Re: folders (was Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED])

2020-09-02 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 12:40:21PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: [...] > > I think it's an antipattern, but of course anyone's mileage may vary. > > Having had to explain "computer stuff" to various people over the time > (often older than me) I found the folder analogy to be easier to >

Re: folders (was Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED])

2020-09-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 01 sep 20, 15:53:17, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 06:48:22AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > On 2020-09-01 at 04:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > [1] Why people keep insisting in calling those things "folders" is > > >beyond me. They don't "fold" anything, do

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

2020-09-01 Thread John Crawley
On 2020-09-01 23:11, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 10:03:27AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, September 01, 2020 04:29:55 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [1] Why people keep insisting in calling those things "folders" is beyond me. They don't "fold" anything, do

Re: folders (was Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED])

2020-09-01 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
In fact it used to be called directory, before GUI shells emerged. So MS DOS to dispaly content of "folder" used command named dir. Cheers, Marek Mosiewicz W dniu wto, 01.09.2020 o godzinie 06∶48 -0400, użytkownik The Wanderer napisał: > On 2020-09-01 at 04:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

2020-09-01 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 10:34:59AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 04:08:45PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > That depends on context, program, etc. But if you give the program > > an absolute path, every directory from the root down to the file > > has to be readable for

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

2020-09-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 04:08:45PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > That depends on context, program, etc. But if you give the program > an absolute path, every directory from the root down to the file > has to be readable for your program. Every directory in the path must have the +x bit for

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

2020-09-01 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 10:03:27AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, September 01, 2020 04:29:55 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [1] Why people keep insisting in calling those things "folders" is > >beyond me. They don't "fold" anything, do they? > > (My day to make extraneous

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

2020-09-01 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 11:02:18PM +1000, elvis wrote: > > On 1/9/20 6:29 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 04:57:28PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > > > >[...] > > > >>Just to be clear, the folder I had to change permissions on is the > >> >>document root, > >To be able to access

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

2020-09-01 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, September 01, 2020 04:29:55 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [1] Why people keep insisting in calling those things "folders" is >beyond me. They don't "fold" anything, do they? (My day to make extraneous responses? ;-) Historical: file folders hold documents in file cabinets...

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

2020-09-01 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Tue, Sep 1, 2020, 9:34 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 09:30:15AM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > Directories go back, even before Windows: The MSDOS Equivalent to ls is > > dir, which I "guess" means "List Directory". > > > > Ah yes, the "Good old days". > > Yup, but very

Folders [was: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]]

2020-09-01 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 08:05:32AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 10:29:55AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [1] Why people keep insisting in calling those things "folders" is > >beyond me. They don't "fold" anything, do they? > > It's a Microsoft Windows thing.

Re: folders (was Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED])

2020-09-01 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 06:48:22AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2020-09-01 at 04:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > [1] Why people keep insisting in calling those things "folders" is > >beyond me. They don't "fold" anything, do they? > > As I understand matters, it's an extension of the

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

2020-09-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 09:30:15AM -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > Directories go back, even before Windows: The MSDOS Equivalent to ls is > dir, which I "guess" means "List Directory". > > Ah yes, the "Good old days". Yup, but very few of the Microsoft Windows users today have a background in

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

2020-09-01 Thread Dan Ritter
elvis wrote: > > On 1/9/20 6:29 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 04:57:28PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Just to be clear, the folder I had to change permissions on is the > > > > > document root, > > To be able to access a file given its path, you

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

2020-09-01 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Tue, Sep 1, 2020, 8:05 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 10:29:55AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [1] Why people keep insisting in calling those things "folders" is > >beyond me. They don't "fold" anything, do they? > > It's a Microsoft Windows thing. Windows

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

2020-09-01 Thread elvis
On 1/9/20 6:29 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 04:57:28PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: [...] Just to be clear, the folder I had to change permissions on is the To be able to access a file given its path, you need to have read access to each directory [1] along that path.

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

2020-09-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 10:29:55AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [1] Why people keep insisting in calling those things "folders" is >beyond me. They don't "fold" anything, do they? It's a Microsoft Windows thing. Windows presents directories and files graphically, and the icon for a

folders (was Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED])

2020-09-01 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-09-01 at 04:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [1] Why people keep insisting in calling those things "folders" is >beyond me. They don't "fold" anything, do they? As I understand matters, it's an extension of the "desktop" metaphor. Back before computers (and to some extent afterward),

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

2020-09-01 Thread tomas
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 04:57:28PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: [...] > Just to be clear, the folder I had to change permissions on is the > document root, To be able to access a file given its path, you need to have read access to each directory [1] along that path. There isn't another way, and

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

2020-08-31 Thread mick crane
On 2020-08-31 21:57, Gary Dale wrote: Just to be clear, the folder I had to change permissions on is the I think the document root is just where apache2 looks first. *Don't know if you are supposed to do it like that* but think the actual html files can be anywhere so long as they have the

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

2020-08-31 Thread Gary Dale
On 2020-08-31 15:59, Gary Dale wrote: On 2020-08-31 15:14, Gary Dale wrote: On 2020-08-30 13:24, john doe wrote: On 8/30/2020 7:08 PM, john doe wrote: On 8/30/2020 6:27 PM, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Apache 2.4.38-3+deb10u3 on a Debian/Stable server on an AMD64 machine. When I create a

Re: Why can't I move the document root for a site in Apache 2? [SOLVED]

2020-08-31 Thread Gary Dale
On 2020-08-31 15:14, Gary Dale wrote: On 2020-08-30 13:24, john doe wrote: On 8/30/2020 7:08 PM, john doe wrote: On 8/30/2020 6:27 PM, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Apache 2.4.38-3+deb10u3 on a Debian/Stable server on an AMD64 machine. When I create a virtual host under /var/www, everything