On Sat 10 Nov 2012 at 10:27:48 +0530, L V Gandhi wrote:
I downloaded wheezy weeky build kde iso dt 5th Nov
It booted in uefi mode. But during installation, it dais there is no
kernel in the disk and further it could not recognise both ethernet and
wireless which are
Qualcomm atheros
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
On Sat 10 Nov 2012 at 10:27:48 +0530, L V Gandhi wrote:
I downloaded wheezy weeky build kde iso dt 5th Nov
It booted in uefi mode. But during installation, it dais there is no
kernel in the disk and further it could
On Sat 10 Nov 2012 at 22:22:16 +0530, L V Gandhi wrote:
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
I for one doubt the message you saw said there was no kernel in the
disk. If you posted exactly what you saw we could dispel that doubt.
Exact message as below
No
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
On Sat 10 Nov 2012 at 22:22:16 +0530, L V Gandhi wrote:
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
I for one doubt the message you saw said there was no kernel in the
disk. If you posted
I downloaded wheezy weeky build kde iso dt 5th Nov
It booted in uefi mode. But during installation, it dais there is no
kernel in the disk and further it could not recognise both ethernet and
wireless which are
Qualcomm atheros ar5bwb222
Realtek ethernet
It could not detect both of them.
Any idea
), without drowning it in errors.
I think some pathways in the motherboard is broken, so I want to
replace it. BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't
have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question
is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI
of the motherboards on the market doesn't
have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question
is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI-thing
and get a Debian install to work on it ?
Hi Tom,
I know we're a few weeks on from when you asked, but...
As of today, we now
in the motherboard is broken, so I want to
replace it. BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't
have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question
is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI-thing
and get a Debian install to work on it ?
Hi Tom,
I know
it in errors.
I think some pathways in the motherboard is broken, so I want to
replace it. BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't
have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question
is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI-thing
and get
pathways in the motherboard is broken, so I want to
replace it. BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't
have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question
is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI-thing
and get a Debian install to work on it ?
Hi
(say the harddisk)
to another (say a CDROM), without drowning it in errors.
I think some pathways in the motherboard is broken, so I want to
replace it. BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't
have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question
is; can I replace
Tom Rausner t...@rausner.dk writes:
Hi.
ons, 12 09 2012 kl. 03:01 +0200, skrev lee:
Get an MSI board if you can. Asus sucks and Gigabyte is the worst crap
you can get. I don't have any experience with Asrock, though.
Well, it ended up with an ASRock.
Let us know how it turns out in about
Tony van der Hoff t...@vanderhoff.org writes:
On 12/09/12 02:01, lee wrote:
Tom Rausner t...@rausner.dk writes:
Generally I would agree and I was looking at MSI and ASUS to start with.
I just happened to clap my eyes on this one by accident -and liked it.
Get an MSI board if you can.
tor, 13 09 2012 kl. 05:02 +0200, skrev lee:
Let us know how it turns out in about three years from now :)
I wouldn't be suprised if I stil was happily using the ASRock...
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:13:55 +0200, Tom Rausner wrote:
tir, 11 09 2012 kl. 17:52 +, skrev Camaleón:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:51:22 +0200, Tom Rausner wrote:
A bad copy does not have to mean a hardware problem. Maybe using a
different software to do the copy process could have helped to
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:05:41 -0400, Doug wrote:
On 09/11/2012 11:16 AM, Tom Rausner wrote:
Hi.
tir, 11 09 2012 kl. 16:40 +0200, skrev maderios:
Hi
I bought uefi motherboard 1 year ago. It works well with squeeze weezy
and sid. UEFI changes nothing.
Thanks for the help. I'm buying an UEFI
Hi.
tir, 11 09 2012 kl. 20:05 -0400, skrev Doug:
Why not report back after you have installed an OS on it.
Yeah, why not. The board comes in a pile of stuff I've orderet. It
should be here monday so I should get it done some time next week.
Tom Rausner
Tom Rausner t...@rausner.dk writes:
Generally I would agree and I was looking at MSI and ASUS to start with.
I just happened to clap my eyes on this one by accident -and liked it.
Get an MSI board if you can. Asus sucks and Gigabyte is the worst crap
you can get. I don't have any experience
On 12/09/12 02:01, lee wrote:
Tom Rausner t...@rausner.dk writes:
Generally I would agree and I was looking at MSI and ASUS to start with.
I just happened to clap my eyes on this one by accident -and liked it.
Get an MSI board if you can. Asus sucks and Gigabyte is the worst crap
you can
Hi.
ons, 12 09 2012 kl. 03:01 +0200, skrev lee:
Get an MSI board if you can. Asus sucks and Gigabyte is the worst crap
you can get. I don't have any experience with Asrock, though.
Well, it ended up with an ASRock.
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Hey Tony...
ons, 12 09 2012 kl. 18:18 +0100, skrev Tony van der Hoff:
Get an MSI board if you can. Asus sucks and Gigabyte is the worst crap
you can get. I don't have any experience with Asrock, though.
I didn't write this (just for your information)
I read your 'installation' post, and
On 12/09/12 18:34, Tom Rausner wrote:
Hey Tony...
ons, 12 09 2012 kl. 18:18 +0100, skrev Tony van der Hoff:
Get an MSI board if you can. Asus sucks and Gigabyte is the worst crap
you can get. I don't have any experience with Asrock, though.
I didn't write this (just for your
Hi.
ons, 12 09 2012 kl. 18:40 +0100, skrev Tony van der Hoff:
No, you didn't; neither did I, it was Lee.
But you have just snipped all the attributions...
Well.. sorry.
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Subject: Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Wednesday, September 12, 2012, 12:18 PM
I've never had a problem with ASUS boards. YMMV
On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 19:21 +0200, Tom Rausner wrote:
Well, it ended up with an ASRock.
And I switched from ASRock to ASUS ;). It's fortuitousness, we can have
bad or good luck.
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I had issues with an ASUS board when it was new. Now it's old, several
BIOS updates later, it's the perfect Linux machine. I only struggle with
an IRQ issue for a new audio card, something that can happen with every
mobo. Btw. today I don't care anymore, if there should be new BIOS
updates. I
man, 10 09 2012 kl. 21:02 +0200, skrev tv.deb...@googlemail.com:
Hi, UEFI isn't (normally) a problem, it's the hype around the secure
boot feature that gives free operating systems users the chills.
I know, but I'm not quite sure exactly what kind of problems I might run
into using an UEFI
is broken, so I want to
replace it.
How did you reach to that conclusion? Maybe is simply a bad cabling or
almost-death port :-?
BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't have an old-style
BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question is; can I replace my
motherboard with one
it. BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't
have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question
is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI-thing
and get a Debian install to work on it ?
Hi
I bought uefi motherboard 1 year ago. It works well
Hi.
tir, 11 09 2012 kl. 16:40 +0200, skrev maderios:
Hi
I bought uefi motherboard 1 year ago. It works well with squeeze weezy
and sid. UEFI changes nothing.
Thanks for the help. I'm buying an UEFI-board. Just wanted to be sure
I wouldn't get any bad surprises.
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be something I haven't
cheked ;-)
Do you have in mind a specific motherboard model?
Probably ASRock Z77 Extreme4
I don't think UEFI is now the only option available, most of the
motherboard manufacturers (MSI, Gigabyte, Asus...) provide a dual boot
manager (BIOS/UEFI) for compatibility issues
: it was not the disk but the
internal ide port.
Do you have in mind a specific motherboard model?
Probably ASRock Z77 Extreme4
Asrock? Are you sure? O:-)
I don't think UEFI is now the only option available, most of the
motherboard manufacturers (MSI, Gigabyte, Asus...) provide a dual boot
tir, 11 09 2012 kl. 16:26 +, skrev Camaleón:
The logs or messages just said corrupt data? :-?
Have you considered the optical media could be broken? I say this because
the symptoms for a faulty motherboard are usually rather different.
I just discovered the data to be corrupted. And I
to
replace it. BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't
have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question
is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI-thing
and get a Debian install to work on it ?
No problem at all. I can recommend Asus P8H67-V
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:51:22 +0200, Tom Rausner wrote:
tir, 11 09 2012 kl. 16:26 +, skrev Camaleón:
The logs or messages just said corrupt data? :-? Have you considered
the optical media could be broken? I say this because the symptoms for
a faulty motherboard are usually rather
tir, 11 09 2012 kl. 17:52 +, skrev Camaleón:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:51:22 +0200, Tom Rausner wrote:
A bad copy does not have to mean a hardware problem. Maybe using a
different software to do the copy process could have helped to diagnose
the problem.
I did try different software
On 11/09/2012 21:13, Tom Rausner wrote:
tir, 11 09 2012 kl. 17:52 +, skrev Camaleón:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:51:22 +0200, Tom Rausner wrote:
[...]
I have it in my list of low-end (cheap) manufacturers, along with Biostar
and DFI. I prefer MSI, Gigabyte or even Asus. Buy hey, there can be
On 09/11/2012 11:16 AM, Tom Rausner wrote:
Hi.
tir, 11 09 2012 kl. 16:40 +0200, skrev maderios:
Hi
I bought uefi motherboard 1 year ago. It works well with squeeze weezy
and sid. UEFI changes nothing.
Thanks for the help. I'm buying an UEFI-board. Just wanted to be sure
I wouldn't get any
on the market doesn't
have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question
is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI-thing
and get a Debian install to work on it ?
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t
it. BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't
have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question
is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI-thing
and get a Debian install to work on it ?
Hi, UEFI isn't (normally) a problem, it's the hype around
Am Samstag, 11. August 2012 schrieb Greg Madden:
Not sure about all the:
- GPT + UEFI
- MBR + UEFI
- GPT + BIOS
I just installed Wheezy and it seemed to install just like any other
install I have done.
Ah, so you are not sure its using UEFI at all?
Do you have grub-pc or grub-efi
...@rogers.com
wrote:
On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote:
[…]
I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc
making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence
my post.
I think the issues you read about are for Windows 8 and the 'secure
boot' feature
that dual booting
is a common requirement so they usually handle it pretty well.
I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc
making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence my
post.
I think the issues you read about are for Windows 8
partition the disks the
way you like. Linux installers normally expect that dual booting
is a common requirement so they usually handle it pretty well.
I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc
making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence my
well.
I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc
making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence my
post.
I think the issues you read about are for Windows 8 and the 'secure
boot' feature of the UEFI bios?
I have not tried Squeeze, Wheezy
is a common requirement so they usually handle it pretty well.
I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc
making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence my
post.
I think the issues you read about are for Windows 8 and the 'secure
boot' feature of the UEFI
On Mi, 11 iul 12, 06:08:15, Darren Baginski wrote:
I found those steps not so easy to perform for many users and bielive such functionality should be intergrated
in to the Debian installer.
My question is there a work in progress on that? If so, how can I help ?
debian-boot is the mailing
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Jerome BENOIT g62993...@rezozer.net wrote:
On 11/07/12 04:08, Darren Baginski wrote:
Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more
particular.
While installing I faced some issues.
Looks like installer can't recognize and do not ask
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Darren Baginski kick...@yandex.com wrote:
Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more
particular.
While installing I faced some issues.
Looks like installer can't recognize and do not ask whenever system is BIOS
or UEFI and installs
On 11/07/12 09:19, Tom H wrote:
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Jerome BENOITg62993...@rezozer.net wrote:
On 11/07/12 04:08, Darren Baginski wrote:
Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more
particular.
While installing I faced some issues.
Looks like installer
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:49 AM, Jerome BENOIT g62993...@rezozer.net wrote:
On 11/07/12 09:19, Tom H wrote:
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Jerome BENOITg62993...@rezozer.net
wrote:
On 11/07/12 04:08, Darren Baginski wrote:
Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Darren Baginski:
Hi list!
Hi Darren,
Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more par
ticular. While installing I faced some issues.
Looks like installer can't recognize and do not ask whenever system is
BIOS or UEFI and installs
by remove/edit boot entries with
`efibootmgr -B -b N`?
`efibootmgr -B -b N `
is used to delete boot entries at the uefi boot list, something like it was
boot from c: or boot from d:
For some reason managing non-windows boot entries is not possible/limited from
the UEFI BIOS itself.
Therefore
Hi list!
Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more particular.
While installing I faced some issues.
Looks like installer can't recognize and do not ask whenever system is BIOS or UEFI and installs grub-pc,
while grub-uefi required in such case. Thus making system
Hello:
There is actually a discussion about it on the debian-devel list.
Jerome
On 11/07/12 04:08, Darren Baginski wrote:
Hi list!
Today I have installed Wheezy on UEFI system, Asus UX31A to be more particular.
While installing I faced some issues.
Looks like installer can't recognize and do
be the user, herself, of course!)
(...)
An UEFI capable motherboard does not mean it has also the secure boot
feature enabled, I think this is s different problematic :-)
Greetings,
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of the key is, of course, freely available and should be cached in
some kind of write-once/read-many memory if such is available (You can
buy USB keys with a physical write-enable switch. Would something
like that be good for this application? Does the UEFI API have a way
of stashing
. This whole UEFI
thing hasn't landed in Debian land yet AFAICS.
Besides the all new and shiny thing about UEFI, booting with grub-pc
works pretty ok for me at the moment.
Thanks to all who replied.
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Hi
Does any of you have some knowledge on how to install Debian testing
with UEFI?
I looked via search function of the web sites in
- debian.org
- wiki.debian.org
with 0 hits. I found some links that described the howto, but they seem
outdated:
- install via MBR and grub-pc (works)
- install
On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 13:26:37 +0200, Andreas Weber wrote:
Does any of you have some knowledge on how to install Debian testing
with UEFI?
I looked via search function of the web sites in
- debian.org
- wiki.debian.org
with 0 hits.
There was a discussion at the devel mailing list
On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 17:23 +, Camaleón wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 13:26:37 +0200, Andreas Weber wrote:
Well knowing that this could start a flame which I don't intend to
do
Pff, a flame war about what ;)?
I'm afraid I'm still stuck with the old BIOS in all of my systems and
haven't
On Tuesday, July 03, 2012 09:26:37 PM Andreas Weber wrote:
Hi
Does any of you have some knowledge on how to install Debian testing
with UEFI?
I looked via search function of the web sites in
- debian.org
- wiki.debian.org
with 0 hits. I found some links that described the howto
On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 01:26:37PM +0200, Andreas Weber wrote:
Hi
Does any of you have some knowledge on how to install Debian testing
with UEFI?
I looked via search function of the web sites in
- debian.org
- wiki.debian.org
Mmmm, uefi site:lists.debian.org brings up some hits
On Monday 25 June 2012 16:13:54 Jochen Spieker wrote:
And, BTW, Desktop LTS support lasts only for 3 years, not 5.
I recently read that it was changing to five for the desktop, as well as the
server edition. If you say that this is an urban myth, I am happy to believe
you.
Lisi
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Lisi:
On Monday 25 June 2012 16:13:54 Jochen Spieker wrote:
And, BTW, Desktop LTS support lasts only for 3 years, not 5.
I recently read that it was changing to five for the desktop, as well as the
server edition. If you say that this is an urban myth, I am happy to believe
you.
No, I
On Tuesday 05 June 2012 18:55:59 Nuno Magalhães wrote:
That's awkward, i was under the impression there was a change some
years back so that the stable branch would change to a 6 months
release schedule. Did that never go through or was it only temporary?
It was cancelled, though they seem to
On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 15:29 +0100, Lisi wrote:
On Tuesday 05 June 2012 18:55:59 Nuno Magalhães wrote:
That's awkward, i was under the impression there was a change some
years back so that the stable branch would change to a 6 months
release schedule. Did that never go through or was it only
Lisi writes:
I am just sorry that they have changed it at all. Ubuntu now has 5
year support for its long term supported version. Such a pity that
Debian is going the other way.
Support beyond Stable is on a best effort basis. If enough people
were willing to actually work on it I'm sure a
On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 09:49 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
Lisi writes:
I am just sorry that they have changed it at all. Ubuntu now has 5
year support for its long term supported version. Such a pity that
Debian is going the other way.
Support beyond Stable is on a best effort basis. If
Lisi:
I am just sorry that they have changed it at all. Ubuntu now has 5 year
support for its long term supported version. Such a pity that Debian is
going the other way. :-(
This comparison is a bit unfair since Ubuntu officially only supports
its main repository which is, as far as I
On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 17:02 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 09:49 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
Lisi writes:
I am just sorry that they have changed it at all. Ubuntu now has 5
year support for its long term supported version. Such a pity that
Debian is going the other
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Jochen Spieker m...@well-adjusted.de wrote:
And, BTW, Desktop LTS support lasts only for 3 years, not 5.
It's been pushed up to 5 years with 12.04.
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feelings but won't
repeat because I alredy commented on this thread what are my thoughts on
this.
FWIW sometime ago I posted the links to the archive at LAU, the OP of
the UEFI thread might take a look there:
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From: Ralf Mardorf
To: linux
For some reasons i am not able to get debian members response in my mailbox
to my query posted on mailing list.
So i have written a brief post about UEFI, Canonical and Microsoft over
here -
http://harshad.wordpress.com/2012/06/22/the-ghost-of-uefi-and-micr00ft/
Canonical too has some plans
Harshad Joshi writes:
Lot of PC/laptop/tablets in 2012 and beyond will have UEFI instead of
good old bios.
Bad old bios. Very bad. It was designed for 8080s and floppy disks.
It was excellent for that environment but it has been obsolete for
decades.
Will Debian community fight against
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 18:26:17 +0530, Harshad Joshi wrote:
For some reasons i am not able to get debian members response in my
mailbox to my query posted on mailing list.
(...)
Most of the Debian mailing lists are open, meaning there's no need for
users who want to post to be subscribed.
To
Good time of the day, Camaleón.
Thank You for Your support and assistance for Deb. users!
You worte:
We don't have to hold for those horrible things anymore. We need to
develop our own way. If we remain at the commands of MS we will be
doing it wrong.
I agree w/ You. Debian is outstanding
based board) without UEFI that can be disabled - but I support
devices that can be made to *only* run signed code *provided* MS is
*not* the certificate agency.
Would that mean anybody who wants to build their own kernel would need
to buy a signing key?
-miles
For a UEFI that conforms
Correction
On 11/06/12 12:36, Scott Ferguson wrote:
snipped
add your own key to the UEFI... apparently that would *require you
typing it in* (256 characters).
I can't confirm that as I had first hand access to the W8 pad, could be
a bum steer. :-(
Nothing in the published specs to show
On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 06:20:12PM -0700, Weaver wrote:
After all this time, he still doesn't understand that the free/open source
software movement works for itself.
He has a bit of an axe to grind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Letter_to_Hobbyists
On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 06:20:12PM -0700, Weaver wrote:
After all this time, he still doesn't understand that the free/open
source
software movement works for itself.
He has a bit of an axe to grind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Letter_to_Hobbyists
* On 2012 09 Jun 01:15 -0500, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 06:20:12PM -0700, Weaver wrote:
After all this time, he still doesn't understand that the free/open source
software movement works for itself.
He has a bit of an axe to grind.
A can be only be signed by one entity (1) and
driver B can only be signed by 2, but if you have both the public
keys of 1 and 2 in your UEFI keystore, you can load driver A and
driver B. Of course, it is also possible to distribute variants A'
and A'' signed by 2 and 3.
Best regards,
Claudius
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On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 05:26:30AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
The handling for the end user is optimized to fit to the needs of
Windows end users. Slavko already has written that Windows end users
don't compile Windows kernels, but Linux end users do.
No we don't. That hasn't been generally
On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 06:21:46AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 05:26:30AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
The handling for the end user is optimized to fit to the needs of
Windows end users. Slavko already has written that Windows end users
don't compile Windows kernels,
.
Yes. And no.
I'd hate to see a situation where it was impossible to buy an ARM (or
other CPU based board) without UEFI that can be disabled - but I support
devices that can be made to *only* run signed code *provided* MS is
*not* the certificate agency.
Would that mean anybody who
Hi,
Dňa Fri, 8 Jun 2012 06:21:46 -0400 Carl Fink c...@finknetwork.com
napísal:
On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 05:26:30AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
The handling for the end user is optimized to fit to the needs of
Windows end users. Slavko already has written that Windows end users
don't
On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 09:36:32PM -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote:
Let's be clear what this is. I have to get *permission* from someone
else, to run a program on my own computer. To actually use my
computer to do
?
No? Looks like I lost the freedom to have any semblance of control
over my own hardware.
You have the freedom to either:
a.) Disable Secure Boot and run your own kernel
or
b.) Generate your own signing key, sign your own kernel, and load your
own key into your system's UEFI.
You have
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 23:34 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
Let's be clear what this is. I have to get *permission* from someone
else, to run a program on my own computer. To actually use my
computer to do my stuff, I
of US
laws, such as the prohibition to share hardware and software with some
countries the US government doesn't like.
They're not Linux keys sold by Microsoft they're UEFI secure boot
signing keys sold by Microsoft and one Linux distributor has
purchased one to use. Fedora also has the option
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org wrote:
Christofer C. Bell christofer.c.b...@gmail.com writes:
Would that mean anybody who wants to build their own kernel would need
to buy a signing key?
Not at all. You can generate your own key and load it into your UEFI.
It's
On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 06:21 -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 05:26:30AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
The handling for the end user is optimized to fit to the needs of
Windows end users. Slavko already has written that Windows end users
don't compile Windows kernels, but Linux
Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com writes:
You can't disable the code signing requirement on ARM.
... which is a great deal more worrying.
Yes. And no.
I'd hate to see a situation where it was impossible to buy an ARM (or
other CPU based board) without UEFI that can
On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 05:21 -0400, Tom H wrote:
Consider banking.
Online-banking already is impossible for me, regarding to a technology
the German Postbank is using. I once enabled it, then disabled it and
now me and even the Postbank admins are unable to enable online-banking
again.
They
On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 19:04 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 06/06/12 18:44, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Ma, 05 iun 12, 20:26:03, Slavko wrote:
in our country is more and more difficult to buy computer (specially
notebook) without Windows included. In one shop they are telling me, that
it
. there will be something similar to a jailbreak for Apple, that
enables to disable UEFI, even if it can't be disabled by a BIOS option
for Intel, ASUS and other boards. At least hardware alterations will be
available, comparable to Mac clones.
There always will be a way to get Linux running on a PC
On Mi, 06 iun 12, 13:04:50, Kelly Clowers wrote:
I sincerely doubt it. Although I guess it depends on what you mean by
via the network. Worms that infect like SQL Slammer are relatively
rare, AFAIK most malware get in via drive-by downloads, or intentional
installation of programs that are
OT:
On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 14:41 +, Camaleón wrote:
Windows users with secure boot enabled who want to boot a different OS
should ask MS how to do it, don't you think? They have paid for what
they have installed.
IIRC it's not allowed to run a Linux on the same machine, beside a
Windows,
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mi, 06 iun 12, 13:04:50, Kelly Clowers wrote:
I sincerely doubt it. Although I guess it depends on what you mean by
via the network. Worms that infect like SQL Slammer are relatively
rare, AFAIK most malware get
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