Re: The Internet locks up Buster

2018-08-25 Thread Borden Rhodes
> I feel like we are missing a trick here. Even with a relatively slow I/O > device (I was faintly amused to see SSD in the list of relatively slow > devices, if SSD is slow what is fast?) it should eventually catch up > UNLESS something is generating an insane amount of I/O over a sustained > peri

Re: The Internet locks up Buster

2018-06-08 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Jun 07, 2018 at 02:13:17PM -0400, Borden Rhodes wrote: > > I.e. 12309 bug is back. It's obscure and presumably fixed (at least four > > times fixed) bug that happens with relatively slow filesystem (be it > > SSD/HDD/NFS or whatever) and a large amount of free RAM. I first > >

Re: The Internet locks up Buster

2018-06-07 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Thu, Jun 07, 2018 at 02:13:17PM -0400, Borden Rhodes wrote: > > I.e. 12309 bug is back. It's obscure and presumably fixed (at least four > > times fixed) bug that happens with relatively slow filesystem (be it > > SSD/HDD/NFS or whatever) and a large amount of free RAM. I first > > encountered t

Re: The Internet locks up Buster

2018-06-07 Thread Borden Rhodes
> I.e. 12309 bug is back. It's obscure and presumably fixed (at least four > times fixed) bug that happens with relatively slow filesystem (be it > SSD/HDD/NFS or whatever) and a large amount of free RAM. I first > encountered the thing back in 2.6.18 days, where it was presumably > implemented (as

Re: The Internet locks up Buster

2018-06-07 Thread Abdullah Ramazanoğlu
On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 05:38:20 -0400 Borden Rhodes said: > I use KDE. That may be part of the problem. > > I can trigger OOM with only with a browser (Firefox or Chromium) open > because it leaks memory on certain websites. Of course, I can trigger > it more quickly with other programs like LibreOff

Re: The Internet locks up Buster

2018-06-07 Thread Abdullah Ramazanoğlu
On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 11:48:54 +0300 Reco said: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2018 at 11:05:27AM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 10:52:01 +0300 Reco said: > > > > [--8<--] > > > > > Limit the size of dirty blocks cache. Kernel defaults are insanely large. > > > What I'm using here is

Re: The Internet locks up Buster

2018-06-07 Thread Borden Rhodes
> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 01:32:27 +0300 > The first questions regarding Out Of Memory situation is, how much memory do > you have, and what Desktop Environment and active programs (other than the > browser) have you been using when OOM-killer got triggered? I use KDE. That may be part of the proble

Re: The Internet locks up Buster

2018-06-07 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Jun 07, 2018 at 11:05:27AM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 10:52:01 +0300 Reco said: > > [--8<--] > > > I.e. 12309 bug is back. It's obscure and presumably fixed (at least four > > times fixed) bug that happens with relatively slow filesystem (be it >

Re: The Internet locks up Buster

2018-06-07 Thread Abdullah Ramazanoğlu
On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 10:52:01 +0300 Reco said: [--8<--] > I.e. 12309 bug is back. It's obscure and presumably fixed (at least four > times fixed) bug that happens with relatively slow filesystem (be it > SSD/HDD/NFS or whatever) and a large amount of free RAM. I first > encountered the thing back i

Re: The Internet locks up Buster

2018-06-07 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Jun 06, 2018 at 05:51:34PM -0400, Borden Rhodes wrote: > On 6 June 2018 at 15:26, wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:25:25PM -0400, Borden Rhodes wrote: > >> During the freeze, hard drive activity goes through the roof. Yes, my > >> hard drive is fine a

Re: The Internet locks up Buster

2018-06-06 Thread Borden Rhodes
On 6 June 2018 at 15:26, wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:25:25PM -0400, Borden Rhodes wrote: >> During the freeze, hard drive activity goes through the roof. Yes, my >> hard drive is fine and works normally when doing anything else. I also >> don't get these lockups when brows

Re: The Internet locks up Buster

2018-06-05 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:25:25PM -0400, Borden Rhodes wrote: > During the freeze, hard drive activity goes through the roof. Yes, my > hard drive is fine and works normally when doing anything else. I also > don't get these lockups when browsing in Windows. That looks like an OOM-ki

The Internet locks up Buster

2018-06-05 Thread Borden Rhodes
This is a follow-up to a question I posted here on 27 May for which I got no response. In it, I complained that my "new" laptop running Buster completely freezes when browsing certain Javascript-heavy websites (like Google Docs, Facebook and YouTube) on Firefox 52. Since that e-mail, I installed C