Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-11 Thread peasthope
> ... about Adobe Flash. Without it, a good portion > of the web is not accessable, ... This is relevant. "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flash#Criticism"; Peter E. -- Carnot is down, waiting for a disk replacement. Personal site works; http://members.shaw.

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/11/2010 01:08 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/10/2010 10:04 PM, ABSDoug wrote: --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Neal Hogan wrote: Fuck off! Now that I know Mr. Hogan here doesn't have anything intelligent to add, off to the kill file with him! Does Yahoo even *have* filter

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-11 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/10/2010 10:04 PM, ABSDoug wrote: --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Neal Hogan wrote: Fuck off! Now that I know Mr. Hogan here doesn't have anything intelligent to add, off to the kill file with him! Does Yahoo even *have* filter rules? It does but that's just a name, the

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-10 Thread Matthew Moore
On Thursday 10 June 2010 9:04:52 pm ABSDoug wrote: > --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Neal Hogan wrote: > Now that I know Mr. Hogan here doesn't have anything intelligent to add, > off to the kill file with him! It is not necessary to let us know when you are going to ignore someone. Surely a personal emai

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/10/2010 10:04 PM, ABSDoug wrote: --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Neal Hogan wrote: Fuck off! Now that I know Mr. Hogan here doesn't have anything intelligent to add, off to the kill file with him! Does Yahoo even *have* filter rules? -- "There is usually only a limited amount of damage that

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-10 Thread Neal Hogan
yeah! On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:04 PM, ABSDoug wrote: > --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Neal Hogan wrote: > >> Fuck off! > > Now that I know Mr. Hogan here doesn't have anything intelligent to add, off > to the kill file with him! > > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-10 Thread ABSDoug
--- On Thu, 6/10/10, Neal Hogan wrote: > Fuck off! Now that I know Mr. Hogan here doesn't have anything intelligent to add, off to the kill file with him! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-10 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/10/2010 04:39 PM, ABSDoug wrote: --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: He will ask you the exact URL... If *I* was the person posting advice, *I* would have posted the > URL. But then I try to make things EASY when helping... as opposed > to being difficult on a list des

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-10 Thread Neal Hogan
BTW -- I hope that your referee understands my English "curse-words," so that I can get ejected from this silly little game ;-) On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Neal Hogan wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:39 PM, ABSDoug wrote: >> --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: >> >>> He w

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-10 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:39 PM, ABSDoug wrote: > --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > >> He will ask you the exact URL... > > If *I* was the person posting advice, *I* would have posted the URL. But then > I try to make things EASY when helping... as opposed to being difficult

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-10 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 10 June 2010 16:43:29 ABSDoug wrote: > --- On Thu, 6/10/10, John Hasler wrote: > > Iceweasel is not merely a clone of Firefox. It _is_ > > Firefox. It's > > called Iceweasel in Debian because Mozilla doesn't want > > Debian to use > > the trademarked Firefox name. > > Thanks for tha

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-10 Thread ABSDoug
--- On Thu, 6/10/10, Alexander Batischev wrote: <<>> +++ What, no link? ;-) I've got it bookmarked. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.deb

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-10 Thread ABSDoug
--- On Thu, 6/10/10, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > He will ask you the exact URL... If *I* was the person posting advice, *I* would have posted the URL. But then I try to make things EASY when helping... as opposed to being difficult on a list designed to help people. -- To UNSU

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-10 Thread ABSDoug
--- On Thu, 6/10/10, John Hasler wrote: > Iceweasel is not merely a clone of Firefox.  It _is_ > Firefox.  It's > called Iceweasel in Debian because Mozilla doesn't want > Debian to use > the trademarked Firefox name. Thanks for that clarification. In doing some more reading... isn't Firefox the

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-10 Thread Alexander Batischev
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 06:46:11AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Alexander Batischev writes: > > Iceweasel (Debian clone of Firefox)... > > Iceweasel is not merely a clone of Firefox. It _is_ Firefox. It's > called Iceweasel in Debian because Mozilla doesn't want Debian to use > the trademarked Fi

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-10 Thread Erwan David
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 03:05:07PM CEST, Jordan Metzmeier said: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 06/10/2010 09:01 AM, Erwan David wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 01:46:11PM CEST, John Hasler > > said: > >> Alexander Batischev writes: > >>> Iceweasel (Debian clone o

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-10 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 06/10/2010 09:01 AM, Erwan David wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 01:46:11PM CEST, John Hasler > said: >> Alexander Batischev writes: >>> Iceweasel (Debian clone of Firefox)... >> >> Iceweasel is not merely a clone of Firefox. It _is_ Firefox.

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-10 Thread Erwan David
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 01:46:11PM CEST, John Hasler said: > Alexander Batischev writes: > > Iceweasel (Debian clone of Firefox)... > > Iceweasel is not merely a clone of Firefox. It _is_ Firefox. It's > called Iceweasel in Debian because Mozilla doesn't want Debian to use > the trademarked Fir

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-10 Thread John Hasler
Alexander Batischev writes: > Iceweasel (Debian clone of Firefox)... Iceweasel is not merely a clone of Firefox. It _is_ Firefox. It's called Iceweasel in Debian because Mozilla doesn't want Debian to use the trademarked Firefox name. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-r

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-10 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
> Alexander Batischev : >> After a few bumps in the road, I'm finding Debian Stable as easy to >> use as Ubuntu. Thanks for all that helped, it is really cool of >> you. > Excuse me for rudeness, but: that's because you don't do much by > yourself. Have you ever read "How to Ask Questions in a S

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-09 Thread Alexander Batischev
On Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 10:07:15PM -0700, ABSDoug wrote: > I've been Googling Ephathy vs Firefox vs Opera as well as Adobe Flash. I'm > not sure what is the best direction to go. Use what you like. > I've got an iPhone, so I'm a bit familar with what sucks (& doesn't) about > Adobe Flash. Without

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-09 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 10 June 2010 06:07:15 ABSDoug wrote: > I also read a bit why Ubuntu uses Firefox & Debian doesn't. Debian does. It just calls it Iceweasel. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.deb

Re: Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-09 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:07 PM, ABSDoug wrote: I also read a bit why Ubuntu uses Firefox & Debian doesn't. None of what I read was a decision maker. debian uses iceweasel, something about legalese with the mozilla lads. whateveres, iceweasel works just as well. there are ways to install flash.

Web browsers, Adobe Flash & Debian

2010-06-09 Thread ABSDoug
I've been Googling Ephathy vs Firefox vs Opera as well as Adobe Flash. I'm not sure what is the best direction to go. I've got an iPhone, so I'm a bit familar with what sucks (& doesn't) about Adobe Flash. Without it, a good portion of the web is not accessable, unless there is something I'm mi