Re: VM software for personal use?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Allums wrote: > On 4/26/2010 5:24 PM, Clive McBarton wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Mark Allums wrote: >>> Some people are scared of shared folders as possible attack vectors, >>> thus security risks. >> >> What e

Re: VM software for personal use?

On 4/26/2010 5:24 PM, Clive McBarton wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Allums wrote: Some people are scared of shared folders as possible attack vectors, thus security risks. What exactly are those risks? (For me, personally, it's theoretical, as I only am repeatin

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On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 07:34:49PM -0600, ghe was heard to say: > On 4/25/10 7:10 PM, Richard Lawrence wrote: > > >http://losak.sourceforge.net/ > > A Lisp OS!!??? > > Could be, I guess. I once worked at a place where they claimed to > have written an accounting package in BASIC. I think I'd s

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Allums wrote: > Some people are scared of shared folders as possible attack vectors, thus > security risks. What exactly are those risks? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://

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Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Except... what works very nice in VMware is the NAT and Host Only network setups: works out of the box. You share your home dir thru samba. On XP all I had to setup was a netuse * to mount a net fs. Do the others do it that easy? Yes [1]. VBox even has kernel additions

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ghe wrote: On 4/26/10 8:35 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Used LISP for years at IBM Research No, no, no. Lisp is a perfectly fine language. There are just others more suited for systems work. As someone else pointed out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_machine There have been more than on

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On 4/26/10 8:35 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Used LISP for years at IBM Research No, no, no. Lisp is a perfectly fine language. There are just others more suited for systems work. -- Glenn English g...@slsware.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subj

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B. Alexander wrote: Amen to that! IMHO, vmware merely pays lip service to Linux. 12 years ago, when we were using Linux on the job, we (and many, many others) were asking for a Linux client. We are now at VSphere 4, and still only windows clients. VMware server is even worse. It runs on Linux

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Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/25/2010 09:39 PM, John Hasler wrote: Glenn English writes: A Lisp OS!!??? Pikers. I once worked at a place where they claimed to have written an accounting package in BASIC. I used a commercial accounting package written

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On 4/25/2010 8:34 PM, ghe wrote: On 4/25/10 7:10 PM, Richard Lawrence wrote: http://losak.sourceforge.net/ A Lisp OS!!??? Could be, I guess. I once worked at a place where they claimed to have written an accounting package in BASIC. I think I'd stick with VirtualBox... Am I detecting sarc

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On 04/25/2010 09:39 PM, John Hasler wrote: Glenn English writes: A Lisp OS!!??? Pikers. I once worked at a place where they claimed to have written an accounting package in BASIC. I used a commercial accounting package written in BASIC. Worked fi

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Glenn English writes: > A Lisp OS!!??? Pikers. > I once worked at a place where they claimed to have written an > accounting package in BASIC. I used a commercial accounting package written in BASIC. Worked fine. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

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On 4/25/10 7:10 PM, Richard Lawrence wrote: http://losak.sourceforge.net/ A Lisp OS!!??? Could be, I guess. I once worked at a place where they claimed to have written an accounting package in BASIC. I think I'd stick with VirtualBox... -- Glenn English g...@slsware.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

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Thanks to all who have replied! Looks like VirtualBox OSE may be the way for me to go for now, though I may also try my hand at QEMU. I found another lisp-based OS I might want to play around with, and they have QEMU images ready to boot: http://losak.sourceforge.net/ Richard -- To UNSUBSC

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On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:44:21PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Fri,23.Apr.10, 09:31:45, Richard Lawrence wrote: > > > > I am looking to run some virtual machines for personal use: I'd like > ... > > I value: > > - free over non-free > > - ease of use and good documentation over performance

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On Sat,24.Apr.10, 23:27:03, Andreas Weber wrote: > > If USB is a must, stick the device in, mount it and open a shared folder > in Virtualbox OSE on the mount point for it. That easy. The only time I had to setup the non-OSE version was due to the iPhone not being properly supported on Linux :|

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Mark Allums wrote: > That works on disk-like devices, not so much on other things. Some > people are scared of shared folders as possible attack vectors, thus > security risks. This is absolutely correct, my answer was too shortsighted, sorry for that. I must confess that for the last 2 years I

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On 4/24/2010 4:56 PM, B. Alexander wrote: . Even with it's vboxheadless functionality, its [vbox is] still a bit too dodgy for a group of machines that need to stay up. I would have said that about Xen. (OP did say "personal use", so I assumed desktop.) MAA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

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On 4/24/2010 4:27 PM, Andreas Weber wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: Except for USB the package virtualbox-ose in Debian will meet all your requirements. (OSE stands for Open Source Edition) If USB is a must you can use the repos from Sun (the USB stuff is non-free). If USB is a must, stick the d

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Amen to that! IMHO, vmware merely pays lip service to Linux. 12 years ago, when we were using Linux on the job, we (and many, many others) were asking for a Linux client. We are now at VSphere 4, and still only windows clients. VMware server is even worse. It runs on Linux, and it worked okay, but

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Andrei Popescu wrote: > Except for USB the package virtualbox-ose in Debian will meet all your > requirements. (OSE stands for Open Source Edition) > > If USB is a must you can use the repos from Sun (the USB stuff is > non-free). If USB is a must, stick the device in, mount it and open a share

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Mark Allums wrote: On 4/23/2010 11:31 AM, Richard Lawrence wrote: Hi all, P.S. Apologies if this question seems too far off-topic for debian-user. If there's a better place to ask this question, I'd like to know that, too. Virtualbox meets more of your individual criteria than anything el

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I'll join the "Virtualbox is what you want/need" wagon.

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On Fri,23.Apr.10, 09:31:45, Richard Lawrence wrote: > > I am looking to run some virtual machines for personal use: I'd like ... > I value: > - free over non-free > - ease of use and good documentation over performance > - installation via apt and reasonable default configuration > - simple netwo

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On 4/23/2010 11:31 AM, Richard Lawrence wrote: Hi all, P.S. Apologies if this question seems too far off-topic for debian-user. If there's a better place to ask this question, I'd like to know that, too. Virtualbox meets more of your individual criteria than anything else I can think of,

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On 04/23/2010 06:31 PM, Richard Lawrence wrote: Hi all, I am looking to run some virtual machines for personal use: I'd like to (attempt to) try out some alternative OSes from within my Lenny host. My goals are to be able to get a taste of some more "exotic" systems (maybe: BSD, Plan 9, Open Ge

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> Richard Lawrence : > I don't really know how to assess whether > Xen, VirtualBox, QEMU, KVM, or something else would be the best > software for me to start learning. KVM. Ubuntu has good documentation about it. -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Administration System

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Hi, Richard, I am running Windows XP 32 bit, Windows XP Pro 64 bit, and, at the moment, Ubuntu 10.04 in Virtual Box. Every "just works", including the web, usb attachments, etc.. I recommend it. This is the non-free Sun version, though, as I didn't have a lot of luck (it was some time ago) with t

Re: VM software for personal use?

This has been discussed before. Search the mailing-list archive. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/z2z6b1504c41004230940rd5991ebepd8b51a9524b4e...@mail.

VM software for personal use?

Hi all, I am looking to run some virtual machines for personal use: I'd like to (attempt to) try out some alternative OSes from within my Lenny host. My goals are to be able to get a taste of some more "exotic" systems (maybe: BSD, Plan 9, Open Genera) without threatening my stable environment, a