two things: > 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. > 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side* > >MATE's

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 06:38:52AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. > I require two things: > 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. > 2. display/edit 2 files

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 16 March 2017 11:38:52 Richard Owlett wrote: > My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. > I require two things: > 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. > 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side* > > MATE's standard editor

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. > I require two things: > 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. > 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side* > >

Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Richard Owlett
My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. I require two things: 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side* MATE's standard editor (Pluma) can handle the first easily. I see no way to open 2 instances of