Re: What are your best practices for running Debian unstable?

2011-03-13 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 12 mar 11, 19:07:50, darkestkhan wrote: I'm running sid / experimental so dist-upgrade in my case is almost like throwing away half of the system; And I'm using aptitude safe-upgrade which is good solution. Also frequent ( I'm doing upgrade at least 2 times a day ) upgrades are really

Re: What are your best practices for running Debian unstable?

2011-03-13 Thread darkestkhan
2011/3/13 Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com: On Sb, 12 mar 11, 19:07:50, darkestkhan wrote: I'm running sid / experimental so dist-upgrade in my case is almost like throwing away half of the system; And I'm using aptitude safe-upgrade which is good solution. Also frequent ( I'm doing

Re: What are your best practices for running Debian unstable?

2011-03-13 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 12 mar 11, 12:32:47, Aniruddha wrote: I've collected some best practices for running Debian unstable, I'm curious to hear what other Debian unstable users do to minimize possible problems with running Debian unstable. My current list: Did you consider starting a wiki page about it? *

Re: What are your best practices for running Debian unstable?

2011-03-13 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 13 mar 11, 13:33:40, darkestkhan wrote: In which case I'm manually intervening, though aptitude is solving this problem in most cases for me really gracefully. Running apt-get dist-upgrade would cause removal of ~2GB ( latex, fonts, and few other ) of packages just to get slightly

Re: What are your best practices for running Debian unstable?

2011-03-13 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 07:07:50PM +, darkestkhan wrote: You know you are arguing with people who have been using sid under controlled and considerate ways for YEARS. (Not just a year.) 2011/3/12 John Hasler jhas...@debian.org: darkestkhan writes: ...I don't see a reason why

What are your best practices for running Debian unstable?

2011-03-12 Thread Aniruddha
I've collected some best practices for running Debian unstable, I'm curious to hear what other Debian unstable users do to minimize possible problems with running Debian unstable. My current list: * Install apt-listbugs * Install apt-listchanges * Check the ' Debian Weather' before

Re: What are your best practices for running Debian unstable?

2011-03-12 Thread darkestkhan
2011/3/12 Aniruddha mailingdotl...@gmail.com: I've collected some best practices for running Debian unstable,  I'm curious to hear what other Debian unstable users do to minimize possible problems with running Debian unstable. My current list: * Install apt-listbugs * Install apt-listchanges

Re: What are your best practices for running Debian unstable?

2011-03-12 Thread Aniruddha
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:43 PM, darkestkhan darkestk...@gmail.com wrote: I don't check Debian Weather, and I don't see a reason why should I do dist-upgrade, after all I'm running sid constantly There is a difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade. I prefer to do an upgrade first followed by

Re: What are your best practices for running Debian unstable?

2011-03-12 Thread John Hasler
darkestkhan writes: ...I don't see a reason why should I do dist-upgrade, after all I'm running sid constantly... Because the sort of inter-release changes dist-upgrade is intended to handle can happen in Sid at any time. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

RE: What are your best practices for running Debian unstable?

2011-03-12 Thread mike cutie and maia
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: What are your best practices for running Debian unstable? 2011/3/12 Aniruddha mailingdotl...@gmail.com: I've collected some best practices for running Debian unstable, I'm curious to hear what other Debian unstable users

Re: What are your best practices for running Debian unstable?

2011-03-12 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
TOFU Corrected. In 086801cbe0be$30b00080$92100180$@centurytel.net, mike cutie and maia wrote: -Original Message- From: darkestkhan [mailto:darkestk...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:43 AM IMHO apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges are something that everyone should have

Re: What are your best practices for running Debian unstable?

2011-03-12 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:32:47PM +0100, Aniruddha wrote: I've collected some best practices for running Debian unstable, I'm curious to hear what other Debian unstable users do to minimize possible problems with running Debian unstable. My current list: * Install apt-listbugs * Install

Re: What are your best practices for running Debian unstable?

2011-03-12 Thread Brad Alexander
I also run apticron, regardless of release. This gives me a daily list of packages which needs to be upgraded, and in addition, a list of changelogs: apticron has detected that some packages need upgrading on: dax [ 192.168.1.61 ] The following packages are currently pending an

Re: What are your best practices for running Debian unstable?

2011-03-12 Thread darkestkhan
2011/3/12 John Hasler jhas...@debian.org: darkestkhan writes: ...I don't see a reason why should I do dist-upgrade, after all I'm running sid constantly... Because the sort of inter-release changes dist-upgrade is intended to handle can happen in Sid at any time. I'm running sid /

Re: What are your best practices for running Debian unstable?

2011-03-12 Thread Freeman
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:32:47PM +0100, Aniruddha wrote: I've collected some best practices for running Debian unstable, I'm curious to hear what other Debian unstable users do to minimize possible problems with running Debian unstable. My current list: * Install apt-listbugs * Install

Re: What are your best practices for running Debian unstable?

2011-03-12 Thread John Hasler
darkestkhan writes: Also frequent ( I'm doing upgrade at least 2 times a day ) upgrades are really sorting out most of inter-release changes that may ( or may not ) happen in Sid. I've been running Sid ever since it was created. I just upgrade individual packages as needed and do a