Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread Bret Busby
> I have now found that, against my wishes, the Linux installations >> > > > were done as "legacy BIOS" installations, instead of UEFI/GPT >> > > > installations, so I now have a system that (after repairing the >> > > > nasty >> >

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread Bret Busby
On 12/03/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 11/03/2015, David Wright wrote: >> Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): >> >>> I have now found that, against my wishes, the Linux installations were >>> done as "legacy BIOS" installations, instead of UEFI/GP

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
nux installations > > > > were done as "legacy BIOS" installations, instead of UEFI/GPT > > > > installations, so I now have a system that (after repairing the nasty > > > > PC-BSD installation damage) kind of works, but, the UEFI/GPT part of > > &g

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread David Wright
Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): > On Wednesday 11 March 2015 15:46:55 David Wright wrote: > > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > > > I have now found that, against my wishes, the Linux installations were > > > done as "legacy BIOS&quo

Re: Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > I have now found that, against my wishes, the Linux installations were > done as "legacy BIOS" installations, instead of UEFI/GPT > installations, so I now have a system that (after repairing the nasty > PC-BSD installation dama

Debian 7 and UEFI/GPT

2015-03-11 Thread Bret Busby
Hello. As has previously been posted, I have a UEFI system, which came with MS Win8 installed. I then installed Debian 7 on the system, and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, and, after the Debian 7 installation, the MS Win8 installation, was no longer accessible. However, I have found that the MS Win8

Re: UEFI Secure Boot and enabling W8/Linux dual boot - some links/refs

2014-08-30 Thread Florian Weimer
ause I shut off Secure Boot from > the BIOS instead of Windows. I once disabled Secure Boot by swapping out the mainboard, and Windows didn't care about that, either. Curiously, the previous mainboard (which had Secure Boot enabled) was bricked by a firmware update gone wrong, precisely the t

Re: UEFI Secure Boot and enabling W8/Linux dual boot - some links/refs

2014-08-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 10:51:19 +0100 Ron Leach wrote: > 3. a Use a 'trusted' bootloader, such as: > > http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20303.html > > or > > 3. b Disable 'Secure Boot', which has to be done from within Windows, > not from a cold boot int

UEFI Secure Boot and enabling W8/Linux dual boot - some links/refs

2014-08-29 Thread Ron Leach
Here are some links to articles discussing UEFI's secure Boot and some implications for configuring a dual-boot Windows 8 & Linux system. 1. What is the UEFI Secure Boot loading process? http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-security/uefi-secure-boot-in-w

Re: UEFI

2014-07-14 Thread Slavko
of the boot process by modifiying boot blocks (grub's phase1, > etc), etc, exists and is very hard to detect. "Know what you're > booting" is basically the goal of UEFI secure boot, and all users can > benefit from that. From my point of view: Who will know what

Re: UEFI

2014-07-13 Thread Noah Meyerhans
quot;Know what you're booting" is basically the goal of UEFI secure boot, and all users can benefit from that. noah signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 18:16:00 +0200 Tony van der Hoff wrote: Hello Tony, >Cobblers. Txtspk came about because kids (the main users of the form) >are lazy, and their thumbs get tired. ;-) Okay. Or that. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radne

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-13 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 13/07/14 14:15, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 23:58:28 +1200 > Chris Bannister wrote: > > Hello Chris, > >> Sorry, it was my idea of a joke. > > No need to apologise. I guessed you were making a point humorously. > Your post was the ideal message to reply to from my PoV. I shoul

Re: [OT] Abbrevition or contraction [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 13 July 2014 13:31:45 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 16:33:52 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > > On 7/11/2014 3:25 PM, Brian wrote: > > > > You are going to hate me for this: there is no "." after Mr; it is a > > > > contraction. (Off-topic is that way --->). > > >

Re: [OT] Abbrevition or contraction [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-13 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 7/13/2014 8:31 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 16:33:52 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> >>> On 7/11/2014 3:25 PM, Brian wrote: >>> You are going to hate me for this: there is no "." after Mr; it is a contraction. (Off-topic is that way --->). >>> >>> No,

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 23:58:28 +1200 Chris Bannister wrote: Hello Chris, >Sorry, it was my idea of a joke. No need to apologise. I guessed you were making a point humorously. Your post was the ideal message to reply to from my PoV. I should have put a smiley in to denote I'd seen the joke. Tex

Re: [OT] Abbrevition or contraction [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 16:33:52 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > > On 7/11/2014 3:25 PM, Brian wrote: > > > > > You are going to hate me for this: there is no "." after Mr; it is a > > > contraction. (Off-topic is that way --->). > > > > > > > No, it's an abbreviation, not a contraction.

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 13 July 2014 12:58:28 Chris Bannister wrote: > Sorry, it was my idea of a joke. I thought it was funny. You can't please - or amuse - everybody! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-13 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 7/13/2014 7:31 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 18:01:27 +1200 > Chris Bannister wrote: > > Hello Chris, > >> r u sure th't stil aplys 2day? > > Doesn't matter; Why do men's shirts button one way, and ladies' blouses > the other? > > Although the *reasons* for it no longer exis

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 12:31:49PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 18:01:27 +1200 > Chris Bannister wrote: > > Hello Chris, > > >r u sure th't stil aplys 2day? > > Doesn't matter; Why do men's shirts button one way, and ladies' blouses > the other? > > Although the *reasons* f

Re: [OT] Abbrevition or contraction [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-13 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 7/13/2014 2:59 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 07:52:38PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 7/11/2014 5:06 PM, Brian wrote: >>> On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 16:33:52 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> On 7/11/2014 3:25 PM, Brian wrote: > You are going to hate me for this

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 18:01:27 +1200 Chris Bannister wrote: Hello Chris, >r u sure th't stil aplys 2day? Doesn't matter; Why do men's shirts button one way, and ladies' blouses the other? Although the *reasons* for it no longer exist the habit, quite often, persists. -- Regards _ /

Re: [OT] Abbrevition or contraction [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 13 July 2014 05:48:35 Doug wrote: > I wonder if they use "bitten" or is that gone too? We use bitten. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org

Re: UEFI

2014-07-13 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 12 Jul 2014 23:55:38 -0700 Noah Meyerhans napísal: > 3. Secure boot. This is a bit weird, because nobody but Microsoft is > apparently interested in investing the resources into the > infrastructure to manage the PKI associated with this. Interestingly, > Microsoft is apparently h

Re: UEFI

2014-07-13 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 03:53:22PM +0200, B wrote: > BTW, sorry to hijack a bit this thread, but what could > be the advantages to use UEFI (I just have Debian on my > laptop and disabled it from ancient posts I read). There was a good talk at this year's LinuxFest Northwest on

Re: [OT] Abbrevition or contraction [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 07:52:38PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 7/11/2014 5:06 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 16:33:52 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > > >> On 7/11/2014 3:25 PM, Brian wrote: > >> > >>> You are going to hate me for this: there is no "." after Mr; it is a > >>> contr

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 09:18:51PM -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > I'm old school taught, too.. To bring it more or less on topic, I > noticed A LOT of changes like that slowly worked their way into > acceptance around the same time the word "computer" was becoming more > commonly uttered.. Not al

Re: [OT] Abbrevition or contraction [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-12 Thread Doug
On 07/12/2014 10:46 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 7/12/2014 3:50 PM, Brian wrote: On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 19:52:38 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 7/11/2014 5:06 PM, Brian wrote: On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 16:33:52 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 7/11/2014 3:25 PM, Brian wrote: You are going to hat

Re: [OT] Abbrevition or contraction [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-12 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 7/12/2014 3:50 PM, Brian wrote: > On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 19:52:38 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >> On 7/11/2014 5:06 PM, Brian wrote: >>> On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 16:33:52 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> On 7/11/2014 3:25 PM, Brian wrote: > You are going to hate me for this: there is

Re: [OT] Abbrevition or contraction [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-12 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 19:52:38 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 7/11/2014 5:06 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 16:33:52 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > > >> On 7/11/2014 3:25 PM, Brian wrote: > >> > >>> You are going to hate me for this: there is no "." after Mr; it is a > >>> contract

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 12 July 2014 01:36:21 Doug wrote: > in what year did the British decide that a pint should have > 20 ounces in it? You do realise that it is fluid ounces in a pint not ounces - and that they are themselves a different size from American ones? Don't start trying to sort out British a

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:18:51 -0400 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 7/11/14, Brad Rogers wrote: > > This is an international list; Different countries have different > > rules of grammar and spelling, even when the language is ostensibly > > the same. > > > > In any case, Mr. used to always have a

Re: [OT] Abbrevition or contraction [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-12 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-11, Brian wrote: > > Does the following make sense? > >Dr Moriarty, Prof. Andrews and Miss Gladstone all taught at the >University of St Andrews and worked at the BBC? Moriarty! -- H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsu

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:18:51 -0400 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: Hello Cindy-Sue, >commonly uttered.. Not all that long ago, every comma, period, AND >space that could be dropped from usage had a visually measurable data >storage impact on those tiny hard drives of (also) not very long I was going to

Ounce Topic (was Re: [was UEFI] someone does)

2014-07-11 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Doug wrote: > > [...] A more interesting > question: in what year did the British decide that a pint should have > 20 ounces in it? Must have been a bunch of beer-drinkers who decided > to make that change! > > (Obviously it worked in that direction, not the other

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread John Hasler
Doug writes: > A more interesting question: in what year did the British decide that > a pint should have 20 ounces in it? 1824. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Conta

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Bzzzz
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:36:21 -0400 Doug wrote: > (Obviously it worked in that direction, not the other way, since > the old saying exists: "A pint's a pound the world around." And > now it ain't!) This was because we found our anglo-saxons friends a tiny bit embarrassed by such things, that we

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 7/11/14, Brad Rogers wrote: > This is an international list; Different countries have different rules > of grammar and spelling, even when the language is ostensibly the same. > > In any case, Mr. used to always have a full stop after it, much as etc. > did/does. The dropping of the stop came

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Doug
On 07/11/2014 07:10 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:25:51 +0100 Brian wrote: Hello Brian, You are going to hate me for this: there is no "." after Mr; it is a contraction. (Off-topic is that way --->). This is an international list; Different countries have different

Re: [OT] Abbrevition or contraction [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 7/11/2014 5:06 PM, Brian wrote: > On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 16:33:52 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >> On 7/11/2014 3:25 PM, Brian wrote: >> >>> You are going to hate me for this: there is no "." after Mr; it is a >>> contraction. (Off-topic is that way --->). >>> >> >> No, it's an abbreviat

Re: [OT] Abbrevition or contraction [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Joel Rees
FWIW -- 2014/07/12 6:07 "Brian" : > > On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 16:33:52 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > > On 7/11/2014 3:25 PM, Brian wrote: > > > > > You are going to hate me for this: there is no "." after Mr; it is a You could point, instead, to an appropriate I11N list, perhaps, as well? > > No

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 20:25:51 +0100 Brian wrote: Hello Brian, >You are going to hate me for this: there is no "." after Mr; it is a >contraction. (Off-topic is that way --->). This is an international list; Different countries have different rules of grammar and spelling, even when the

Re: [OT] Abbrevition or contraction [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 16:33:52 -0400 Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 7/11/2014 3:25 PM, Brian wrote: > > > You are going to hate me for this: there is no "." after Mr; it is a > > contraction. (Off-topic is that way --->). > > > > No, it's an abbreviation, not a contraction. As a contraction i

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 11 July 2014 21:21:09 Curt wrote: > Well we American slobs put a period (at least my generation was taught > to do so). We Brits too. It is seen as an abbreviation. Inaccuratrely, perhaps. But that is how it is spelt. Think of Mrs. That is an abbreviation of Mistress, but is now u

Re: [OT] Abbrevition or contraction [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 16:33:52 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 7/11/2014 3:25 PM, Brian wrote: > > > You are going to hate me for this: there is no "." after Mr; it is a > > contraction. (Off-topic is that way --->). > > > > No, it's an abbreviation, not a contraction. As a contraction

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 20:21:09 +, Curt wrote: > On 2014-07-11, Brian wrote: > > > > You are going to hate me for this: there is no "." after Mr; it is a > > contraction. (Off-topic is that way --->). > > > > Well we American slobs put a period (at least my generation was taught > to

Re: [OT] Abbrevition or contraction [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Bzzzz
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 16:33:52 -0400 Jerry Stuckle wrote: > No, it's an abbreviation, not a contraction. As a contraction it > would be M'r. Let's say it's an abbreviaction to avoid abrasion ;) -- Blackout restrictions apply. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [OT] Abbrevition or contraction [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 7/11/2014 3:25 PM, Brian wrote: > You are going to hate me for this: there is no "." after Mr; it is a > contraction. (Off-topic is that way --->). > No, it's an abbreviation, not a contraction. As a contraction it would be M'r. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ..

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-11, Brian wrote: > > You are going to hate me for this: there is no "." after Mr; it is a > contraction. (Off-topic is that way --->). > Well we American slobs put a period (at least my generation was taught to do so). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.de

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 18:36:54 +, Curt wrote: > On 2014-07-11, Brian wrote: > >> > >> I was going to give the reply a yellow card for unnecessary roughness > >> but realized I'd be mixing my sports metaphors. > > > > You'd not see the reply to the reply as meriting a red card on the > > grou

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-11, Brian wrote: >> >> I was going to give the reply a yellow card for unnecessary roughness >> but realized I'd be mixing my sports metaphors. > > You'd not see the reply to the reply as meriting a red card on the > grounds of being obviously rhetorical? > Nah. Too severe. BTW, have

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 17:26:57 +, Curt wrote: > On 2014-07-11, Steve Litt wrote: > >> > >> Haneke is a mastermind, but things are rather different this side of > >> the ocean. Your gonna need to bring hell, not just play silly. > > > > What does this reply, to a perfectly clear question, eve

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-11, Steve Litt wrote: >> >> Haneke is a mastermind, but things are rather different this side of >> the ocean. Your gonna need to bring hell, not just play silly. > > What does this reply, to a perfectly clear question, even mean? > I was going to give the reply a yellow card for unne

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:29:41 -0300 André Nunes Batista wrote: > On Wed, 2014-07-09 at 13:12 +0100, Benedito Junior wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I bought a new laptop and the debian does not install on it because > > the uefi. Does anyone here known how to install

Re: [was UEFI] someone does

2014-07-11 Thread André Nunes Batista
On Wed, 2014-07-09 at 13:12 +0100, Benedito Junior wrote: > Hello, > > I bought a new laptop and the debian does not install on it because the > uefi. Does anyone here known how to install the Debian using a UEFI > instalation like Ubuntu does? So I heard your question, but it di

Re: UEFI

2014-07-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:44:44 -0600 Bob Proulx wrote: > Steve Litt wrote: > > Thierry de Coulon wrote: > > > I would not call a 256 BG SSd "small" - the biggest I own is 60GB, > > > and all the system runs on it (on a laptop). > > > > You're not going to save much money going below 256GB. I think

Re: UEFI

2014-07-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Steve Litt wrote: > Thierry de Coulon wrote: > > I would not call a 256 BG SSd "small" - the biggest I own is 60GB, > > and all the system runs on it (on a laptop). > > You're not going to save much money going below 256GB. I think below > 128GB, the law of diminishing returns makes it useless to g

Re: UEFI

2014-07-10 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:35:37 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: Slitt is right, all non-pro IT prices have a curve like that: / / / / / so you have to see where the knee of this curve is and buy just in it.

Re: UEFI

2014-07-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:29:51 +0200 Thierry de Coulon wrote: > On Thursday 10 July 2014 00.44:20 Steve Litt wrote: > > > And, for eighty bucks more you can get a small (256GB) SSD mounted > > as /, put nothing on it but /usr and /opt and possibly /boot > > I would not call a 256 BG SSd "small" -

Re: UEFI

2014-07-10 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Slavko wrote: > Dňa Thu, 10 Jul 2014 01:49:12 +0800 Bret Busby > napísal: >> On 09/07/2014, B wrote: >> >>> BTW, sorry to hijack a bit this thread, but what could >>> be the advantages to use UEFI (I just have Debian o

Re: UEFI

2014-07-10 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Thursday 10 July 2014 00.44:20 Steve Litt wrote: > And, for eighty bucks more you can get a small (256GB) SSD mounted > as /, put nothing on it but /usr and /opt and possibly /boot I would not call a 256 BG SSd "small" - the biggest I own is 60GB, and all the system runs on it (on a laptop).

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 22:13:21 +0200 Thierry de Coulon wrote: > So this for me sums up the question: if your computer is to run linux > only (as was the OP's), there is no reason to use UEFI/GPT but for > the need for partitions over 2 TB. And, for eighty bucks more you can get

Why UEFI?: Was UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Steve Litt
> > BTW, sorry to hijack a bit this thread, but what could > be the advantages to use UEFI (I just have Debian on my > laptop and disabled it from ancient posts I read). I can answer that. If you don't want to pay insane System76 prices, you buy a commodity laptop for $4

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Joe
On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:49:51 +0200 Thierry de Coulon wrote: > On Wednesday 09 July 2014 15.53:22 B wrote: > > > BTW, sorry to hijack a bit this thread, but what could > > be the advantages to use UEFI (I just have Debian on my > > laptop and disabled it f

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Wednesday 09 July 2014 19.49:12 Bret Busby wrote: > It is my understanding (and, once again, I am no expert), that two > distinct advantages of a UEFI/GPT system ofer what it replaced, are > that no differentiation exists, between primary and other partitions, > and, a UEFI/GPT

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 20:32:43 +0200 Hans wrote: > So you cannot change BIOS and disable UEFI? Or is it protected by > password? No no, what I said is (from (very) old posts) I choosed to stay in regular BIOS mode; and as my systems have no special needs, the laptop will stay in this mode

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday, July 09, 2014 02:08:41 PM Slavko wrote: > Ahoj, > > Dňa Thu, 10 Jul 2014 01:49:12 +0800 Bret Busby > > napísal: > > On 09/07/2014, B wrote: > > > BTW, sorry to hijack a bit this thread, but what could > > > be the advantages to use UEFI

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2014, 20:23:48 schrieb B: > On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 17:04:48 +0200 > > Hans wrote: > > Just disable UEFI, then install debian as needed. Debian is > > Too late! > > Regular BIOS will do. This laptop is for work only, so I only > have a swap,

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 17:04:48 +0200 Hans wrote: > Just disable UEFI, then install debian as needed. Debian is Too late! Regular BIOS will do. This laptop is for work only, so I only have a swap, a main system and an SOS sytem. -- "I'd love to go out with you, but I'm attend

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 01:49:12 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > It is my understanding (and, once again, I am an expert), that two I see that, thanks for the details! ;) -- Witch! Witch! They'll burn ya! -- Hag, "Tomorrow is Yesterday", stardate unknown signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Thu, 10 Jul 2014 01:49:12 +0800 Bret Busby napísal: > On 09/07/2014, B wrote: > > > BTW, sorry to hijack a bit this thread, but what could > > be the advantages to use UEFI (I just have Debian on my > > laptop and disabled it from ancient posts I

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 09/07/2014, B wrote: > > BTW, sorry to hijack a bit this thread, but what could > be the advantages to use UEFI (I just have Debian on my > laptop and disabled it from ancient posts I read). > Hello. It is my understanding (and, once again, I am no expert), th

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Bzzzz
t; need it). I don't really know about Win8 - that I don't have or > use. I use Linux only (@home) since 1999 :) > My undestanding is that *pre-installed* Windows 8 require > UEFI & secure boot. But I once downloaded a test version of Win 8 > Enterprise (free from M$) and

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 16:55:37 +0200 Alex JOST wrote: > It's easier to install and manage multiple Operating Systems > because you don't have to mess around with Grub. ? I'm under sid, grub detects any installed os automatically. -- Life is the urge to ecstasy. signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2014, 14:56:55 schrieb Curt: > On 2014-07-09, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > >> I bought a new laptop and the debian does not install on it because the > >> uefi. Does anyone here known how to install the Debian using a UEFI > >> instalation like Ubu

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Alex JOST
Am 09.07.2014 15:53, schrieb B: BTW, sorry to hijack a bit this thread, but what could be the advantages to use UEFI (I just have Debian on my laptop and disabled it from ancient posts I read). It's easier to install and manage multiple Operating Systems because you don't ha

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Wednesday 09 July 2014 15.53:22 B wrote: > BTW, sorry to hijack a bit this thread, but what could > be the advantages to use UEFI (I just have Debian on my > laptop and disabled it from ancient posts I read). AFAIK it could be usefull for *very* big disks (but I can't see

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-09, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: >> >> I bought a new laptop and the debian does not install on it because the >> uefi. Does anyone here known how to install the Debian using a UEFI >> instalation like Ubuntu does? > > You have to enable (U)EFI on your co

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 16:26:16 +0300 Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > You have to enable (U)EFI on your computer and Debian 7.x/8 should > install just fine. Yup, the 7.5 (amd64) netinstall has the EFI partition. BTW, sorry to hijack a bit this thread, but what could be the advantages to use U

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
benedi...@gmail.com wrote: > >I bought a new laptop and the debian does not install on it because the >uefi. Does anyone here known how to install the Debian using a UEFI >instalation like Ubuntu does? Current stable (7.5, aka Wheezy) and testing (Jessie) versions of Debian should

Re: UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 07/09/2014 03:12 PM, Benedito Junior wrote: > Hello, > > I bought a new laptop and the debian does not install on it because the > uefi. Does anyone here known how to install the Debian using a UEFI > instalation like Ubuntu does? You have to enable (U)EFI on your computer a

UEFI

2014-07-09 Thread Benedito Junior
Hello, I bought a new laptop and the debian does not install on it because the uefi. Does anyone here known how to install the Debian using a UEFI instalation like Ubuntu does?

Jessie installer hangs on UEFI hardware when creating EFI-fat16 partition

2014-06-17 Thread Peter Jones
When installing Jessie on UEFI hardware, the installer hangs when it attempts to create the EFI-fat16 partition. I can still get a shell on another virtual console. After about 2 minutes syslog show a MCE hardware error. Using the Wheezy installer to create the partition works, and running the

Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
Corey, If you don't like to use unetbootin, you could try one of the following: 1. pendrivelinux (url: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/) 2. rufus (url: http://rufus.akeo.ie/) Both are free and open-source and they don't need to be installed on Windows. Which version of Windows are you using? and i

Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:50:57PM -0700, Corey Blair wrote: > >So I can just do a file copy in Windows of the .iso to the thumb >drive?  Not actually extracting the iso image?  I will try that later >tonite, but also seems odd to me that it would work.  No, copying the file directly from Windows

Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Corey Blair
; Corey Blair ; debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, 23 April 2014, 12:07 Subject: Re: UEFI install On 23.04.2014 14:57, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: >> - Original Message - >> From: Steve McIntyre >> Sent: 04/23/14 10:25 PM >> To: Corey Blair >

Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Jeremy T. Bouse
On 23.04.2014 14:57, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: - Original Message - From: Steve McIntyre Sent: 04/23/14 10:25 PM To: Corey Blair Subject: Re: UEFI install Gah, yet another person using unetbootin. It's responsible for a lot of problem reports we're seeing these days. It

Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
> - Original Message - > From: Steve McIntyre > Sent: 04/23/14 10:25 PM > To: Corey Blair > Subject: Re: UEFI install > Gah, yet another person using unetbootin. It's responsible for a lot of > problem reports we're seeing these days. It's totally unn

Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
> - Original Message - > From: Corey Blair > Sent: 04/23/14 10:11 PM > To: Steve McIntyre > Subject: Re: UEFI install > > I downloaded debian-7.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso and then used unetbootin to make a > bootable USB flash drive from it. I changed UEFI boot to legac

Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Corey Blair
I downloaded debian-7.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso and then used unetbootin to make a bootable USB flash drive from it. I changed UEFI boot to legacy mode and booted off the UEFI USB. The installer runs fine, but I have trouble loading the components from "cd-rom", so I execute a shell and

Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hi Corey, On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 07:11:45AM -0700, Corey Blair wrote: >I downloaded debian-7.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso and then used unetbootin to >make a bootable USB flash drive from it. I changed UEFI boot to >legacy mode and booted off the UEFI USB. The installer runs fine, >but I

Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
wiping your hard disk drive, did you save a copy of the boot installation software provided by your laptop vendor/manufacturer? May I ask why you prefer to do a UEFI install versus a normal install (with regards to Windows 8.1 and Debian Wheezy)? I confirm that the latest release of Debian W

Re: UEFI install

2014-04-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hi, Which version of Debian did you try to install? What eactly happened when grub installation failed? Debian Wheezy (7.x) and onwards for amd64 should install via UEFI and co-exist happily with Windows 8 on a GPT system, but there may be bugs of course. If you can give us some more information

Re: UEFI install

2014-04-19 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
et a dual > > > boot Windows 8.1 and Debian Wheezy install? Or at the least have > > > Debian successfully installed (although I'm afraid of wiping the HDD > > > and losing the ability to revert back to Windows) > > > > > > > > You may not be a

Re: UEFI install

2014-04-18 Thread André Nunes Batista
cessfully installed (although I'm afraid of wiping the HDD > > and losing the ability to revert back to Windows) > > > > > You may not be able to. The problem may be that Wheezy is too old. > Coexistence with UEFI is still developing. > > However, Wheezy ca

Re: UEFI install

2014-04-18 Thread Gary Dale
may not be able to. The problem may be that Wheezy is too old. Coexistence with UEFI is still developing. However, Wheezy can handle GPT disks just fine. To test this, turn of UEFI in the BIOS and try the install again. To make things easier, first use Windows disk manager to shrink the Windows

UEFI install

2014-04-17 Thread Corey Blair
I got a new laptop without a CD/DVD drive and am trying to install off a USB image and either dual boot my pre-installed windows 8.1 or just wipe and use strictly Debian. I get all the way to the point of installing GRUB and it fails. I've read that this may have something to do with the disk

Re: How to install wheezy uefi + gpt (was: Install debian on EFI hw)

2014-03-24 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
; problems. > > > > YOu may, however need to do an expert install rather than an automated > > install, > > which I'd recommend anyway since it means that you have greater control > > over how > > the install proceeds. > > > > Hope this helps, &

Re: How to install wheezy uefi + gpt (was: Install debian on EFI hw)

2014-03-24 Thread André Nunes Batista
sks but it certainly worked when I tried it a while ago with no > problems. > > YOu may, however need to do an expert install rather than an automated > install, > which I'd recommend anyway since it means that you have greater control over > how > the install proce

Re: I can not install Debian because UEFI 32-bit

2014-02-07 Thread Robin
On 7 February 2014 02:23, Renaud15000 . wrote: > Hello, I am contacting you because I am confronted with the impossibility to > install Linux on my computer because it has a 32-bit UEFI (without Legacy > BIOS mode, although the processor is an x64) and all distributions Linux > compa

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