Claudio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I guess Redhat will have something like that too (besides the Redhat
> Network) since 'Mandrake update' is based on rpm's too.
Well, they could. But they probably won't, or they would have left
anonymous up2date on.
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> Onderwerp: Re: Upgrade advantag
"Keith G. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I would be really surprised if RedHat does all that.
If you use up2date, it will, but that's now a pay-only service.
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Darryl RXthering wrote:
>
> Can someone explain the advantage many see in Debian upgrades vrs. RedHat?
> To take a concrete example, lets say I planned to start upgrading my home
> throwaway box (where I put up slink a few years back).
>
For a concrete example, someone reported a bind security pr
Quoting CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> ladida... it has... dependencies... bugger. doesn't tell you which ones
> haven't been met though. time to slug it out and detect and get that
> sorted.
> (one bonus point to rpm here. at least it says the src rpm has
> dependencies.
> src 'deb's' (no such thing
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:22:14
Darryl Rvthering writes:
DR> Can someone explain the advantage many see in Debian upgrades vrs. RedHat?
DR> To take a concrete example, lets say I planned to start upgrading my home
DR> throwaway box (where I put up slink a few years back).
FYI, Vin
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:31:44AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Another deficiency is that it'd be nice if apt-get told you what dependencies
> >you needed with a source deb. This way you could have it get the other
> >sources upfront instead of spending time compi
CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Another deficiency is that it'd be nice if apt-get told you what dependencies
>you needed with a source deb. This way you could have it get the other
>sources upfront instead of spending time compiling and only finding out
>later that something you needed wasn't ther
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 11:17:15AM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote:
> CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Let me give you today's example:
>
> Nit: your example wasn't comparing apples and apples. You were
> running an up-to-date Debian system and an old RedHat system, which
I take it to be somethin
Alan Shutko wrote:
> would on a potato system.) If you'd been trying this with a slink or
> hamm system, would apt-get have been able to do anything?
It would probably be a 100 package upgrade, as the libc and other
libraries would have to be upgraded, but yes, I'd be suprised if it
failed to wor
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 01:46:25PM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote:
>
> > especcially since rpm has this nasty habit of telling you that it
> > needs a newer version of a library, but gives no indication as to
> > which package this library is in.
>
> Indeed. I'm not sure why this was thought to be a g
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) writes:
> Really? I upgraded RH 5.2 to 6.0 and didn't reboot for a month or two
> afterwards. That said, I did this by manually running rpm -Uvh on
> everything, which took me all night and was a pretty hideous job.
Right. You didn't do the upgrade the right way.
Juergen Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> ReNit: Your example assumes that the dependencies for openssh are
> unchanged.
In this case, they are. 8^) (In most cases, RH errata doesn't change
dependencies. It pisses people off too much... for example, the new
glibc-common package in the err
Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Having done the RHL4->5->6->6.9beta->7.0 upgrades, I'm comfortable in
>saying it can be done without much more pain than an rpm --rebuild on
>your home-built RPMs and a bit of attention in /etc to check what
>.rpm{save,new} popped up. (And a reboot, since yo
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On Tuesday 27 March 2001 11:17, Alan Shutko wrote:
> CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Let me give you today's example:
>
> Nit: your example wasn't comparing apples and apples. You were
> running an up-to-date Debian system and an old RedHat system
David Z. Maze wrote:
The one exception to this is the kernel; since it's reasonable to have
multiple kernel versions installed, each is in its own package. You
can manually install the most recent kernel package or not; things
should still work fine.
I just compiled 2.2.18 using make-kpkg
"David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And upgrading a Red Hat distribution, especially between major
> versions, is pretty much impossible; I've heard people have had very
> good results upgrading between versions of Debian.
I think that Debian people are just smarter at doing things the
Darryl Röthering writes:
> Am I missing something?
Yes. _everything_ is packaged, and apt handles all the dependencies.
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CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Let me give you today's example:
Nit: your example wasn't comparing apples and apples. You were
running an up-to-date Debian system and an old RedHat system, which
didn't ship ssh in the first place. With a current RH system, it
would have been something like
(Original reordered somewhat...)
Darryl RXthering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DR> I have only installed so far using dpackage.
DR>
DR> If I do apt-gets for a whole set of packages, I will get my add-ons
DR> upgraded to the latest and greatest (if I understand this
DR> correctly). But I still will
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 03:22:14PM +, Darryl Röthering wrote:
> Can someone explain the advantage many see in Debian upgrades vrs. RedHat?
Let me give you today's example:
upgrading ssh on debian:
apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
if that's not good enough put in a testing or unstable line
Can someone explain the advantage many see in Debian upgrades vrs. RedHat?
To take a concrete example, lets say I planned to start upgrading my home
throwaway box (where I put up slink a few years back).
I have only installed so far using dpackage.
If I do apt-gets for a whole set of packages,
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