Hi Jimmy,
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:15:28AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> >On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 10:13:12AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> >>On 05/26/2019 11:03 PM, Andy Smith wrote:
> >>>There doesn't seem to be any point in interacting further.
> >>
> >>Andy that's the most helpful thing you'v
On 05/28/2019 08:44 AM, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello,
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 10:13:12AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 05/26/2019 11:03 PM, Andy Smith wrote:
There doesn't seem to be any point in interacting further.
Andy that's the most helpful thing you've said,
I guess you missed the respon
On 2019-05-28, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>
> The exim4 installation provides a symbolic link
>
> snowball:558$ ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 May 7 11:44 /usr/sbin/sendmail -> exim4*
>
Actually, the right way to configure reportbug on a local-mail-only system is
to "run the comman
Curt writes:
> On 2019-05-28, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>
>> experimental: 1.18.0-1
>> Please try to verify if the bug you are about to report is already
>> addressed by these releases. Do you still want to file a report
>> [y|N|q|?]?
>
> Think I might've entered 'q' here on the off chance it repre
Hello,
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 10:13:12AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 05/26/2019 11:03 PM, Andy Smith wrote:
> >There doesn't seem to be any point in interacting further.
>
> Andy that's the most helpful thing you've said,
I guess you missed the response where the very first thing I did was
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 09:48:35 am Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 28.05.19 08:59, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:34:37 am Erik Christiansen wrote:
> > > That said, one could upgrade just that one package, and try it
> > > out. If it is fixed, you're on a winner then and there. "F
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 09:49:47AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 May 2019 09:29:41 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[...]
> A long enough run at it? :) I never gave it any great thought other than
> you don't write like somebody from "east of the river". (where
> river=Mississippi)
:-)
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 09:35:17 am Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 08:32:38AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Thats a piece of cake Reco. On a new install, set both the hostname
> > and the domainname, then add them, with the ipv4 net address into
> > the hosts file. Then make resolv
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 09:30:59 am Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 28.05.19 14:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 08:51:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > But who or what is the gatekeeper to make sure the address you
> > > choose, supposedly at random, isn'
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 09:29:41 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 09:19:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:59:41 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > The third time, you owe me a beer ;-P
> >
> > You're on, but you'll have to come and get it, a
On 28.05.19 08:59, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:34:37 am Erik Christiansen wrote:
> > That said, one could upgrade just that one package, and try it out. If
> > it is fixed, you're on a winner then and there. "Fixed" beats
> > "reported", as you can get on with the next issue.
>
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 08:32:38AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Thats a piece of cake Reco. On a new install, set both the hostname and
> the domainname, then add them, with the ipv4 net address into the hosts
> file. Then make resolv.conf back into a real file, with 2 lines, one to
> set the na
On 28.05.19 14:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 08:51:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > But who or what is the gatekeeper to make sure the address you choose,
> > supposedly at random, isn't in use someplace next door or half the
> > planet away? There may be
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 09:19:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:59:41 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[...]
> > The third time, you owe me a beer ;-P
>
> You're on, but you'll have to come and get it, and it will be miller64
> because I'm diabetic [...]
It's quite improbab
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:59:41 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 08:51:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > But who or what is the gatekeeper to make sure the address you
> > choose, supposedly at random, isn't in use someplace next door or
> > half the planet away?
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:48:06 am Dan Purgert wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > only talk to it. But if I leave the radio on, I've a neighbor whose
> > phone will use it in a heartbeat regardless
> > [...]
>
> Sounds like someone forgot to set security on their wifi...
I thought that was what I w
Hi.
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 08:32:38AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 May 2019 01:49:29 am Reco wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 05:06:24PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:19:44 pm Reco wrote:
> > > > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 02:09:
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 08:51:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
[...]
> But who or what is the gatekeeper to make sure the address you choose,
> supposedly at random, isn't in use someplace next door or half the
> planet away? There may be some sort of an enforcement in ipv6, but I've
> not hea
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:34:37 am Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 28.05.19 08:02, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 27 May 2019 11:18:49 pm Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> > > Gene Heskett writes:
> > > Your version (1.14.6-2) of network-manager appears to be out of
> > > date. The following newer release(s
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 07:00:13 am Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 27.05.19 17:06, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Thats fine, shows the loop local stuff, but how does one determine
> > the ipv6 address for picnc.coyote.den for instance. I think it
> > somehow related to picnc's mac address, but thats just
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Gene Heskett wrote:
> only talk to it. But if I leave the radio on, I've a neighbor whose
> phone will use it in a heartbeat regardless
> [...]
Sounds like someone forgot to set security on their wifi...
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On 05/28/2019 08:02 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 27 May 2019 11:18:49 pm Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Gene Heskett writes:
On Monday 27 May 2019 03:42:52 pm Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-05-27 19:42:46)
On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote:
On 2019-05-27, wrot
On 28.05.19 08:02, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 27 May 2019 11:18:49 pm Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>
> > Gene Heskett writes:
> > Your version (1.14.6-2) of network-manager appears to be out of date.
> > The following newer release(s) are available in the Debian archive:
> > experimental: 1.18.0-1
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 01:49:29 am Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 05:06:24PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:19:44 pm Reco wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 02:09:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Monday 27 May 2019 08:58:14 am rhkra...@gmai
On Monday 27 May 2019 11:18:49 pm Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> Gene Heskett writes:
> > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:42:52 pm Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> >> Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-05-27 19:42:46)
> >>
> >> > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote:
> >> > > On 2019-05-27, wrote:
> >> > > > If Netwo
On 27.05.19 23:32, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> No, seriously I would like to get some user feedback to the question.
> And also why is net-tools being deprecated?
It's not. You and I fully approve of it, so it's fine for the use cases
in which it gives the desired results. (See ifconfig use on this thr
On 27.05.19 17:06, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Thats fine, shows the loop local stuff, but how does one determine the
> ipv6 address for picnc.coyote.den for instance. I think it somehow
> related to picnc's mac address, but thats just a WAG.
On coyote, it'll look something like line 3:
$ ifconfig -a
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:59:41AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 07:47:36AM -, Curt wrote:
> > On a more serious note, as exim is set up to deliver only local mail on
> > many machines (default installation), what happens when you cannot hand
> > your bug report ov
Hi.
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 07:47:36AM -, Curt wrote:
> On a more serious note, as exim is set up to deliver only local mail on
> many machines (default installation), what happens when you cannot hand
> your bug report over to a sendmail-like MTA?
The expected thing happens.
Your exi
Quoting Curt (2019-05-28 09:47:36)
> On 2019-05-28, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>
> > experimental: 1.18.0-1
> > Please try to verify if the bug you are about to report is already
> > addressed by these releases. Do you still want to file a report [y|N|q|?]?
>
> Think I might've entered 'q' here on
On 2019-05-28, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> experimental: 1.18.0-1
> Please try to verify if the bug you are about to report is already addressed
> by these releases. Do you still want to file a report [y|N|q|?]?
Think I might've entered 'q' here on the off chance it represented the word
quit. May
On 05/27/2019 12:54 PM, Brian wrote:
On Mon 27 May 2019 at 10:19:45 -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 05/27/2019 12:46 AM, Curt wrote:
On 2019-05-27, wrote:
If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ tree
(I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my boxes ab
Hi.
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 05:06:24PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 27 May 2019 03:19:44 pm Reco wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 02:09:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Monday 27 May 2019 08:58:14 am rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:36
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 05:06:24PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
[...]
> Thats fine, shows the loop local stuff, but how does one determine the
> ipv6 address for picnc.coyote.den for instance. I think it somehow
> related to picnc's mac address, but thats just a WAG.
There's not THE ip address.
Gene Heskett writes:
> On Monday 27 May 2019 03:42:52 pm Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>
>> Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-05-27 19:42:46)
>>
>> > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote:
>> > > On 2019-05-27, wrote:
>> > > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/
>> > > >
On 2019-05-27 22:22, Gene Heskett wrote:
Then what was I looking at 3 hours ago, looked like a login form to me,
wanted my username, my real name and my email address. That popped up
and denied me access when I clicked on add bug in the upper right
corner
of the screen? It flat refused to let
On Monday 27 May 2019 06:45:42 pm Brian wrote:
> On Mon 27 May 2019 at 17:22:30 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:25:21 pm Brian wrote:
> > > On Mon 27 May 2019 at 13:42:46 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote:
> > > > > On 2019-05-2
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rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:36 AM Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote:
>
> below>
>
>> You are determined to exterminate any and all users of a hosts file,
>> staticly defined networ
On Mon 27 May 2019 at 17:22:30 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 27 May 2019 03:25:21 pm Brian wrote:
>
> > On Mon 27 May 2019 at 13:42:46 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote:
> > > > On 2019-05-27, wrote:
> > > > > If Network Manager is giving you
On Monday 27 May 2019 03:42:52 pm Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-05-27 19:42:46)
>
> > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote:
> > > On 2019-05-27, wrote:
> > > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/
> > > > tree (I can't say much about N-M
On Monday 27 May 2019 03:25:21 pm Brian wrote:
> On Mon 27 May 2019 at 13:42:46 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote:
> > > On 2019-05-27, wrote:
> > > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/
> > > > tree (I can't say much about N
On Monday 27 May 2019 03:19:44 pm Reco wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 02:09:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 27 May 2019 08:58:14 am rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:36 AM Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote:
>
On Mon 27 May 2019 at 10:19:45 -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 05/27/2019 12:46 AM, Curt wrote:
> > On 2019-05-27, wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ tree
> > > (I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my boxes about
> > > te
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-05-27 19:42:46)
> On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote:
>
> > On 2019-05-27, wrote:
> > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/
> > > tree (I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my
> > > boxes about ten years ago: I w
On Mon 27 May 2019 at 13:42:46 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote:
>
> > On 2019-05-27, wrote:
> > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/
> > > tree (I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my boxes
> > > about ten
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 02:09:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 27 May 2019 08:58:14 am rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:36 AM Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote:
> >
> > > "you", below>
> >
> > > You are determined
On Monday 27 May 2019 08:58:14 am rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:36 AM Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote:
>
> "you", below>
>
> > You are determined to exterminate any and all users of a hosts file,
> > staticly defined network.
On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote:
> On 2019-05-27, wrote:
> > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/
> > tree (I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my boxes
> > about ten years ago: I was at a customer's, in his LAN via an
> > Ethernet, when
On 05/27/2019 01:51 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
Quoting Curt (2019-05-27 09:46:00)
On 2019-05-27, wrote:
If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/
tree (I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my boxes
about ten years ago: I was at a customer's, in his LAN
On 05/27/2019 12:46 AM, Curt wrote:
On 2019-05-27, wrote:
If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ tree
(I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my boxes about
ten years ago: I was at a customer's, in his LAN via an Ethernet, when
N-M suddenly saw a WLAN
On Monday 27 May 2019 02:56:07 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 12:41:36AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > I don't think so. ipv6 I'm sure is nice where its available. Where
> > it is not available, its a pain in the ass because even if you set
> > it up as a static
On 05/26/2019 11:03 PM, Andy Smith wrote:
There doesn't seem to be any point in interacting further.
Andy
Andy that's the most helpful thing you've said, you are trolling Gene a
longtime Debian Linux User who is having problems adjusting to not
having Debian Linux any longer, like so man
On Monday 27 May 2019 02:03:27 am Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 12:41:36AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote:
> > > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 11:25:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > No Andy, it didn't drink my last beer (
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 08:58:14AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:36 AM Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote:
>
> below>
>
> > You are determined to exterminate any and all users of a hosts file,
> > staticly defined network
On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:36 AM Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote:
> You are determined to exterminate any and all users of a hosts file,
> staticly defined network. Its ideal for small home networks.
Hmm, that's interesting -- is there an analog to or
Quoting Curt (2019-05-27 09:46:00)
> On 2019-05-27, wrote:
> > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/
> > tree (I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my boxes
> > about ten years ago: I was at a customer's, in his LAN via an
> > Ethernet, when N-M sudde
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 07:46:00AM -, Curt wrote:
> On 2019-05-27, wrote:
> >
> >
> > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ tree
[...]
> This is a grave bug. I suppose we can assume from your description that
> the seedier the wifi portal, the more likely it is to
On 2019-05-27, wrote:
>
>
> If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ tree
> (I can't say much about N-M, because I banned it from my boxes about
> ten years ago: I was at a customer's, in his LAN via an Ethernet, when
> N-M suddenly saw a WLAN out there, out the window and
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 12:41:36AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
[...]
> I don't think so. ipv6 I'm sure is nice where its available. Where it is
> not available, its a pain in the ass because even if you set it up as a
> static ipv4, N-M will tear it down in 5 minutes or less. And N-M is a
> de
Hello,
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 12:41:36AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote:
> > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 11:25:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > No Andy, it didn't drink my last beer (Murphy does that), or kill
> > > any kittens but it did totally
On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 11:25:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 25 May 2019 07:33:01 am Andy Smith wrote:
> > > My recollection was that none of that was ever established in any
> > > of the threads you posted here, so
Hello,
On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 11:25:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 25 May 2019 07:33:01 am Andy Smith wrote:
> > My recollection was that none of that was ever established in any of
> > the threads you posted here, so that is a really weird thing to keep
> > stating. Did IPv6 use a
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