Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-25 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 11:57:32 + Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:31:42PM -, Curt wrote: > >If any survey was to occur, perhaps it would have been best to engage in > >it preliminarily. > > I think that's a little unreasonable. On a relaxed list such as this, I > don't

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:31:42PM -, Curt wrote: If any survey was to occur, perhaps it would have been best to engage in it preliminarily. I think that's a little unreasonable. On a relaxed list such as this, I don't think posters can be expected to put in the kind of research work that

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-23 Thread deloptes
Celejar wrote: > It will often be somewhat more complicated. Many smarthosts will refuse > to accept mail if the envelope 'From' and / or the email 'From:' header > do not match the user's account name with the smarthost, so address > rewriting will be necessary. >From what I know is that sooner

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-23 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 18:56:50 -0600 David Wright wrote: > On Fri 22 Feb 2019 at 14:16:43 (+), Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:08:40PM -, Curt wrote: > > > What Linux mail user agents lack this feature, if it is uncommon? > > > > I thought it was uncommon, but

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-22 Thread David Wright
On Fri 22 Feb 2019 at 14:16:43 (+), Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:08:40PM -, Curt wrote: > > What Linux mail user agents lack this feature, if it is uncommon? > > I thought it was uncommon, but perhaps it isn't. I'm not going to spend > my time exhaustively

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-22 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 14:16:43 + Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:08:40PM -, Curt wrote: > >What Linux mail user agents lack this feature, if it is uncommon? > > I thought it was uncommon, but perhaps it isn't. I'm not going to spend > my time exhaustively surveying

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-22 Thread Curt
On 2019-02-22, Reco wrote: >> >> What Linux mail user agents lack this feature, if it is uncommon? > > Let's see. > kmail, balsa, evolution - basically anything that's either shipped with > DE, or written with "Modern App" approach in mind. Kmail has it:

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-22 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:08:40PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-02-22, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 09:37:06AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> (2) Mutt has a feature that lets you send an EXACT copy of a message > >>> to a different address, preserving all of

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-22 Thread Curt
On 2019-02-22, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:08:40PM -, Curt wrote: >>What Linux mail user agents lack this feature, if it is uncommon? > > I thought it was uncommon, but perhaps it isn't. I'm not going to spend > my time exhaustively surveying them to be sure. Perhaps

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-22 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 02:08:40PM -, Curt wrote: What Linux mail user agents lack this feature, if it is uncommon? I thought it was uncommon, but perhaps it isn't. I'm not going to spend my time exhaustively surveying them to be sure. Perhaps it's just not generally a well-known feature.

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-22 Thread Curt
On 2019-02-22, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 09:37:06AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> (2) Mutt has a feature that lets you send an EXACT copy of a message >>> to a different address, preserving all of the headers and content >>> verbatim. Mutt calls this "bouncing". >> >>If

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-22 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 10:52:37AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > The same result can be achieved with a procmail recipe, or a shell > script, if you have access to the raw mail. ... and if you do not - you're not using a proper e-mail client anyway. Reco

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-22 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 09:37:06AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: (2) Mutt has a feature that lets you send an EXACT copy of a message to a different address, preserving all of the headers and content verbatim. Mutt calls this "bouncing". If this is such a good feature, why is mutt the only agent

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-22 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 08:36:06AM -, Curt wrote: [...] > Whoever came up with the idea of calling the redirection of a message a > bounce, when the term was already in use for 'Return to sender/Address > unknown/No such number/No such zone' (hi Elvis!) should be sent to bed > with no

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-22 Thread Curt
On 2019-02-21, Celejar wrote: >> >> And as far as I know, fetchmail has no ability/facility to bounce a >> message. Fetchmail-6.3.26 IIRC. Locally built from tarball. > > 'Bouncing' a message is typically done by a MUA (Kmail, in your case), > not the MDA (fetchmail, in your case). Other MUAs

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 21 February 2019 11:20:52 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 21 February 2019 03:59:37 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > You can also

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 21 February 2019 09:59:53 Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 08:40:28 -0500 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 21 February 2019 08:25:54 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300,

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-21 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 08:40:28 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 21 February 2019 08:25:54 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > You can also help

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Feb 2019 at 16:32:18 (+0300), Reco wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 21 February 2019 03:59:37 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > You can also help us by

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-21 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, February 21, 2019 09:01:04 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > (2) Mutt has a feature that lets you send an EXACT copy of a message to > a different address, preserving all of the headers and content > verbatim. Mutt calls this "bouncing". I'm just coming in from left field (without

Re: Message exchange systems (was: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks])

2019-02-21 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:38:50AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Sorry for being so clear, but I feel strongly about mail: it's the last > > means of communication left where I have the choice of client software, > > Mostly true. It does suffer from a terrible design w.r.t encryption, tho. >

Message exchange systems (was: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks])

2019-02-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Sorry for being so clear, but I feel strongly about mail: it's the last > means of communication left where I have the choice of client software, Mostly true. It does suffer from a terrible design w.r.t encryption, tho. The other existing mediums (with a choice of clients) I'm aware of are

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-21 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 21 February 2019 03:59:37 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > You can also help us by bouncing (as in mutt) spam to > > >

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-21 Thread Dan Ritter
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 21 February 2019 09:01:04 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > Forwarding and bouncing are completely different operations. If > > > > you aren't using mutt/neomutt and don't have a literal bounce > > > > feature, then please just ignore this part. > > > > > > I am

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-21 Thread Curt
On 2019-02-21, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> (2) Mutt has a feature that lets you send an EXACT copy of a message >> to a different address, preserving all of the headers and content >> verbatim. Mutt calls this "bouncing". > > If this is such a good feature, why is mutt the only agent doing it? >>

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 21 February 2019 09:01:04 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Forwarding and bouncing are completely different operations. If > > > you aren't using mutt/neomutt and don't have a literal bounce > > > feature, then please just ignore this part. > > > > I am not using mutt. TDE version of

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
> > Forwarding and bouncing are completely different operations. If you > > aren't using mutt/neomutt and don't have a literal bounce feature, > > then please just ignore this part. > > I am not using mutt. TDE version of kmail. And I'd point out that the > threat of a list unsubscribe is

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-21 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:43:47AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 21 February 2019 08:32:18 Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday 21 February 2019 03:59:37 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > On Thu,

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 21 February 2019 08:25:54 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > [...] > > > > > > > You can also help us by bouncing (as in mutt) spam to > > > >

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 21 February 2019 08:32:18 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 21 February 2019 03:59:37 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > You can

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-21 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 21 February 2019 03:59:37 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > You can also help us by bouncing (as in mutt) spam to > > >

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > [...] > > > > > You can also help us by bouncing (as in mutt) spam to > > > report-lists...@lists.debian.org > This _might_ be a good idea, if that address took forwards.

Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 21 February 2019 03:59:37 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > [...] > > > You can also help us by bouncing (as in mutt) spam to > > report-lists...@lists.debian.org > > Thanks > -- t This _might_ be a good idea, if that address took

What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

2019-02-21 Thread tomas
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote: [...] > You can also help us by bouncing (as in mutt) spam to > report-lists...@lists.debian.org Thanks -- t signature.asc Description: Digital signature