Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-09 Thread Patrick Bartek
- Original Message - > From: Chris Davies > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:27 AM > Subject: Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity > > Patrick Bartek wrote: >> I'm beginning to believe--I have n

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-09 Thread Chris Davies
Patrick Bartek wrote: > I'm beginning to believe--I have no definitive proof, as yet--that > the gaps are a simplistic partition alignment solution to maintain > optimum hard drive performance for all hard drive(s) configurations, > all RAIDs, all filesystems, etc. I wouldn't mind hearing the ans

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-08 Thread Patrick Bartek
- Original Message - > From: Chris Davies > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 5:04 AM > Subject: Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity > > Mark Allums wrote: >> If you are using LVM, you need to leave 1MB bef

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-08 Thread Patrick Bartek
- Original Message - > From: Darac Marjal > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 1:21 AM > Subject: Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 10:10:30PM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: >> &

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-08 Thread Chris Davies
Mark Allums wrote: > If you are using LVM, you need to leave 1MB before and after the partition > for metadata. Some of the tools do this automatically for you. If you > don't like it, you can manually adjust the start and end yourself. I use LVM and I'm pretty sure there are no such gaps on my

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-08 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 10:10:30PM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > I understand the need to align partitions particularly when dealing with > RAIDed drives.  It's just that I thought partitioning utilities for some > years now have automatically aligned partitions.  However, I've never noticed

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-07 Thread Patrick Bartek
- Original Message - > From: Mark Allums > To: 'Debian User' > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 1:26 PM > Subject: RE: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity > > > [snip] >> >> So, again I ask:  Why that 1MiB unpartitioned space

RE: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-06 Thread Mark Allums
>From: Patrick Bartek [mailto:bartek...@yahoo.com] >> From: Tom H >> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: >>> From: Roger Leigh LVM does not use unpartitioned space for anything TTBOMK. It uses physical volumes (PVs) which are block devices (either partitions or >

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-05 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: >> From: Tom H >> Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2013 4:32 AM >> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Patrick Bartek >> wrote: >>> From: Roger Leigh >>> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 3:02 AM LVM does not use unpartitioned space for anything

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-05 Thread Patrick Bartek
- Original Message - > From: Tom H > To: Debian User > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2013 4:32 AM > Subject: Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity > > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Patrick Bartek > wrote: >> From: Roger Leigh >> S

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-05 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > From: Roger Leigh > Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 3:02 AM >> >> LVM does not use unpartitioned space for anything TTBOMK. It uses >> physical volumes (PVs) which are block devices (either partitions or >> whole disks or RAID arrays etc.). Th

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-04 Thread Patrick Bartek
- Original Message - > From: Roger Leigh > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Cc: > Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 3:02 AM > Subject: Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity > > On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:15:09AM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: >> Since

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-04 Thread Patrick Bartek
- Original Message - > From: Bonno Bloksma > To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" > Cc: > Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 1:40 AM > Subject: RE: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity > > [snip] >>> >>> >>> Just for the record

RE: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-04 Thread Go Linux
--- On Fri, 1/4/13, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > From: Bonno Bloksma > Subject: RE: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity > To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" > Date: Friday, January 4, 2013, 3:40 AM > Hi, Patrick, > > >> [snip] > >>>  > &g

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-04 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:15:09AM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > Since my original post, I've been reading up on GPT.  Based on that, plus > what others have posted here, it seems the cause of the gaps is a combination > of aligning partitions based 4096 byte sectors, regardless of whether they >

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-04 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:15:09AM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > Thanks.  Now, I know it's not just my install or a quirk in VirtualBox.  It's > the installer. > > Since my original post, I've been reading up on GPT.  Based on that, plus > what others have posted here, it seems the cause

RE: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-04 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, Patrick, >> [snip] >>> > >>> > FWIW, the wheezy installer created the same partitioning scheme >>> on a hard drive > install the first time I gave wheezy a run.  I >>> found that rather odd and a good > reason to manually partition the >>> drive prior to installing wheezy in the > f

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
- Original Message - > From: Go Linux > To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" ; Patrick > Bartek > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:57 PM > Subject: Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity > > [snip] >> > >> > FWIW, th

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-03 Thread Go Linux
--- On Thu, 1/3/13, Patrick Bartek wrote: > From: Patrick Bartek > Subject: Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity > To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" > Date: Thursday, January 3, 2013, 12:15 PM > > > > > - Original Message - >

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
- Original Message - > From: Mark Allums > To: 'Bonno Bloksma' ; 'Patrick Bartek' > ; debian-user@lists.debian.org > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 4:39 AM > Subject: RE: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity > >> From:

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
- Original Message - > From: Bonno Bloksma > To: Patrick Bartek ; "debian-user@lists.debian.org" > > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 11:04 PM > Subject: RE: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity > > Hi Patrick, > >> In prepar

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
- Original Message - > From: Go Linux > To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 5:42 PM > Subject: Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity > > --- On Wed, 1/2/13, Patrick Bartek wrote: >> >> As I s

RE: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-03 Thread Mark Allums
> From: Bonno Bloksma [mailto:b.blok...@tio.nl] > To: Patrick Bartek; debian-user@lists.debian.org > Hi Patrick, > > > In preparation of a clean install of Wheezy, I did a test install in VirtualBox > 3.1.8 running under  Fedora 12 64-bit. > > To save time, I used the installer's default partition

RE: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-02 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi Patrick, > In preparation of a clean install of Wheezy, I did a test install in > VirtualBox 3.1.8 running under  Fedora 12 64-bit. > To save time, I used the installer's default partitioning scheme.  Normally I > custom partition. > Anyway, I noticed an oddity:  There are gaps between the p

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-02 Thread Go Linux
--- On Wed, 1/2/13, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > As I said in my original query, this partitioning was done > automatically by the Wheezy installer.  I would have never > partitioned that way myself.  Besides this is just a test > install to root out any problems for when I do the real one > on a re

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-02 Thread Patrick Bartek
- Original Message - > From: Gary Dale > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Cc: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" > Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 1:52 PM > Subject: Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity > > On 02/01/13 04:25 PM, Patrick Bartek

Re: Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-02 Thread Gary Dale
On 02/01/13 04:25 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: In preparation of a clean install of Wheezy, I did a test install in VirtualBox 3.1.8 running under Fedora 12 64-bit. To save time, I used the installer's default partitioning scheme. Normally I custom partition. Anyway, I noticed an oddity: The

Wheezy Installer Auto-Partition Oddity

2013-01-02 Thread Patrick Bartek
In preparation of a clean install of Wheezy, I did a test install in VirtualBox 3.1.8 running under  Fedora 12 64-bit.  To save time, I used the installer's default partitioning scheme.  Normally I custom partition.  Anyway, I noticed an oddity:  There are gaps between the partitions.  Sizable o