On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:19:50 +
Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To search for package names hit '/' followed by characters. It
> interactively searches for a match anywhere in the package name
> string. If it hasn't found what you want hit return to save the
> search string and the
On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 07:32, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> On 16/02/03 Paul Johnson did speaketh:
>
> > Well, that's because it also installs reccommends. Some folks prefer
> > that.
>
> Partly, but it's also because it tries to upgrade my whole system, when
> all I wanted to do was install a
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:58:24 +0100
Jeff Elkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I forget who said it, but someone said (if I understood correctly) that
> aptitude would remove dependencies when a metapackage was selected for
> deletion. That didn't work for me. I installed the kdelibs metapackage the
I forget who said it, but someone said (if I understood correctly) that
aptitude would remove dependencies when a metapackage was selected for
deletion. That didn't work for me. I installed the kdelibs metapackage then
attempted to delete it --- 'aptitude remove kdelibs' removed the 45Kb
metap
On 16/02/03 Paul Johnson did speaketh:
> Well, that's because it also installs reccommends. Some folks prefer
> that.
Partly, but it's also because it tries to upgrade my whole system, when
all I wanted to do was install a single package.
Mike
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On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 03:21:22PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:50:16 -0500
> Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > At the commnd line it is aptitude search '~d(browser|www)'
>
> Ah. ~ for where to search, d for descripton, (|) for the grouping and or?
Yes.
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Rob
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 09:36:21AM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> On 16/02/03 Brian Nelson did speaketh:
>
> > What if you want to honor a package's "Recommends" field with apt-get?
> > That'll take some extra effort that isn't necessary with aptitude. Or
> > what if you want to automatically
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 09:37:41AM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> I'm afraid of dselect. Every time I try to use it, it insists on
> installing a bunch of crap that I didn't ask for.
Well, that's because it also installs reccommends. Some folks prefer
that.
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On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 16:15:48 -0700 (MST)
Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would say persistent rather than retarded.
Retarded. The machine is not more intelligent than I am.
> Dselect works best if you have a good grasp of the packaging system,
> and consequently know when to use "Q
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 09:49:18PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 02:52:33PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> > There's one problem: dselect is retarded WRT "Recommends".
>
> You mean "was", nowadays. dpkg 1.10 fixed this long-standing bug.
You're correct; unfortunately vers
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:50:16 -0500
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At the commnd line it is aptitude search '~d(browser|www)'
Ah. ~ for where to search, d for descripton, (|) for the grouping and or?
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On Sun, 16 Feb 2003, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> There's one problem: dselect is retarded WRT "Recommends". That is,
<...>
> you. Annoying. Fortunately, you can tell dselect "No really, I want
> you to not install package foo" by typing 'Q' to exit the resolution
> screen, but it's still a PITA.
Steve Lamb wrote:
> Nono, I meant from the command line with aptitude search. If I do
> "apt-cache search browser www" I get all packages which have both browser and
> www in their name or description. If I try "aptitude search browser www" I
> get packages that match either www or browser.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 02:52:33PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> There's one problem: dselect is retarded WRT "Recommends".
You mean "was", nowadays. dpkg 1.10 fixed this long-standing bug.
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On 16/02/03 Alex Malinovich did speaketh:
> Actually, this is primarily the reason that I like dselect. That list of
> "crap" is all of the recommends and suggests that are present in the
> package. A few years ago, I would have said this to be unnecessary, but
> with the Debian repository having
Steve Lamb wrote:
> About the only thing I miss from apt proper is apt-cache search.
> Supposedly there is a way for aptitude to search names and descriptions but I
> have not stumbled on it yet.
It works much like mutt with ~l sequences to tell it what field to look
in.
/~mJoey Hess
/~dsom
Brian Nelson wrote:
> What if you want to honor a package's "Recommends" field with apt-get?
> That'll take some extra effort that isn't necessary with aptitude. Or
> what if you want to automatically remove the dependencies a package
> pulled in when you delete that package? Pretty tricky to do
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 02:07:15PM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 08:37, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> > On 16/02/03 Alex Malinovich did speaketh:
> >
> > > Personally, I generally stick to apt-get and apt-cache for most of my
> > > maintenance work. But I'll never give up dse
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:19:50 +
Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To search for package names hit '/' followed by characters. It
> interactively searches for a match anywhere in the package name string. If
> it hasn't found what you want hit return to save the search string and then
>
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:15:51 +
Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 16 Feb 2003 5:22 am, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:32:13 +1100
> > In interactive mode, v. v shows you all (v)ersions of the package
> > available and you can decide which to install.
> onl
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 09:35:03 -0500
"Michael P. Soulier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One of the best things about apt-get is that removals trace
> dependencies, so if I want to remove all X packages, all I have to do is
> apt-get remove on a base X library, and _everything_ that depends on X
>
On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 08:37, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> On 16/02/03 Alex Malinovich did speaketh:
>
> > Personally, I generally stick to apt-get and apt-cache for most of my
> > maintenance work. But I'll never give up dselect. Aptitude makes no
> > sense to me whatsoever. dselect just makes ever
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 09:35:03 -0500
"Michael P. Soulier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One of the best things about apt-get is that removals trace
> dependencies,
> so if I want to remove all X packages, all I have to do is apt-get
> remove on a base X library, and _everything_ that depends
On 16/02/03 Brian Nelson did speaketh:
> What if you want to honor a package's "Recommends" field with apt-get?
> That'll take some extra effort that isn't necessary with aptitude. Or
> what if you want to automatically remove the dependencies a package
> pulled in when you delete that package?
On 16/02/03 Alex Malinovich did speaketh:
> Personally, I generally stick to apt-get and apt-cache for most of my
> maintenance work. But I'll never give up dselect. Aptitude makes no
> sense to me whatsoever. dselect just makes everything really simple.
> Though, from what I understand, I'm more
On 15/02/03 Paul Johnson did speaketh:
> Why does everybody keep saying this when it's false? Aptitude and
> apt-get are getting thier information from the same place and making
> the same decisions. Both tell you quite specifically what is going on
> before it asks you to commit to it. Nobody
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On Sunday 16 Feb 2003 9:36 am, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> Personally, I generally stick to apt-get and apt-cache for most of my
> maintenance work. But I'll never give up dselect. Aptitude makes no
> sense to me whatsoever. dselect just makes everything
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On Sunday 16 Feb 2003 5:22 am, Steve Lamb wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:32:13 +1100
>
> Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I tried aptitude. Couldn't figure out how to specify
> > stable/testing/unstable packages. Can it do that?
>
> In inter
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On Sunday 16 Feb 2003 9:38 am, Steve Lamb wrote:
> About the only thing I miss from apt proper is apt-cache search.
> Supposedly there is a way for aptitude to search names and descriptions but
> I have not stumbled on it yet.
To search for packa
On 16 Feb 2003 03:36:35 -0600
Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But for just installing or finding a single package, I really don't see
> the point in starting up any frontend when I can just do "apt-cache
> search searchstring" & "apt-get install package".
You're right.
aptitude i
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 03:36:35AM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> Personally, I generally stick to apt-get and apt-cache for most of my
> maintenance work. But I'll never give up dselect. Aptitude makes no
> sense to me whatsoever. dselect just makes everything really simple.
> Though, from what I
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 01:13:25 -0800
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 09:21:49PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > Alrighty. Automatic flag. :) There, ya got it.
> Nope, no good. aptitude's automatic flagging is the same as apt's
> default behaviour, last I check
On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 22:05, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 02:29:39PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote:
> > I think you'd be much better off forgoing apt-get and using an
> > interactive package tool instead such as aptitude. Proper use of such a
> > tool will make it much easier to keep
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 09:21:49PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > before it asks you to commit to it. Nobody has yet demonstrated on
> > the list anything that you can do in aptitude easier or faster than
> > you can with some combination of apt-file, apt-cache and apt-get.
>
> Alrighty. Autom
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 02:29:39PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote:
>> I think you'd be much better off forgoing apt-get and using an
>> interactive package tool instead such as aptitude. Proper use of such a
>> tool will make it much easier to keep your packa
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 20:05:26 -0800
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why does everybody keep saying this when it's false? Aptitude and
> apt-get are getting thier information from the same place and making
> the same decisions. Both tell you quite specifically what is going on
> before it
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:32:13 +1100
Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tried aptitude. Couldn't figure out how to specify
> stable/testing/unstable packages. Can it do that?
In interactive mode, v. v shows you all (v)ersions of the package
available and you can decide which to install.
--
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 02:29:39PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote:
I think you'd be much better off forgoing apt-get and using an
interactive package tool instead such as aptitude. Proper use of such a
tool will make it much easier to keep your package system in stable
state.
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 02:29:39PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote:
> I think you'd be much better off forgoing apt-get and using an
> interactive package tool instead such as aptitude. Proper use of such a
> tool will make it much easier to keep your package system in stable
> state.
Why does everybod
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