Re: Switching from Etch to Lenny - help me assess the risk.

2008-11-09 Thread lee
On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 13:17:31 -0800 "David Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was helping to update a friends (old) p3 box that ran an old version > of etch, needed a bunch of security updates and kde and some other > stuff installed last night. I got all the updates installed except for > two thin

Re: Switching from Etch to Lenny - help me assess the risk.

2008-11-09 Thread Lachlan
2008/11/10 David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Testing breaks less often than Unstable. But when it breaks, it takes a >> long time for things to get rectified. Sometimes this could be days and >> it could be months at times.

Re: Switching from Etch to Lenny - help me assess the risk.

2008-11-09 Thread David Fox
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Testing breaks less often than Unstable. But when it breaks, it takes a > long time for things to get rectified. Sometimes this could be days and > it could be months at times. I did have some issues with the nvidia driver,

Re: Switching from Etch to Lenny - help me assess the risk.

2008-11-09 Thread lee
On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 20:56:51 + Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stable is rock solid. It does not break. > > Testing breaks less often than Unstable. But when it breaks, it > takes a long time for things to get rectified. Sometimes this could > be days and it could be months at times. >

Re: Switching from Etch to Lenny - help me assess the risk.

2008-11-09 Thread David Fox
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:35 PM, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When you run testing (and keep it updated), you don't need to worry > about making the leap from one stable release to the next. That was I ran etch when it was still testing, then kept it at testing for sometime until I got a new

Re: Switching from Etch to Lenny - help me assess the risk.

2008-11-09 Thread Bob Cox
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 10:56:31 -0600, lee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:56:06 +1300 > Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My understanding is that "stable" means unchanging. > > See http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-choosing.en.html#s3.1. That would > indicat

Re: Switching from Etch to Lenny - help me assess the risk.

2008-11-09 Thread lee
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:56:06 +1300 Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My understanding is that "stable" means unchanging. See http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-choosing.en.html#s3.1. That would indicate that "stable" doesn't mean "unchanging" but "likely to not have as many bugs" as test

Re: Switching from Etch to Lenny - help me assess the risk.

2008-11-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:15:53AM -0600, Ramasubramanian Ramesh wrote: > All, > > I run Etch+backports at my home gateway/file server. Lately, I find > that many packages are too old in Etch for my needs. I am thinking of > switching to Lenny. While Lenny is not as stable as Etch, I am not su

Re: Switching from Etch to Lenny - help me assess the risk.

2008-11-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 06:53:59PM +0200, Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote: > I have exactly the same opinion as Alan. As I wrote in another thread > about debian versions, Lenny (or testing in general) is so stable that > personally, having never run 'Stable', I can't imagine how much more > stable could a di

Re: Switching from Etch to Lenny - help me assess the risk.

2008-11-07 Thread lee
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:05:21 -0500 Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But, if you're > current set up is working for you, and you're simply curious to see if > newer will be better, then I say don't do it. Why fix what isn't > broken? Because it will become broken over time: "Broken" in

Re: Switching from Etch to Lenny - help me assess the risk.

2008-11-07 Thread Mark Grieveson
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:02:58 + (UTC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > All, > > I run Etch+backports at my home gateway/file server. Lately, I find > that many packages are too old in Etch for my needs. I am thinking of > switching to Lenny. Don't do it! Resist the temptation. Stay with good

Re: Switching from Etch to Lenny - help me assess the risk.

2008-11-07 Thread lee
On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:15:53 -0600 Ramasubramanian Ramesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While Lenny is not as stable as Etch, I am not > sure how much difference there is, in terms of stability. When you run testing (and keep it updated), you don't need to worry about making the leap from one stab

Re: Switching from Etch to Lenny - help me assess the risk.

2008-11-07 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας
Ramasubramanian Ramesh wrote: > All, > > I run Etch+backports at my home gateway/file server. Lately, I find > that many packages are too old in Etch for my needs. I am thinking of > switching to Lenny. While Lenny is not as stable as Etch, I am not > sure how much difference there is, in terms of

Re: Switching from Etch to Lenny - help me assess the risk.

2008-11-07 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ramasubramanian Ramesh wrote: > All, > > I run Etch+backports at my home gateway/file server. Lately, I find > that many packages are too old in Etch for my needs. Which packages are too old for a 'gateway/file server? >

Re: Switching from Etch to Lenny - help me assess the risk.

2008-11-07 Thread Alan Ianson
On Fri November 7 2008 08:15:53 am Ramasubramanian Ramesh wrote: > All, > > I run Etch+backports at my home gateway/file server. Lately, I find > that many packages are too old in Etch for my needs. I am thinking of > switching to Lenny. While Lenny is not as stable as Etch, I am not sure > how m

Switching from Etch to Lenny - help me assess the risk.

2008-11-07 Thread Ramasubramanian Ramesh
All, I run Etch+backports at my home gateway/file server. Lately, I find that many packages are too old in Etch for my needs. I am thinking of switching to Lenny. While Lenny is not as stable as Etch, I am not sure how much difference there is, in terms of stability. I am not worried about a