On Monday, June 18, 2018 08:44:20 AM Michael Stone wrote:
> He really doesn't want a sensible solution, just let it go.
+1
On 06/18/2018 07:17 AM, David wrote:
On 1 June 2018 at 00:21, Richard Owlett wrote:
I have two computers with USB ports.
I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers did.
What is the make and model number of each computer?
No longer a relevant question.
I have
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 10:17:21PM +1000, David wrote:
On 1 June 2018 at 00:21, Richard Owlett wrote:
I have two computers with USB ports.
I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers did.
What is the make and model number of each computer?
He really doesn't want a
On 1 June 2018 at 00:21, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> I have two computers with USB ports.
> I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers did.
What is the make and model number of each computer?
On Thu, Jun 07, 2018 at 08:07:15AM +0100, Tixy wrote:
On Wed, 2018-06-06 at 22:26 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Richard Owlett writes:
> I have two computers with USB ports.
> I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers
> did.
> Then we used RS232-C with a null modem &/or
On 2018-06-07, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>
> This depends on what you mean by "universal". It was intended to be a
> protocol for computers to use to communicate with peripherals;
> "universal" in this context was restricted to peripherals.
And to the planet earth rather than all the way to the
On Wed, 2018-06-06 at 22:26 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> Richard Owlett writes:
>
> > I have two computers with USB ports.
> > I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers
> > did.
> > Then we used RS232-C with a null modem &/or appropriate software
> > software at both
Richard Owlett writes:
> On 06/01/2018 08:21 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
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>> On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 08:23:42AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
The one choice you have is that one of both sides takes a step
back and plays "gadget"
Richard Owlett writes:
> I have two computers with USB ports.
> I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers did.
> Then we used RS232-C with a null modem &/or appropriate software
> software at both ends.
>
> The underlying problem is that both ends egotistically expect
On Fri 01 Jun 2018 at 09:08:53 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/01/2018 08:21 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 08:23:42AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >>>The one choice you have is that one of both sides takes a step
> >>>back and plays "gadget" [...]
> >
> >>The
On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 02:16:47PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
USB-Ethernet dongles would be a lot more useful in the long term
than USB-Serial dongles.
*WHO* said anything about a "USB-Serial dongle"?
I want a USB-USB object. Subtle, but important, distinction.
Well, you started out
Richard,
On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 02:16:47PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/01/2018 09:01 AM, Michael Stone wrote:
> >I can't think of any applications where that's going to be better
> >over a pair of USB-Serial dongles than a pair of USB-Ethernet
> >dongles.
>
> Please read my stated
On 06/01/2018 09:01 AM, Michael Stone wrote:
On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 04:56:32AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 05/31/2018 06:58 PM, David Wright wrote:
(thanks for your link) gives an idea of the price, and in this case I
can see some justification for it because they describe the
electronics
On Friday 01 June 2018 06:20:59 Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 05/31/2018 10:07 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> I have two computers with USB ports.
> >> I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers
> >> did.
> >
> > What kind of "communicate" do you need there?
>
> Essentially
On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 10:01:57 -0400
Michael Stone wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 04:56:32AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >On 05/31/2018 06:58 PM, David Wright wrote:
> >>(thanks for your link) gives an idea of the price, and in this case
> >>I can see some justification for it because they
On Fri 01 Jun 2018 at 05:26:01 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/01/2018 01:27 AM, deloptes wrote:
> >Richard Owlett wrote:
> >
> >>I have two computers with USB ports.
> >>I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers did.
> >>Then we used RS232-C with a null modem &/or
On 06/01/2018 08:21 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
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On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 08:23:42AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
The one choice you have is that one of both sides takes a step
back and plays "gadget" [...]
The gadget API is the programming API
On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 04:56:32AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 05/31/2018 06:58 PM, David Wright wrote:
(thanks for your link) gives an idea of the price, and in this case I
can see some justification for it because they describe the
electronics hidden inside the plugs (we hope).
But
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On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 08:23:42AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > The one choice you have is that one of both sides takes a step
> > back and plays "gadget" [...]
> The gadget API is the programming API offered by the kernel for the OTG
> ports: no
> The one choice you have is that one of both sides takes a step
> back and plays "gadget" (the jargon term, somewhat unfortunate
> as search engine fodder). There seems to be something out there
> for that, e.g. [2].
The gadget API is the programming API offered by the kernel for the OTG
ports:
>> In some cases one of the two computers's USB port is an "OTG" port,
>> meaning that it can act either as "master" or not, in which case you can
>> just use a regular USB cable (and usually you then configure the OTG
>> side to pretend it's a network card, so it ends up looking to the
>>
On 06/01/2018 01:27 AM, deloptes wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
I have two computers with USB ports.
I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers did.
Then we used RS232-C with a null modem &/or appropriate software
software at both ends.
J., why not take a crossover
On 05/31/2018 10:07 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
I have two computers with USB ports.
I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers did.
What kind of "communicate" do you need there?
Essentially any ;/
In fact one of the thought experiments I was pursuing was how to do file
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On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 08:27:13AM +0200, deloptes wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> > I have two computers with USB ports.
> > I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers did.
> > Then we used RS232-C with a null modem &/or
Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have two computers with USB ports.
> I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers did.
> Then we used RS232-C with a null modem &/or appropriate software
> software at both ends.
>
J., why not take a crossover cable - all pcs have now ethernet
> If none of that are options, you can resort to using an "ethernet
> dongle" on both sides and an ethernet cable between the two.
[ If one of the two computers has a free ethernet port, you can of
course also such a dongle on the other computer. ]
BTW, those ethernet dongles can be found
> I have two computers with USB ports.
> I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers did.
What kind of "communicate" do you need there?
The "way back machine" to simulate a "null modem" serial cable exists,
as you've seen, but it's rarely the best solution for nowadays's
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 09:21:27AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have two computers with USB ports.
> I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers did.
> Then we used RS232-C with a null modem &/or appropriate software software
> at both ends.
>
> The underlying problem
Hi.
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 09:21:27AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have two computers with USB ports.
> I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers did.
> Then we used RS232-C with a null modem &/or appropriate software software
> at both ends.
>
> The
I have two computers with USB ports.
I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers did.
Then we used RS232-C with a null modem &/or appropriate software
software at both ends.
The underlying problem is that both ends egotistically expect to be
*MASTER*.
The hardware
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