Re: Why are there multiple ways to do things in Debian? (Was Re: package managers problem)

2023-06-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 08:55:24AM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > Debian's capable of deciding that systemd is installed by default, > etc, even if such decisions occur after monumental > discussions/arguments. It took literally years and is still hotly revisited from time to

Re: Why are there multiple ways to do things in Debian? (Was Re: package managers problem)

2023-06-17 Thread John Hasler
Paul writes: > As regards Synaptic, based on the discussion here, I'm guessing that > whoever is maintaining it has no particular desire to craft a Wayland > version, and that's why it hasn't been done. Still, Debian leadership > could put out a call for volunteers to work on this. It *could* be >

Re: Why are there multiple ways to do things in Debian? (Was Re: package managers problem)

2023-06-17 Thread paulf
On Sat, 17 Jun 2023 11:45:06 + Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 11:03:59PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com > wrote: > > Why isn't there a ONE WAY for packages to be managed? > > Because of the fundamental philosophies that underpin how Debian is > developed. Debian is

Re: Why are there multiple ways to do things in Debian? (Was Re: package managers problem)

2023-06-17 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 11:45:06AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > One person's long-overdue deprecation is another person's unwelcome > change. See any of the great Debian controversies such as systemd or > merged-/usr. Things would be vastly simpler in a project where a > small group of people get

Why are there multiple ways to do things in Debian? (Was Re: package managers problem)

2023-06-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 11:03:59PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > Why isn't there a ONE WAY for packages to be managed? Because of the fundamental philosophies that underpin how Debian is developed. Debian is not the sort of place where a top-down authority declares that there is