Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

2017-03-29 Thread Brian
On Tue 28 Mar 2017 at 16:10:57 +, Curt wrote: > On 2017-03-28, David Wright wrote: > > 84% could be "hiding" other information from our eyes. > > > > I've never looked at (let alone examined) these files after scanning > > CDs with synaptic (assuming these same

Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

2017-03-28 Thread David Wright
On Tue 28 Mar 2017 at 16:10:57 (+), Curt wrote: > On 2017-03-28, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 26 Mar 2017 at 11:31:57 (+), Curt wrote: > >> On 2017-03-25, David Wright wrote: > >> > On Sat 25 Mar 2017 at 10:50:50 (+), Curt wrote:

Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

2017-03-28 Thread Curt
On 2017-03-28, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 26 Mar 2017 at 11:31:57 (+), Curt wrote: >> On 2017-03-25, David Wright wrote: >> > On Sat 25 Mar 2017 at 10:50:50 (+), Curt wrote: >> >> Actually, srcpkgcache.bin includes the information

Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

2017-03-27 Thread David Wright
On Sun 26 Mar 2017 at 11:31:57 (+), Curt wrote: > On 2017-03-25, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 25 Mar 2017 at 10:50:50 (+), Curt wrote: > >> Actually, srcpkgcache.bin includes the information contained in the files > >> in /var/lib/apt/lists; that is, all the

Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

2017-03-26 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/25/2017 04:05 PM, David Wright wrote: [snip] So my parting suggestion is running synaptic under strace and examining the output at the time it becomes disgruntled and wants those DVDs to be scanned (which is what the OP wants to avoid having to do). If that fails, the source of

Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

2017-03-26 Thread Curt
On 2017-03-25, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 25 Mar 2017 at 10:50:50 (+), Curt wrote: >> Actually, srcpkgcache.bin includes the information contained in the files >> in /var/lib/apt/lists; that is, all the info you obtain from the internet >> via your deb and deb-src

Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

2017-03-25 Thread David Wright
On Sat 25 Mar 2017 at 10:50:50 (+), Curt wrote: > Actually, srcpkgcache.bin includes the information contained in the files > in /var/lib/apt/lists; that is, all the info you obtain from the internet > via your deb and deb-src lines -- this information changes only on > apt-get update. > >

Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

2017-03-25 Thread David Wright
On Sat 25 Mar 2017 at 12:59:50 (+), Brian wrote: > On Fri 24 Mar 2017 at 16:31:25 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > On Thu 23 Mar 2017 at 11:29:38 (+), Brian wrote: > > > On Thu 23 Mar 2017 at 10:12:57 +, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 08:08:28PM -0500,

Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

2017-03-25 Thread Brian
On Fri 24 Mar 2017 at 16:31:25 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 23 Mar 2017 at 11:29:38 (+), Brian wrote: > > On Thu 23 Mar 2017 at 10:12:57 +, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 08:08:28PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >On 03/17/2017 08:47 AM, Richard Owlett

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 21 March 2017 12:11:00 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 02:27:47AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Brian, I squirmed. "Data is" ... I can just about handle. I CANNOT > > (yes, I can shout too!) handle "agenda is". Agenda are always more > > than one thing. > > That is

Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

2017-03-25 Thread Curt
On 2017-03-24, David Wright wrote: > > Good point. I noticed that the two .bin files in /var/cache/apt/ that > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/03/msg00722.html > mentioned, come and go with apt-get update and clean respectively. > I had overlooked how ephemeral

Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

2017-03-24 Thread David Wright
On Thu 23 Mar 2017 at 11:29:38 (+), Brian wrote: > On Thu 23 Mar 2017 at 10:12:57 +, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 08:08:28PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > >On 03/17/2017 08:47 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > >>As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. > >

Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

2017-03-24 Thread Brian
On Wed 22 Mar 2017 at 20:08:28 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/17/2017 08:47 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. > >Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh > >install to a different partition. > >It is annoying to keep

Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

2017-03-23 Thread Brian
On Thu 23 Mar 2017 at 10:12:57 +, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 08:08:28PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >On 03/17/2017 08:47 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. > >>Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh

Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

2017-03-23 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 08:08:28PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/17/2017 08:47 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh install to a different partition. It is annoying to keep re-scanning

Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

2017-03-23 Thread Brian
On Wed 22 Mar 2017 at 20:08:28 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/17/2017 08:47 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. > >Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh > >install to a different partition. > >It is annoying to keep

An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

2017-03-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/17/2017 08:47 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh install to a different partition. It is annoying to keep re-scanning a set of 13 DVDs. Where is the information stored?

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/21/2017 03:31 PM, Brian wrote: [snip] This part of my response wasn't very clear. I was thinking of > you don't appear to have looked to see if it was correct at the time and was wondering why the OP has let his issue hang in the air in his responses. Because I've not yet absorbed

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-21 Thread Brian
On Mon 20 Mar 2017 at 20:23:48 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 20 Mar 2017 at 23:03:29 (+), Brian wrote: > > On Sun 19 Mar 2017 at 23:25:47 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > > On Sun 19 Mar 2017 at 08:50:55 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > On 03/19/2017 08:08 AM, David Wright

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 02:27:47AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > Brian, I squirmed. "Data is" ... I can just about handle. I CANNOT (yes, I > can shout too!) handle "agenda is". Agenda are always more than one > thing. That is not how the word is used in current English. Just run "dict

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 20 March 2017 23:03:29 Brian wrote: > [1] I've given up on "agenda"; but not on "data". The World will > eventually see the error of its ways. Brian, I squirmed. "Data is" ... I can just about handle. I CANNOT (yes, I can shout too!) handle "agenda is". Agenda are always more

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-20 Thread David Wright
On Mon 20 Mar 2017 at 23:03:29 (+), Brian wrote: > On Sun 19 Mar 2017 at 23:25:47 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > On Sun 19 Mar 2017 at 08:50:55 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > On 03/19/2017 08:08 AM, David Wright wrote: > > > >[snip ;] > > > > > > > >How's the other research coming

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-20 Thread Brian
On Sun 19 Mar 2017 at 23:25:47 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 19 Mar 2017 at 08:50:55 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 03/19/2017 08:08 AM, David Wright wrote: > > >[snip ;] > > > > > >How's the other research coming along? > > >Did you see if there were files whose timestamps change? >

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-19 Thread David Wright
and should have > been replaced by a single line quoting the subject line. > > Perhaps the Subject/Body could have been phrased as > "Where is what data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?" > > Those 13 bookmarks will begin to answer that question. I'm pess

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-19 Thread Richard Owlett
read is just the tip of a proverbial iceberg. The subject line is my question. Perhaps my original post gave too much information and should have been replaced by a single line quoting the subject line. Perhaps the Subject/Body could have been phrased as "Where is what data stored when Syn

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-19 Thread David Wright
On Sun 19 Mar 2017 at 06:35:59 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/18/2017 06:13 PM, Brian wrote: > >On Sat 18 Mar 2017 at 19:23:00 +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > > > >>Brian: > >Stop pissing about. Is the data in /var/lib/apt or not? > > I use to have friends like you when I worked

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-19 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/18/2017 06:13 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 18 Mar 2017 at 19:23:00 +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: Brian: Stop pissing about. Is the data in /var/lib/apt or not? I use to have friends like you when I worked in boat yards and ships. They seemed to behave better while talking to someone with

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread songbird
deloptes wrote: ... > very good advise songbird > > we would usually dd the iso and mount via loop, then use either http or file > share to provide the installer to the client plenty of ways to get this done. i forgot to mention that i've had media go bad (both cds and dvds) and at that

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread Brian
On Sat 18 Mar 2017 at 19:23:00 +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Brian: > >>> Stop pissing about. Is the data in /var/lib/apt or not? > >> > >> I use to have friends like you when I worked in boat yards and > >> ships. They seemed to behave better while talking to someone with a 4" > >> pipe

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread deloptes
songbird wrote: > as for space, space is cheap these days, it takes > a lot longer to load files from dvd for each install > instead of loading them from another media.  if i > were doing as many installs as you seem to be doing > i for sure would not want to waste my time waiting > for something

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Brian: >>> Stop pissing about. Is the data in /var/lib/apt or not? >> >> I use to have friends like you when I worked in boat yards and >> ships. They seemed to behave better while talking to someone with a 4" >> pipe wrench in hand. Is this what it is about? Not having a wrench >> around

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/17/2017 11:15 AM, songbird wrote: >> Richard Owlett wrote: >>> As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. >>> Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh >>> install to a different partition. >>> It is annoying to keep re-scanning a set

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread Curt
On 2017-03-18, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Brian: >> On Fri 17 Mar 2017 at 15:29:58 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >>> On 03/17/2017 11:15 AM, songbird wrote: man apt-get >>> >>> It implies *BUT DOES _NOT_ STATE* the all the requested data is in the >>>

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread Brian
On Sat 18 Mar 2017 at 17:34:00 +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Brian: > > On Fri 17 Mar 2017 at 15:29:58 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >> On 03/17/2017 11:15 AM, songbird wrote: > >>> > >>> man apt-get > >> > >> It implies *BUT DOES _NOT_ STATE* the all the requested data is in the > >>

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Brian: > On Fri 17 Mar 2017 at 15:29:58 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> On 03/17/2017 11:15 AM, songbird wrote: >>> >>> man apt-get >> >> It implies *BUT DOES _NOT_ STATE* the all the requested data is in the >> /var/lib/apt directory. > > Stop pissing about. Is the data in /var/lib/apt or

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread Curt
On 2017-03-17, Richard Owlett wrote: > As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. > Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh > install to a different partition. > It is annoying to keep re-scanning a set of 13 DVDs. > Where is the information

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-18 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/17/2017 10:43 PM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 17 Mar 2017 at 15:29:58 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/17/2017 11:15 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh install

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-17 Thread David Wright
On Fri 17 Mar 2017 at 15:29:58 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/17/2017 11:15 AM, songbird wrote: > >Richard Owlett wrote: > >>As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. > >>Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh > >>install to a different partition. > >>It

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/17/2017 03:57 PM, Brian wrote: On Fri 17 Mar 2017 at 15:29:58 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/17/2017 11:15 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh install to a

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-17 Thread Brian
On Fri 17 Mar 2017 at 15:29:58 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/17/2017 11:15 AM, songbird wrote: > >Richard Owlett wrote: > >>As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. > >>Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh > >>install to a different partition. > >>It

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/17/2017 11:15 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh install to a different partition. It is annoying to keep re-scanning a set of 13 DVDs. Where is the information

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-17 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: > As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. > Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh > install to a different partition. > It is annoying to keep re-scanning a set of 13 DVDs. > Where is the information stored? > /etc/apt/sources.list is

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 08:47:01AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > /etc/apt/sources.list is obvious, but where is the data about contents of > each DVD stored? /var/cache/apt/* I believe -- Jonathan Dowland Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list. signature.asc Description: Digital

Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-17 Thread Richard Owlett
As I have limited bandwidth, I install from DVDs. Also I frequently experiment with various options by doing a fresh install to a different partition. It is annoying to keep re-scanning a set of 13 DVDs. Where is the information stored? /etc/apt/sources.list is obvious, but where is the data