Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive (now Linux for vision impaired)

2011-08-19 Thread Lisi
On Friday 19 August 2011 01:38:58 Scott Ferguson wrote: But most of the recommendations I get are from sighted people ie. Vinux is supposed to be good You will have noticed that I didn't mention it! (The Adriane version of Knoppix is, of course, good because Adriane Knopper helped to design

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive (now Linux for vision impaired)

2011-08-19 Thread Lisi
On Friday 19 August 2011 01:38:58 Scott Ferguson wrote: For me the biggest problem is CD labels - my writing makes the reading even harder. Now if someone created a simple system that announced the title of any cd placed in the drive based on information burned to the CD Can you read

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive (now Linux for vision impaired)

2011-08-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 19/08/11 19:33, Lisi wrote: On Friday 19 August 2011 01:38:58 Scott Ferguson wrote: But most of the recommendations I get are from sighted people ie. Vinux is supposed to be good You will have noticed that I didn't mention it! I did, the significance escaped me. Now I know better. (The

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive (now Linux for vision impaired)

2011-08-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 19/08/11 19:34, Lisi wrote: On Friday 19 August 2011 01:38:58 Scott Ferguson wrote: For me the biggest problem is CD labels - my writing makes the reading even harder. Now if someone created a simple system that announced the title of any cd placed in the drive based on information burned

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive (now Linux for vision impaired)

2011-08-19 Thread Lisi
On Friday 19 August 2011 11:34:01 Scott Ferguson wrote: Vinux is virtually useless [snip]  In fact, I agree with you that it is unusable. I was over-dramatising - it has some uses:- ;drink coaster ;memory aid for recalling slavic words that end in hard consonants. ;decongestant (it

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive (now Linux for vision impaired)

2011-08-19 Thread Doug
On 08/19/2011 06:39 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 19/08/11 19:34, Lisi wrote: On Friday 19 August 2011 01:38:58 Scott Ferguson wrote: For me the biggest problem is CD labels - my writing makes the reading even harder. Now if someone created a simple system that announced the title of any cd

Re: Partition not mounted. Was Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-18 Thread Martin McCormick
Arno Schuring writes: There might be. Try umount -f The information about current mounts is recorded in /etc/mtab (basically an old relic, but sadly still not put down). The real (kernel) information about mounts is in /proc/mounts. When copying root filesystems or working on a read-only /

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-18 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 18 August 2011 03:55:30 Scott Ferguson wrote: As Martin isn't going to use a Live CD approach - it's a moot point. (though Knoppix Adriane will probably do the job, and includes parted) I understood (possibly erroneously) that Martin's problem wasn't that he doesn't know about

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive (now Linux for vision impaired)

2011-08-18 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 19/08/11 06:39, Lisi wrote: On Thursday 18 August 2011 03:55:30 Scott Ferguson wrote: As Martin isn't going to use a Live CD approach - it's a moot point. (though Knoppix Adriane will probably do the job, and includes parted) I understood (possibly erroneously) that Martin's problem

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive (now Linux for vision impaired)

2011-08-18 Thread Karl O. Pinc
On 08/18/2011 07:38:58 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: For me the biggest problem is CD labels - my writing makes the reading even harder. Now if someone created a simple system that announced the title of any cd placed in the drive based on information burned to the CD See

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive (now Linux for vision impaired)

2011-08-18 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 19/08/11 14:29, Karl O. Pinc wrote: On 08/18/2011 07:38:58 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: For me the biggest problem is CD labels - my writing makes the reading even harder. Now if someone created a simple system that announced the title of any cd placed in the drive based on information

Re: Partition not mounted. Was Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-17 Thread Arno Schuring
Martin McCormick (mar...@x.it.okstate.edu on 2011-08-16 06:30 -0500): Is there a way to convince fdisk that hdb1 is not mounted? There might be. Try umount -f The information about current mounts is recorded in /etc/mtab (basically an old relic, but sadly still not put down). The real

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-17 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 17/08/11 12:15, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote: 4. use rsync to copy the files. eg.:- # rsync -azr /media/source0/ /media/dest0 [rinse and repeat until all partitions copied] Rsync does not replicate

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-17 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote: On 17/08/11 12:15, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: and you need to use the -x setting to avoid descending to other partitions. What do you mean?? That sounds very bad - how come I've never noticed this

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-16 Thread Ivan Shmakov
Rob Owens row...@ptd.net writes: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 06:12:24PM +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote: Martin McCormick mar...@x.it.okstate.edu writes: Ivan Shmakov writes: It's possible to dd(1) just the filesystem (partition) instead of the whole disk. Moreover, the filesystem can be

Partition not mounted. Was Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-16 Thread Martin McCormick
After using dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=10M, I got a copy of a boot drive's image on what will eventually be the new boot drive. The new drive is about half again as big as the old drive and research plus several previous answers from this list has lead me to try the following strategy: Use

Re: Partition not mounted. Was Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-16 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 06:30:41 -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: After using dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=10M, I got a copy of a boot drive's image on what will eventually be the new boot drive. Clonezilla does the migration job quite well. If the target disk/partition is bigger than the old

Re: Partition not mounted. Was Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-16 Thread Martin McCormick
You write: I'm not sure in what stage of the migration are you right now (I did not follow the full thread), but have you tried to boot from a LiveCD and work from there? I have been avoiding that. I don't know if this is peculiar to Dell mother boards, but every so often, my CMOS boot

Re: Partition not mounted. Was Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-16 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:21:05 -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: You write: I'm not sure in what stage of the migration are you right now (I did not follow the full thread), but have you tried to boot from a LiveCD and work from there? I have been avoiding that. I don't know if this is

Re: Partition not mounted. Was Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-16 Thread Martin McCormick
you write: Have you tried with gparted or cfdisk? The first it's a GUI based tool which usually manages very well these situations and the latter is a more convenient tool (text based) when it comes to manage partitions from command line. I haven't tried cfdisk yet so I will give it a try to

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote: 4. use rsync to copy the files. eg.:- # rsync -azr /media/source0/ /media/dest0 [rinse and repeat until all partitions copied] Rsync does not replicate SELinux settings. And the way you are using it does

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-15 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
With the rsync command you should use an exclude-file (see --exclude option) containing a list of directories and files not to be transferred like ./lost+found** ./run** ./dev/** ./sys/** ./tmp/** etc (see rsync manual). After transferring the files you may have to adapt files like /etc/fstab

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-15 Thread Martin McCormick
Scott Ferguson writes: That's part of the problem... of course all the UUIDs in fstab and grub.cfg will refer to your old drive... ;-p Probably *not* the recommended way to do it, but... Of course! I will not quote any more, here, but that sounds like a plan. Many thanks.

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-15 Thread Martin McCormick
Ivan Shmakov writes: It's possible to dd(1) just the filesystem (partition) instead of the whole disk. Moreover, the filesystem can be downsized prior to that with resize2fs(8), thus the destination partition may be smaller than the source one.

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-15 Thread Ivan Shmakov
Martin McCormick mar...@x.it.okstate.edu writes: Ivan Shmakov writes: It's possible to dd(1) just the filesystem (partition) instead of the whole disk. Moreover, the filesystem can be downsized prior to that with resize2fs(8), thus the destination partition may be smaller than the

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-15 Thread Martin McCormick
Ivan Shmakov writes: resize2fs(8) after dd(1) on the destination partition ? it'll make the additional space available to the filesystem. That may be the easiest approach to not get wrong if that is the case. The old drive is the master boot drive on /dev/hda. The new

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-15 Thread Arno Schuring
Hi Martin, As luck would have it, I did just that this weekend. Except that my system used lvm for all partitions, which massively simplified the procedure for me. Martin McCormick (mar...@x.it.okstate.edu on 2011-08-14 21:32 -0500): I have a 10-gigabyte hard drive that sounds like a 747

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-15 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 06:12:24PM +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote: Martin McCormick mar...@x.it.okstate.edu writes: Ivan Shmakov writes: It's possible to dd(1) just the filesystem (partition) instead of the whole disk. Moreover, the filesystem can be downsized prior to that with

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-15 Thread Rob Owens
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 09:32:12PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: I have a 10-gigabyte hard drive that sounds like a 747 just before takeoff so the time has come to replace it. I replaced it with a 16-gigabyte SATA flash drive and IDE adaptor as the system it runs on is a little too old

Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-14 Thread Martin McCormick
I have a 10-gigabyte hard drive that sounds like a 747 just before takeoff so the time has come to replace it. I replaced it with a 16-gigabyte SATA flash drive and IDE adaptor as the system it runs on is a little too old to handle a large drive. If I use dd to copy the 10-gig

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-14 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 15/08/11 12:32, Martin McCormick wrote: I have a 10-gigabyte hard drive that sounds like a 747 just before takeoff so the time has come to replace it. I replaced it with a 16-gigabyte SATA flash drive and IDE adaptor as the system it runs on is a little too old to handle a large

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive [addendum]

2011-08-14 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 15/08/11 13:28, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 15/08/11 12:32, Martin McCormick wrote: I have a 10-gigabyte hard drive that sounds like a 747 just before takeoff so the time has come to replace it. I replaced it with a 16-gigabyte SATA flash drive and IDE adaptor as the system it runs on is a

Re: Transplanting old System to New Drive

2011-08-14 Thread Ivan Shmakov
Martin McCormick mar...@x.it.okstate.edu writes: […] If I use dd to copy the 10-gig drive over to the new drive as in: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=20M it works when I remove the old screamer drive, change the jumper on the new drive to Master and boot but this is not very efficient