Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-04-12 Thread Jude DaShiell
First, RedHat has a business product which is more stable than Fedora deliberately. Second, unless I'm much mistaken RedHat also offers its business customers phone support for fees. Third, RedHat was the first distro in Government and business took note of that decision and followed along

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-26 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-03-21 00:32:11, schrieb Andrei Popescu: This is very much a reality in my country. I had friends laugh at me when I told them Linux is free (piracy in Romania is estimated to be more than 90%). :-) Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-26 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-03-17 20:05:43, schrieb Ron Johnson: Except when that $90 bottle of wine is really vinegar, but wine snobs insist that it's delicious. :-/ Or that Windows is s much better than Linux, because Linux is cheap. Hmmm, IF I count the time, I have invested in my beloved Debian

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-20 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 08:58:51PM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: Now that's interesting and clever... Did you ever see the article Windows Is Free? It goes into this perceived value thing, too. http://tlug.jp/articles/Windows_Is_Free This is very much a reality in my country. I had

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-18 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 00:02:40 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/17/08 23:12, Thierry Chatelet wrote: [snip] Well, I don't about other countries, but in France you can get the new office 2007 for free from $M. I guess, people are not going to like it? [smile] Does $M stand for

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-18 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:43:01 -0500 Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps it is something uniquely American, but the key to understanding Ron's association is the wine tasting example given in the article. As mentioned earlier in the thread, the sex scandal mentioned only guaranteed

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-18 Thread William Pursell
Ron Johnson wrote: Back to computers: We're such a successful company, we can afford to buy Tier 1 kit, and send all that money to MSFT. And because we do, we *must* be getting good stuff. (If that is, actually, an actual upper-management though process.) upper management thought

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:10:48AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: ... Back to computers: We're such a successful company, we can afford to buy Tier 1 kit, and send all that money to MSFT. And because we do, we *must* be getting good stuff. (If that is, actually, an actual

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 08:50:46PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: ... If you follow the article Ron linked to above, special discounts are apparently subject to the same effect. In a study where people took supposedly mind-enhancing placebo drinks, people who drank the more expensive

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-18 Thread Klein Moebius
* Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-03-18 09:43:49 -0700]: In my experience, it is. Working upper management in a small company some years back, we had to constantly watch what we did because it was so easy to think just that. This is true. I went through the same thing in a

Re: He's probably referring to... (was Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro)

2008-03-18 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, March 17, 2008 7:18 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/17/08 21:10, steve wrote: Jeff D wrote: .com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031602168.html | Looks like the article is about Elliot Spitzer. | Same here. I do not know how it is related to Red Hat. | um, look at the graph

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-18 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, March 17, 2008 10:10 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/17/08 20:43, Nate Bargmann wrote: Perhaps it is something uniquely American, but the key to understanding Ron's association is the wine tasting example given in the article. As mentioned earlier in the thread, the sex scandal mentioned

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-18 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Mar 18 15:09 -0500]: On Mon, March 17, 2008 10:10 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/17/08 20:43, Nate Bargmann wrote: Perhaps it is something uniquely American, but the key to understanding Ron's association is the wine tasting example given in the article.

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-18 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Tuesday 18 March 2008 22:39, Nate Bargmann wrote: * Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Mar 18 15:09 -0500]: On Mon, March 17, 2008 10:10 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/17/08 20:43, Nate Bargmann wrote: Perhaps it is something uniquely American, but the key to understanding Ron's

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-18 Thread Steve Lamb
On Tue, March 18, 2008 2:39 pm, Nate Bargmann wrote: * Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Mar 18 15:09 -0500]: On 03/17/08 20:43, Nate Bargmann wrote: Perhaps it is something uniquely American, but the key to understanding Ron's association is the wine tasting example given in the article.

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-18 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
And I gather that the two that posted about not reading it that I replied to are not in the USA where such a salacious lead-in works all too well quite often. I basically clicked on the link, then saw the headline, did a search for the word linux (which I could not find it, btw) and then

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-18 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Mar 18 17:50 -0500]: On Tue, March 18, 2008 2:39 pm, Nate Bargmann wrote: * Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Mar 18 15:09 -0500]: On 03/17/08 20:43, Nate Bargmann wrote: Perhaps it is something uniquely American, but the key to understanding Ron's

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-18 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Mar 18 04:18 -0500]: On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:43:01 -0500 Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps it is something uniquely American, but the key to understanding Ron's association is the wine tasting example given in the article.

Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031602168.html - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Working with women is a pain in the a**. My wife -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031602168.html - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Working with women is a pain in the a**. My wife -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Raj Kiran Grandhi
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031602168.html Interesting. This reminds me of some article I read somewhere regarding the perception that people tend to take things that are free as in

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Bogdan Marian
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031602168.html - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Working with women is a pain in the a**. My wife -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 17 March 2008 07:29:17 am Ron Johnson wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031602168.html Looks like the article is about Elliot Spitzer. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/17/08 12:00, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031602168.html Interesting. This reminds me of some article I read somewhere regarding the perception that

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/17/08 15:17, Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 17 March 2008 07:29:17 am Ron Johnson wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031602168.html Looks like the article is about Elliot Spitzer. People who read

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 17 March 2008 07:29:17 am Ron Johnson wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031602168.html Looks like the article is about Elliot Spitzer. Same here. I do not know how it is related to Red Hat. raju -- Kamaraju S

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, March 17, 2008 7:29 am, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031602168.html Er, Ron? Wrong CP? This links to an article about Spitzer. -- Steve Lamb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Jeff D
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: On Monday 17 March 2008 07:29:17 am Ron Johnson wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031602168.html Looks like the article is about Elliot Spitzer. Same here. I do not know how it is related to Red

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/17/08 14:57, Steve Lamb wrote: On Mon, March 17, 2008 7:29 am, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031602168.html Er, Ron? Wrong

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread T o n g
to comprehend Why Red Hat is the business distro. -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Alexander Samad
Quoting Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/17/08 14:57, Steve Lamb wrote: On Mon, March 17, 2008 7:29 am, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Michael Marsh
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I the only one on this list who can see that people who think that expensive wines and energy drinks are better than cheap wines and energy drinks just might also think that expensive operating systems are better than

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Thierry Chatelet
related to *sex scandal*, from which I failed to comprehend Why Red Hat is the business distro. -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) Same for me! Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/17/08 19:58, Alexander Samad wrote: Quoting Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 03/17/08 14:57, Steve Lamb wrote: On Mon, March 17, 2008 7:29 am, Ron Johnson wrote:

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Owen Townend
On 03/17/08 14:57, Steve Lamb wrote: On Mon, March 17, 2008 7:29 am, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031602168.html Er, Ron? Wrong CP? This links to an article about

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
Ron Johnson wrote the following on 03/17/2008 07:42 PM: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/17/08 14:57, Steve Lamb wrote: On Mon, March 17, 2008 7:29 am, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/17/08 14:57, Steve Lamb wrote: On Mon, March 17, 2008 7:29 am, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/17/08 14:57, Steve Lamb wrote: On Mon, March 17, 2008 7:29 am, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Damon L. Chesser
which I failed to comprehend Why Red Hat is the business distro. Send me $2500 US and I will explain it to you. You know it has to be good! -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/17/08 20:51, Damon L. Chesser wrote: [snip] How much did your link cost? Huh? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Working with women is a pain in the a**. My wife -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread steve
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff D wrote: .com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031602168.html | | Looks like the article is about Elliot Spitzer. | | | | Same here. I do not know how it is related to Red Hat. | | raju | | um, look at the graph at top ;) | eh? theres

He's probably referring to... (was Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro)

2008-03-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/17/08 21:10, steve wrote: Jeff D wrote: .com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031602168.html | | Looks like the article is about Elliot Spitzer. | | | | Same here. I do not know how it is related to Red Hat. | | raju | | um,

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 17 March 2008, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: This, he says, has the benefit of making those people think that they are getting a product worth a lot for free because they happen to know someone who is an 'insider'.

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Nate Bargmann
the embarrassing news to you but the above url led me to something related to *sex scandal*, from which I failed to comprehend Why Red Hat is the business distro. Same for me! Perhaps it is something uniquely American, but the key to understanding Ron's association is the wine tasting example

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:30:24PM +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031602168.html Interesting. This reminds me of some

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Tuesday 18 March 2008 04:50, Daniel Burrows wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:30:24PM +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread William Pursell
Damon L. Chesser wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031602168.html DC: quoted some 23 lines of RJ's message, including signature block, and added one line of text: Well, That explains why people use MS. Please trim posts

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/17/08 23:12, Thierry Chatelet wrote: [snip] Well, I don't about other countries, but in France you can get the new office 2007 for free from $M. I guess, people are not going to like it? [smile] Does $M stand for $ado-Masochism? :) - --

Re: Why Red Hat is the business distro

2008-03-17 Thread Ron Johnson
/content/article/2008/03/16/AR2008031 602168.html Sorry to be the one who breaks the embarrassing news to you but the above url led me to something related to *sex scandal*, from which I failed to comprehend Why Red Hat is the business distro. Same for me! Perhaps it is something uniquely American