Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-11 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 2:54 AM Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Sunday, 10 Oct 2021 at 16:53, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > I was using online fora on the U of Illinois' Plato system in 1977. > > Blast from that past that! I remember playing with the air flight > simulator with people connected across the

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 06:18:27PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > As you can see, the address at the top of the body was not mine. Mine > appears further down inside the body. Still inside angle brackets. I > suspect that's relevant to whatever bug bendel is suffering from. > > And yeah,

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
I had an interesting one earlier. Usually I get unsubscribed after one of my own posts. This time, I got unsubscribed after someone else's. Here's the tail end of what I received from bendel: > >: Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? >On Lu, 11 oct 21, 21:20:25, kaye n wrote: >> On Mo

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-11 Thread David Wright
On Mon 11 Oct 2021 at 10:52:22 (+0300), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 10 oct 21, 21:50:54, piorunz wrote: > > Now my turn. Just received a warning. > > > > This is deeply broken. > > > > "Dear subscriber, > > > > We've encountered some problems while sending listmail to your > > emailaddress pi

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-11 Thread Brian
On Mon 11 Oct 2021 at 10:47:21 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 10 oct 21, 22:33:15, piorunz wrote: > > On 10/10/2021 22:27, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > Years back there was an emailed newsletter titled Debian Weekly News. > > > At some point the author lost motivation as I recall and the news

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 oct 21, 08:49:08, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > [2] https://discourse.debian.org/ > This does not resolve. The correct URL would be with debian.net (unofficial service), but that isn't working either, probably taken down due to lack of interest from the community. Kind regards, Andrei --

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 oct 21, 11:22:07, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > I don't care for Discourse. At. All. Too much is in control of the > site admins. It can probably be argued that email has too little > control, however, my main gripe about the Discourse setups I have > registered with are that the admins lo

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-11 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Sunday, 10 Oct 2021 at 16:53, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > I was using online fora on the U of Illinois' Plato system in 1977. Blast from that past that! I remember playing with the air flight simulator with people connected across the continent. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.60 & org 9.5 on

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 oct 21, 21:50:54, piorunz wrote: > Now my turn. Just received a warning. > > This is deeply broken. > > "Dear subscriber, > > We've encountered some problems while sending listmail to your > emailaddress pior...@gmx.com. > > In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 oct 21, 22:33:15, piorunz wrote: > On 10/10/2021 22:27, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > Years back there was an emailed newsletter titled Debian Weekly News. > > At some point the author lost motivation as I recall and the newsletter > > effectively ceased. > > Oh that's sad > > > Keep in mind

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sun, Oct 10, 2021, 6:30 AM Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:41:07 +0100 > piorunz wrote: > > Hello piorunz, > > >I took it from Wikipedia: > > Taking stuff from a single wikipedia article without context or relevant > research is rarely a good idea. > Ugg. You're going to make me

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-10-10 at 17:27, Nate Bargmann wrote: > Years back there was an emailed newsletter titled Debian Weekly > News. At some point the author lost motivation as I recall and the > newsletter effectively ceased. Keep in mind that Debian is an > organization that depends on volunteer effort to ac

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread piorunz
On 10/10/2021 22:27, Nate Bargmann wrote: Years back there was an emailed newsletter titled Debian Weekly News. At some point the author lost motivation as I recall and the newsletter effectively ceased. Oh that's sad Keep in mind that Debian is an organization that depends on volunteer effor

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
Years back there was an emailed newsletter titled Debian Weekly News. At some point the author lost motivation as I recall and the newsletter effectively ceased. Keep in mind that Debian is an organization that depends on volunteer effort to accomplish its goals. I think you have identified an ar

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread piorunz
On 10/10/2021 19:14, Brian wrote: On Sun 10 Oct 2021 at 18:45:12 +0100, piorunz wrote: [...] I just wish Debian maintains online forums so people have a choice? AFAIK https://forums.debian.net/ is not official, not long time ago they didn't even had https. Now they do, but their main page debi

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread piorunz
Now my turn. Just received a warning. This is deeply broken. "Dear subscriber, We've encountered some problems while sending listmail to your emailaddress pior...@gmx.com. In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list: * debian-user 1 bounce out of 68 mails in one da

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Bret Busby
On 11/10/21 3:05 am, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: piorunz wrote on 10/10/2021 at 19:45:12+0200: On 10/10/2021 17:13, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Hi Piotr, No - it's a nuisance. In this instance, it's an isolated nuisance - one VPS host in OVH.net which may be misconfigured, accidentally or pu

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Bret Busby
On 11/10/21 3:19 am, Bret Busby wrote: On 11/10/21 3:05 am, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: piorunz wrote on 10/10/2021 at 19:45:12+0200: On 10/10/2021 17:13, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Hi Piotr, No - it's a nuisance. In this instance, it's an isolated nuisance - one VPS host in OVH.net which

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
piorunz wrote on 10/10/2021 at 19:45:12+0200: > On 10/10/2021 17:13, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > >> Hi Piotr, >> >> No - it's a nuisance. In this instance, it's an isolated nuisance - one VPS >> host in OVH.net which may be misconfigured, accidentally >> or purposefully. Listmasters are aware -

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Oct 2021 at 18:45:12 +0100, piorunz wrote: [...] > I just wish Debian maintains online forums so people have a choice? > AFAIK https://forums.debian.net/ is not official, not long time ago they > didn't even had https. Now they do, but their main page debian.net still > incorrectly redi

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread piorunz
On 10/10/2021 17:13, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Hi Piotr, No - it's a nuisance. In this instance, it's an isolated nuisance - one VPS host in OVH.net which may be misconfigured, accidentally or purposefully. Listmasters are aware - several of us have contacted them. It's an annoyance (much as w

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Sunday, 10 Oct 2021 at 06:37, Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE wrote: > Usenet anybody? Just one newsreader to rule them all, killfile etc ... +1 I hate all those different fora. End up not engaging; too much friction, too little time. Same applies to re-invented technologies such as slack etc. -- Eri

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 10:22:38AM +0100, piorunz wrote: > On 10/10/2021 10:08, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > No.  'Newer' = 'better' is a false equivalency. > > > > > > > +1 > > > > To paraphrase a local advertising jingle: > > E-mail lists are not good because they are old, they are old becau

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2021 10 Oct 07:50 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 10 October 2021 06:36:32 Reco wrote: > > [2] https://discourse.debian.org/ > This does not resolve. Good! I don't care for Discourse. At. All. Too much is in control of the site admins. It can probably be argued that email has too l

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 10 October 2021 06:36:32 Reco wrote: > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 08:33:03AM +0100, piorunz wrote: > > On 08/10/2021 18:10, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > I've just set postfix to drop anything from that host at SMTP > > > time, but I doubt it's going to work. I think they've found a > > > cannon

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread piorunz
On 10/10/2021 12:28, Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:41:07 +0100 piorunz wrote: Hello piorunz, I took it from Wikipedia: Taking stuff from a single wikipedia article without context or relevant research is rarely a good idea. This is not life & death research topic. I just learn

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 19:05:55 +1100 Keith Bainbridge wrote: Hello Keith, >.remember to look in regularly. And therein lies one of the main problems. :-( -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a wor

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:41:07 +0100 piorunz wrote: Hello piorunz, >I took it from Wikipedia: Taking stuff from a single wikipedia article without context or relevant research is rarely a good idea. Furthermore, never for get that, at any given moment, what you read on wikipedia may be wrong - d

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 09:47:14 +0100 piorunz wrote: Hello piorunz, Always remember that the Debian MLs continue to exist because they get used. In any case, Debian forums exist, as has been pointed out. They seem to be busier than I suspected, too. >First online forums were created, in fact, in

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Reco
On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 08:33:03AM +0100, piorunz wrote: > On 08/10/2021 18:10, Dan Ritter wrote: > > I've just set postfix to drop anything from that host at SMTP > > time, but I doubt it's going to work. I think they've found a > > cannon to annoy debian-user subscribers with. > > > Why we don't

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread piorunz
On 10/10/2021 11:21, Bret Busby wrote: First online forums were created, in fact, in 70s. Is that new to you? Interesting, given that The Internet did not exist in the 1970's... I took it from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum "Some of the first forum systems were the

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-10-10 at 06:21, Bret Busby wrote: > On 10/10/21 4:47 pm, piorunz wrote: > >> On 10/10/2021 08:48, Brad Rogers wrote: >>> No. 'Newer' = 'better' is a false equivalency. >> >> First online forums were created, in fact, in 70s. Is that new to >> you? > > Interesting, given that The Inter

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/10/21 4:47 pm, piorunz wrote: On 10/10/2021 08:48, Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 08:33:03 +0100 piorunz wrote: Hello piorunz, Isn't it time to switch to online forums? No.  'Newer' = 'better' is a false equivalency. First online forums were created, in fact, in 70s. Is tha

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 10:22:38AM +0100, piorunz wrote: > On 10/10/2021 10:08, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > No.  'Newer' = 'better' is a false equivalency. > > > > > > > +1 > > > > To paraphrase a local advertising jingle: > > E-mail lists are not good because they are old, they

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
On Sonntag, 10. Oktober 2021 05:47:14 -03 piorunz wrote: > On 10/10/2021 08:48, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 08:33:03 +0100 > > piorunz wrote: > > > > Hello piorunz, > > > >> Isn't it time to switch to online forums? > > > > No. 'Newer' = 'better' is a false equivalency. > > Fir

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread piorunz
On 10/10/2021 10:08, Richard Owlett wrote: No.  'Newer' = 'better' is a false equivalency. +1 To paraphrase a local advertising jingle: E-mail lists are not good because they are old, they are old because they work well. Dozens of users being kicked out (unsubscribed) on daily basis is "wo

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 10/10/2021 02:48 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 08:33:03 +0100 piorunz wrote: Hello piorunz, Isn't it time to switch to online forums? No. 'Newer' = 'better' is a false equivalency. +1 To paraphrase a local advertising jingle: E-mail lists are not good because they are o

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread piorunz
On 10/10/2021 08:48, Brad Rogers wrote: On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 08:33:03 +0100 piorunz wrote: Hello piorunz, Isn't it time to switch to online forums? No. 'Newer' = 'better' is a false equivalency. First online forums were created, in fact, in 70s. Is that new to you? Also, forums don't suff

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 08:33:03 +0100 piorunz wrote: Hello piorunz, >Isn't it time to switch to online forums? No. 'Newer' = 'better' is a false equivalency. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent" / _)rad "Is it only me that has a work

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 10/10/21 18:33, piorunz wrote: Why we don't have this? https://forum.manjaro.org/ Good afternoon All Last time this question was asked, I said I wouldn't use it. I've changed my mind. If a forum or similar is set up, I'll keep it open and somehow remember to look in regularly. -- All

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread john doe
On 10/10/2021 9:33 AM, piorunz wrote: On 08/10/2021 18:10, Dan Ritter wrote: It just happened to me. I think this is actually an attack on debian-user. Nothing in my mail logs (and, believe me, there's a lot of spam recorded in there.) I've just set postfix to drop anything from that host at

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 10.10.2021 12:33, piorunz wrote: On 08/10/2021 18:10, Dan Ritter wrote: It just happened to me. I think this is actually an attack on debian-user. Nothing in my mail logs (and, believe me, there's a lot of spam recorded in there.) I've just set postfix to drop anything from that host at S

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread piorunz
On 08/10/2021 18:10, Dan Ritter wrote: It just happened to me. I think this is actually an attack on debian-user. Nothing in my mail logs (and, believe me, there's a lot of spam recorded in there.) I've just set postfix to drop anything from that host at SMTP time, but I doubt it's going to w

Re: Then it happened to me...

2021-10-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 01:10:58PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > It just happened to me. And it still happens. Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 06:51:51 + (UTC) From: debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org To: recovery...@enotuniq.net Subject: You have been removed from the list > I've just s

Then it happened to me...

2021-10-08 Thread Dan Ritter
It just happened to me. I think this is actually an attack on debian-user. Nothing in my mail logs (and, believe me, there's a lot of spam recorded in there.) I've just set postfix to drop anything from that host at SMTP time, but I doubt it's going to work. I think they've found a cannon to a