top command results from an ssh

2008-05-16 Thread avilella
Hi, how can I get the results of doing a top sorted by memory usage from an ssh command? Sth like: ssh a-computer top Is this doable? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: top command results from an ssh

2008-05-16 Thread Jochen Schulz
avilella: how can I get the results of doing a top sorted by memory usage from an ssh command? I am not sure what exactly you are trying to do, but $ ssh -t host top will show top's output from the remote host in your current terminal. You need the -t option when you want to force ssh

Re: top command results from an ssh

2008-05-16 Thread Mike Bird
On Fri May 16 2008 04:39:10 avilella wrote: how can I get the results of doing a top sorted by memory usage from an ssh command? Sth like: ssh a-computer top Is this doable? It's doable but ugly: ssh a-computer top -b -n1 | tail -n+8 | sort -n -k1.46,1.50 You might want to see if ps

Problems understanding RAM usage in top

2008-04-25 Thread David
Hi list. Is it normal for 'top' to show that most of your physical memory is used when there aren't any processes running? (besides the usual init, getty, klogd, sshd, etc). I assume that this memory is being used for Linux caches - file buffers etc to speed up disk access and so

Re: Problems understanding RAM usage in top

2008-04-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/25/08 11:46, David wrote: Hi list. Is it normal for 'top' to show that most of your physical memory is used when there aren't any processes running? (besides the usual init, getty, klogd, sshd, etc). Yes. I assume that this memory

Re: Problems understanding RAM usage in top

2008-04-25 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 04/25/08 11:46, David wrote: Is it normal for 'top' to show that most of your physical memory is used when there aren't any processes running? (besides the usual init, getty, klogd, sshd, etc). Yes. Yup. I assume that this memory is being used

Re: Problems understanding RAM usage in top

2008-04-25 Thread Ron Johnson
usage data, but apps like top(1) will have to be rewritten to use the new info. Er, what? Have we done away with RSS and VSZ, or are they just momentarily lost? Is this Sid stuff? http://virtualthreads.blogspot.com/2006/02/understanding-memory-usage-on-linux.html Depending on how you

Mutt and top posting

2008-03-11 Thread Julian De Marchi
Hey! I have just srated using mutt. :-) I am really loving it! Only thing that I would like to know how to change is, by default mutt top posts. I would like to configure mutt to bottom post by default when I reply to an email. I have googled for the naswer and only found instructions on how

Re: Mutt and top posting

2008-03-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/11/08 20:46, Julian De Marchi wrote: Hey! I have just srated using mutt. :-) I am really loving it! Only thing that I would like to know how to change is, by default mutt top posts. I would like to configure mutt to bottom post

Re: Mutt and top posting

2008-03-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 09:03:43PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/11/08 20:46, Julian De Marchi wrote: Only thing that I would like to know how to change is, by default mutt top posts. I would like to configure mutt to bottom post by default when I reply to an email. I have googled

Re: Mutt and top posting

2008-03-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 11 March 2008 06:46:58 pm Julian De Marchi wrote: Only thing that I would like to know how to change is, by default mutt top posts. I would like to configure mutt to bottom post by default when I reply to an email. Mutt doesn't default to top posting, it defaults to putting

Re: Mutt and top posting

2008-03-11 Thread s. keeling
Julian De Marchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have just srated using mutt. :-) I am really loving it! Only thing that I would like to know how to change is, by default mutt top = posts. I would like to configure mutt to bottom post by default when I=20 reply to an email. I have googled

Re: Mutt and top posting

2008-03-11 Thread Julian De Marchi
You should be editing on the way to the bottom. Pure bottom-posting is as bad as pure-top-posting. If I had just bottom-posed, you would see Ron's signature lines, the debian-list signature line, and Ron telling you to turn on line wrapping. As it is, I left more than I probably should

Re: Mutt and top posting

2008-03-11 Thread Julian De Marchi
Mutt doesn't default to top posting, it defaults to putting the cursor at the start of the message so you can read along as you go down, interspersing your reply and removing unnecessary text. This is not a bug: It is by design and is a feature. I am fully aware this is not a bug(flea

Re: Mutt and top posting

2008-03-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 11 March 2008 09:28:42 pm Julian De Marchi wrote: Mutt doesn't default to top posting, it defaults to putting the cursor at the start of the message so you can read along as you go down, interspersing your reply and removing unnecessary text. This is not a bug: It is by design

[OT] Confirmações e top-post (era: Re: t z-brasil horário incorreto - Não resolvido)

2008-02-09 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
pessoas ignorem o fato e continuem enviando as confirmações). Desculpe a ignorância! Mas o que seria top-post? Enviar sua resposta acima da pergunta, exatamente como você fez desta e da outra vez, ao contrário do recomendado que é colocar as respostas abaixo das perguntas ou dos itens que

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-19 Thread Dotan Cohen
it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-17 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 07:58:09AM -0600, Kent West wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Exotic mathematics without a grounding in reality is medieval philosophy trying to determine how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Two. No, seven! Arg. You made me lose count!

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-17 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 05:59 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 07:58:09AM -0600, Kent West wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Exotic mathematics without a grounding in reality is medieval philosophy trying to determine how many angels can dance on

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/17/08 12:46, Dotan Cohen wrote: On 17/01/2008, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 16, 2008 8:08 AM, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/01/2008, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If ducks float, they must be made of wood

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/15/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] If ducks float, they must be made of wood (or small rocks), so if the witch weighs the same as a duck, then she must be made of wood and therefore, she'll float, so she's a witch. The sad

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Alex Samad
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 01:55:15AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:23:37AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... It's been quite a while, and we can't quote the

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 17:37:16 +1100, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:23:37AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... It's been quite a while, and we can't quote the whole movie. and apparently, one can recover from

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Dan H
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:02:07 +0100 (CET) s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, why don't your lines wrap at ca. 80 chars? Missed that lesson? Huh? I set Claws to wrap at 70. I thought it would do that automatically before sending the message... Fixed. --D. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Ulrich Schweitzer
it all at once, then you are following too closely. There's probably a reason I'm not a traffic engineer. Just a side note (and even more off topic): In Germany (and as far as I know the rest of Europe as well), text written on streets is top to bottom. When I were in the US or South America

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Dotan Cohen
it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Dotan Cohen
that... The sad thing is that I work for them. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 16, 2008 12:42 AM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01/15/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] If ducks float, they must be made of wood (or small rocks), so if the witch weighs the same as a duck, then she must be made of wood and therefore, she'll float, so she's

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 01:55:15AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:23:37AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ...

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: On Jan 16, 2008 12:42 AM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01/15/08 23:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: [snip] If ducks float, they must be made of wood (or small rocks), so if the witch weighs the same as a duck, then she must

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Dotan Cohen
read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread judd
On 15 Jan, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:23:39PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/15/08 19:24, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 01/15/08 17:05, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: The problem, the oft-overlooked side comment made by one of the

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Robert Hodgins
Given that you're in the country that invented the witch-hunt, that's not much surprise. I wasn't aware that he was from Babylonia! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch-hunt#Antiquity -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
written on streets is top to bottom. When I were in the US or South America it always seemed very strange to me that the order of lines would be upside down. I'm not alone! A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 10:56:28AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 01:55:15AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:23:37AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 10:56:28AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 01:55:15AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Alex Samad
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:53:34PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: [snip] Well, now you're just contradicting. I'd tell you why that's not true but there's a bunch of mean looking guys at my door. I figure it's either the Spanish Inquisition or the Business Software Alliance. (Is there much

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 10:07:41AM +0100, Dan H wrote: Again: There is NO NEED to scroll through redundant stuff! You need to EDIT the irrelevant stuff away! What's so hard to understand about this? Do you notice that this posting, although it is deep in an ongoing thread, covers barely

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Chris Bannister
of etiquette. The practice varies, and some lists work the other way, but on this and many lists the convention is to top post, trim heartily, try to get the attributions Arghh... that should've been bottom post, or at least to not top post... It the convention

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:23:39PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/15/08 19:24, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 01/15/08 17:05, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: The problem, the oft-overlooked side comment made by one of the

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:53:34PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: [snip] Well, now you're just contradicting. I'd tell you why that's not true but there's a bunch of mean looking guys at my door. I figure it's either the Spanish Inquisition

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Alex Samad
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 05:12:07PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:53:34PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: [snip] Well, now you're just contradicting. I'd tell you why that's not true but there's a bunch of mean

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Celejar
: my mail reader sort my mail in date order and links together all the threaded emails. I read them in date/time order, if I follow a thread from begging to end, then all i should have to do is read the top posts, but if they bottom posted, then as the thread grows I find I have to scroll

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 16, 2008 8:08 AM, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/01/2008, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If ducks float, they must be made of wood (or small rocks), so if the witch weighs the same as a duck, then she must be made of wood and therefore, she'll float, so she's

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread David
Paul Johnson wrote: On Jan 16, 2008 8:08 AM, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/01/2008, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If ducks float, they must be made of wood (or small rocks), so if the witch weighs the same as a duck, then she must be made of wood and therefore, she'll

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 09:46:38 +1300 Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Its also to recommended to set the line wrap variable in your editor to about 72 or so. I don't know how to set that in Slypheed Claws. Configuration / Preferences / Compose / Wrapping Chris. Celejar --

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 05:12:07PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:53:34PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: [snip] Well, now you're just contradicting. I'd tell

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: On Jan 16, 2008 8:08 AM, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/01/2008, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If ducks float, they must be made of wood (or small rocks), so if the witch weighs the same as a duck, then she must be

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Alex Samad
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 10:43:23PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 05:12:07PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:53:34PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote:

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Dan H
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:58:06 +1100 Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I am trying to point out is for a normal user ( ie somebody who is subscribed to the list), when a thread starts, you read them in date/time order as them come in, why seems illogical to have to scroll through stuff

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Dan H
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:49:52 -0900 Ken Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, it's a social convention, a matter of etiquette. The practice varies, and some lists work the other way, but on this and many lists the convention is to top post Huh? I don't think so, but even if what you say

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Dan H
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:58:46 +1100 Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 03:25:14PM -0800, Raquel wrote: Then the people posting are not trimming their posts as they should. or taken to the extreme, why not remove all the original post! No, it's best to always trim

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Dan H
responding to into the relevant parts, and then you reply separately to those points. Although I do admit that if you start in the last email of a thread it easier to read top to bottom The idea is that every posting, even though it is far into some thread, is to a certain extent self

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Dan H
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:52:04 +1100 Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my mail reader sort my mail in date order and links together all the threaded emails. I read them in date/time order, if I follow a thread from begging to end, then all i should have to do is read the top posts

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread I.E.Broadbent
Gulliver-style about which end of the egg to open? Am I the open person who finds this 'noise' about top-posting to be more than just a tad purile? Email and txt-spk, both seen by many to be the scurge of any form of intellectual communication; .. and we're arguing about whether or not the words

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ebanatik Ebanatovich wrote: Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top posting is in something technical (e.g. to help forum software to create weekly digests correctly) or is it a question of etiquette? Rationality, because while some cultures read left-right, and others

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
/08 10:21, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich wrote: Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top posting is in something technical (e.g. to help forum software to create weekly digests correctly) or is it a question of etiquette? Rationality, because while some cultures read

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/15/08 06:36, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: [snip] I always start at the last page and write upwards so my diary becomes illegible to all, including me, in order to attempt to have time move backwards. At my age that become

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Kent West
Ron Johnson wrote: Exotic mathematics without a grounding in reality is medieval philosophy trying to determine how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Two. No, seven! Arg. You made me lose count! -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 07:58:09AM -0600, Kent West wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Exotic mathematics without a grounding in reality is medieval philosophy trying to determine how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Two. No, seven! Arg. You made me lose count! oh come on. Everyone

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:24:52AM +, I.E.Broadbent wrote: blimey ... what's next folks, arguing Gulliver-style about which end of the egg to open? oh please. Don't start that old flame-war again! Everyone knows it's the small end. ... Can we kill this OT subject now please?

Re: [OT] Stop Ahead (was top posting)

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 03:36:26PM +1100, Alex Samad wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 08:34:28PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: There's probably a reason I'm not a traffic engineer. my thoughts as well ;-) A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Alex Samad
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 07:28:15AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/15/08 06:36, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: [snip] I always start at the last page and write upwards so my diary becomes illegible to all, including me, in

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/15/08 16:46, Alex Samad wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 07:28:15AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/15/08 06:36, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: [snip] I always start at the last page and write upwards so my diary becomes

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 04:57:15PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/15/08 16:46, Alex Samad wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 07:28:15AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Exotic mathematics without a grounding in reality is medieval philosophy trying to determine how many angels can dance on the head

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/15/08 17:05, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 04:57:15PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/15/08 16:46, Alex Samad wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 07:28:15AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Exotic mathematics without a grounding

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 14, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: This is a bottom-posting list, like every other list that has such a rule. I've never heard of a list that specifically _prefers_ top posting. If there is such a list, I doubt that it would be of a very technical nature. While not technically

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread s. keeling
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jan 14, 2008 6:43 PM, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe (maybe wrongly ) that this mailing list is a non top-posting list, I try and conform. You're correct. List policy prefers snip irrelevancies and bottom post. Where are you

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread s. keeling
Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jan 14, 2008 1:03 PM, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should read this: http://what-is-what.com/what_is/top_posting.html I prefer http://learn.to/quote for that; the URL you mention only Tried that lately? Goes to The Webalias Network. --

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 15, 2008 4:20 PM, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 14, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: This is a bottom-posting list, like every other list that has such a rule. I've never heard of a list that specifically _prefers_ top posting. If there is such a list, I doubt

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread s. keeling
Dan H [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No, it's best to always trim the original to the extent that it still contains the relevant context for your reply. Half a dozen lines is usually enough. Of course I've got about 15 years of Usenet experience under my belt. That teaches discipline! So, why

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 15, 2008 4:50 PM, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jan 14, 2008 1:03 PM, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should read this: http://what-is-what.com/what_is/top_posting.html I prefer http://learn.to/quote for that; the URL you

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread s. keeling
David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jan 14, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: This is a bottom-posting list, like every other list that has such a rule. I've never heard of a list that specifically _prefers_ top posting. If there is such a list, I doubt that it would be of a very

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 01/15/08 17:05, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: The problem, the oft-overlooked side comment made by one of the peasants. Small rocks float. So though she may weigh the same as a Really? Pumice? Since when are witches made of wood? Or small rocks?

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread David Brodbeck
On Jan 15, 2008, at 5:06 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Stuff like that makes me think I'm better off now driving a truck. Pays about the same as a decent, call-center and outsource-free environment either way... Isn't NAFTA about to in-source Mexican trucks to take care of that? -- To

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:28:15 -0600 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Exotic mathematics without a grounding in reality is medieval philosophy trying to determine how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Pure mathematics consists entirely of assertions to the effect that, if

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Dotan Cohen
is top-posting such a bad thing?

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jan 15, 2008 5:36 PM, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 2008, at 5:06 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Stuff like that makes me think I'm better off now driving a truck. Pays about the same as a decent, call-center and outsource-free environment either way... Isn't NAFTA about

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 08:42:31PM -0500, Celejar wrote: Thus mathematics may be defined as the subject in which we never know what we are talking about, nor whether what we are saying is true. People who have been puzzled by the beginnings of mathematics will, I hope, find comfort in this

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/15/08 19:24, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 01/15/08 17:05, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: The problem, the oft-overlooked side comment made by one of the peasants. Small rocks float. So though she may weigh the same as a

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/15/08 20:43, Paul Johnson wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 5:36 PM, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 2008, at 5:06 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Stuff like that makes me think I'm better off now driving a truck. Pays about the same as a

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/15/08 20:32, Dotan Cohen wrote: On 15/01/2008, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 1:03 PM, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should read this: http://what-is-what.com/what_is/top_posting.html I prefer

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Sudev Barar
On 16/01/2008, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *not* trim any of the quote history. I assume this was so whichever tech support drone in India got my latest message would be able to see the whole history. [OT] Do not assume and this *this* tech drone from India does favour trimming

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread David
Sudev Barar wrote: On 16/01/2008, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *not* trim any of the quote history. I assume this was so whichever tech support drone in India got my latest message would be able to see the whole history. [OT] Do not assume and this *this* tech drone from India

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On 15/01/2008, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 1:03 PM, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should read this: http://what-is-what.com/what_is/top_posting.html I prefer http://learn.to/quote for that; the URL you mention

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:23:39PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/15/08 19:24, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 01/15/08 17:05, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: The problem, the oft-overlooked side comment made by one of the peasants. Small rocks float. So though she may

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... It's been quite a while, and we can't quote the whole movie. and apparently, one can recover from being turned into a newt. ;) Only if 'es not dead yet. Or been eaten by a swallow, laden or unladen. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Alex Samad
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:23:37AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... It's been quite a while, and we can't quote the whole movie. and apparently, one can recover from being turned into a newt. ;) Only if 'es not dead yet. Or

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Alex Samad wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:23:37AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... It's been quite a while, and we can't quote the whole movie. and apparently, one can recover from being

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Michael Marsh
On Jan 14, 2008 11:21 AM, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top posting is in something technical (e.g. to help forum software to create weekly digests correctly) or is it a question of etiquette? The 5100

[OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich
Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top posting is in something technical (e.g. to help forum software to create weekly digests correctly) or is it a question of etiquette? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/14/08 10:21, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich wrote: Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top posting is in something technical (e.g. to help forum software to create weekly digests correctly) or is it a question

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 14/01/2008, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top posting is in something technical (e.g. to help forum software to create weekly digests correctly) or is it a question of etiquette? Thanks You should

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 10:32:53AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/14/08 10:21, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich wrote: Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top posting is in something technical (e.g. to help forum

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/14/08 15:57, Alex Samad wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 10:32:53AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/14/08 10:21, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich wrote: Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top posting is in something

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread David
Alex Samad wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 10:32:53AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/14/08 10:21, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich wrote: Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top posting is in something technical (e.g

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Ron Johnson
wondering if the cause of avoiding of top posting is in something technical (e.g. to help forum software to create weekly digests correctly) or is it a question of etiquette? Rationality, because while some cultures read left-right, and others read right-left, all read top-bottom. None read bottom

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Alex Samad
, Ebanutiy Ebanatik Ebanatovich wrote: Sorry for offtopic but I'm wondering if the cause of avoiding of top posting is in something technical (e.g. to help forum software to create weekly digests correctly) or is it a question of etiquette? Rationality, because while some cultures read left

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Alex Samad
wondering if the cause of avoiding of top posting is in something technical (e.g. to help forum software to create weekly digests correctly) or is it a question of etiquette? Rationality, because while some cultures read left-right, and others read right-left, all read top-bottom. None

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