Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-25 Thread Katipo
Jules Dubois wrote: I still have this question: If I can find some combination of installable or upgradable packages which removes a "broken" condition, can I just go ahead and install them? (I must have a reliable system for the next three weeks or so and then I can break it.) I think the im

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-25 Thread Richard Lyons
On Sunday 25 April 2004 10:07, Jules Dubois wrote: [...] > I still have this question: > > If I can find some combination of installable or upgradable packages > which removes a "broken" condition, can I just go ahead and install > them? (I must have a reliable system for the next three weeks or s

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-25 Thread Jules Dubois
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on Sun, 25 Apr 2004 05:47:24 +0800, Katipo wrote: > Jules Dubois wrote: > >> Libranet decided a few months ago to modify my sources.list to >> use unstable instead of testing. >> > When the Debian server compromise happened, Libranet installed their own > mirror

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-24 Thread Katipo
Jules Dubois wrote: Libranet decided a few months ago to modify my sources.list to useunstable instead of testing. I'm now finding there are about 50 packages I can't upgrade because of unsatisfied dependencies. Hello Jules, I had the same problem, I've got Libranet 2.8.1 installed. When the

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-24 Thread Jules Dubois
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:27:12 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Nine reasons why you should be using aptitude instead of apt-get or > dselect. > [snip] I keep hearing about the advantages of aptitude (over, for example, Synaptic), but your article, Mr. Hess, was excellent.

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-23 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-04-23, Michael D Schleif penned: > > >> Search for "TRACKING UNUSED PACKAGES" in /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README >> for more details. > > Although, I found `unused' and other information in that file, `TRACKING > UNUSED PACKAGES' is not in my file. What version of aptitude are you > running

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-23 Thread Michael D Schleif
* "Monique Y. Mudama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:04:23:17:41:52-] scribed: > On 2004-04-21, Michael D Schleif penned: > > > > I would have been using aptitude long ago, _except_ for this hurdle on > > my systems: > > > > # sudo aptitude -P upgrade > > Password: > > Reading Package Lists... Done

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-23 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-04-21, Michael D Schleif penned: > > I would have been using aptitude long ago, _except_ for this hurdle on > my systems: > > # sudo aptitude -P upgrade > Password: > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree =20 > Reading extended state information... Done I think thi

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-21 Thread Joey Hess
Michael D Schleif wrote: > The following packages have been kept back: > bastille x-window-system-core > The following packages will be upgraded: > arts dictionaries-common fontconfig gnome-vlc kernel-package libarts1 > libartsc0 libdevmapper1.00 libfontconfig1 libfontconfig1-dev > libht

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-21 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:27:12PM -0400, Joey Hess insinuated: > J.S.Sahambi wrote: > > I have been using apt and dselect for some time. Can any body tell me > > about the advantages/disadvantages of dselect and aptitude? and which is > > better? > > Nine reasons why you should be using aptitude in

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-21 Thread Michael D Schleif
* Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:04:20:22:27:12-0400] scribed: > J.S.Sahambi wrote: > > I have been using apt and dselect for some time. Can any body tell me > > about the advantages/disadvantages of dselect and aptitude? and which is > > better? > > Nine reasons why you should be using apt

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-21 Thread Clive Menzies
On (20/04/04 22:27), Joey Hess wrote: > J.S.Sahambi wrote: > > I have been using apt and dselect for some time. Can any body tell me > > about the advantages/disadvantages of dselect and aptitude? and which is > > better? > > Nine reasons why you should be using aptitude instead of apt-get or ds

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-20 Thread Joey Hess
J.S.Sahambi wrote: > I have been using apt and dselect for some time. Can any body tell me > about the advantages/disadvantages of dselect and aptitude? and which is > better? Nine reasons why you should be using aptitude instead of apt-get or dselect. 1. aptitude can look just like apt-get

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-20 Thread John Hasler
Katipo writes: > I believe 'dpkg --purge ' does this also. No. That removes package and all it's configuration files, which --remove leaves in place. -- John Hasler You may treat this work as if it [EMAIL PROTECTED] were in the public domain. Dancing Horse HillI

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-20 Thread W Paul Mills
Karsten M. Self wrote: > The short answer, though, is that you'd want aptitude over dselect in > virtually all instances. Though apt-get is still useful. Look also at > synaptic and, um, the other stuff. Yet I have found instances when dselect seems to handle errors better than aptitude. At lea

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-20 Thread Katipo
Graham Williams wrote: On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 06:37, Alex Malinovich wrote: On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 15:08, Florian Ernst wrote: [...] I prefer dselect for the one task that I use it for, and that's dist-upgrades with the dependency resolution screen. The rest of the time I use wajig. The o

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-20 Thread Graham Williams
On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 06:37, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 15:08, Florian Ernst wrote: [...] > I prefer dselect for the one task that I use it for, and that's > dist-upgrades with the dependency resolution screen. The rest of the > time I use wajig. The only thing that I can't do t

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-20 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello Alex! On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 03:37:01PM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: > I prefer dselect for the one task that I use it for, and that's > dist-upgrades with the dependency resolution screen. The rest of the > time I use wajig. The only thing that I can't do that I wish I could > (And someon

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-20 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 15:08, Florian Ernst wrote: --snip-- > Nowadays I solely use aptitude and apt-get source / build-dep (and > occasionally a direct dpkg). The only thing I miss is dselect's > feature to show me a dependency resolution screen directly after > (de)selecting a package, but aptitud

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-20 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello Karsten! On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 12:39:48PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > aptitude is pretty much a replacement for both dselect (interactive) and > apt-get (command line). With near but not-quite drop-in replacement of > the latter. The strengths go beyond this to include logging of sys

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
ntages of dselect and aptitude? and which is > > better? > > To dselect or aptitude, that is the question; > Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer > The slings and arrows of outragous dselect > where, alas, Sarge can barely meet Sid > Or to take arms against a s

Re: To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-20 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello J.S.! On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 11:51:19AM +0530, J.S.Sahambi wrote: > I have been using apt and dselect for some time. Can any body tell me > about the advantages/disadvantages of dselect and aptitude? and which is > better? To dselect or aptitude, that is the question; Whe

To dselect or aptitude, that is the question

2004-04-19 Thread J.S.Sahambi
I have been using apt and dselect for some time. Can any body tell me about the advantages/disadvantages of dselect and aptitude? and which is better? Thanks in advance JSS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]