On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:32:15 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 31 iul 12, 13:21:40, Celejar wrote:
> > >
> > > From where? Your network is down and your other machine runs on a custom
> > > kernel.
> >
> > Plug the regular machine straight into the internet connection (cable
> > modem) and g
On Ma, 31 iul 12, 13:21:40, Celejar wrote:
> >
> > From where? Your network is down and your other machine runs on a custom
> > kernel.
>
> Plug the regular machine straight into the internet connection (cable
> modem) and grab an appropriate kernel.
Devil's advocate mode: sorry, your ISP requi
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:04:44 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
> On 10/07/12 11:28 PM, Celejar wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:21:37 -0400
> > Gary Dale wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/07/12 10:52 PM, Celejar wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:20:05 -0400
> >>> Gary Dale wrote:
> > ...
> >
> Having a porta
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:05:02 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 10 iul 12, 22:50:02, Celejar wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:22:46 +0300
> > Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > Not quite sure I get you - if my hypothetical router (running x86 HW,
> > not like my actual routers that run OpenWRT on
Hi,
Atıf CEYLAN wrote:
> For example, my wireless card is not supported by debian wheezy standart
> kernel. Also non-free package is not working. So I compile it from
> source code and I change some part of the code (because some part of
> code is not working with my hardware). So I must make com
On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 21:11 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> martin@merkaba:~> ls -lh /boot/{vm,init}*
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14M Jul 3 16:39 /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-3-amd64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14M Jul 3 16:39 /boot/initrd.img-3.4-trunk-amd64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8,8M Jul 3 16:39 /
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> > On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 20:46 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > I did not yet compile a complete KDE
> >
> >
> >
> > Even compiling something simple as e17 without using a script is a
>
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 20:46 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > I did not yet compile a complete KDE
>
> Even compiling something simple as e17 without using a script is a
> PITA :D.
I don´t think that building KDE SC would be that complex, ther
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Raffaele Morelli:
> 2012/7/10 Muhammad Yousuf Khan
>
> > This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i
> > need your help.
> >
> > why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
> > compiling kernel on debian.
> > what is t
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Kumar Appaiah:
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 08:54:29AM -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> > The kernel provided when you install Linux, Debian included, has to
> > work on nearly every system out there so it includes drivers for
> > nearly piece of hardware that can be ins
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:54 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> > Howdy,
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> > > why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
> > > compiling kernel on debian.
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Andrei POPESCU:
> > why should my work machine kernel need to be
> > appropriate for my router?
>
> A stock kernel should work for both. IMHO, even if you do use custom
> kernels, it's probably a good idea to keep a stock kernel around for
> backup and troubles
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 09:04 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
> > The reason machine A is not bootable is because a minor hardware
> > change is capable of doing that with a custom kernel.
>
> +1
>
> I almost exclusively use self-build kernels only, becau
On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 20:46 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> I did not yet compile a complete KDE
Even compiling something simple as e17 without using a script is a
PITA :D.
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Hallo Andrei,
Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2012 schrieb Andrei POPESCU:
> On Ma, 10 iul 12, 15:08:52, Celejar wrote:
> > And why do I care whether the kernel I compile locally for a
> > specific machine is portable?
>
> Imagine a situation where due to whatever reason the kernel image of
> your router m
Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2012 schrieb Gary Dale:
> People who prepare the individual packages or distributions are
> usually the only ones who need to compile code. However, some
> brave/foolhardy souls must have the latest code from the developer's
> source and compile their own. This is invariably
Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón:
> > i have heard many time that people are compiling kernel on debian.
>
> That's a good example.
I wanted to have a 3.5-rc5 kernel for testing. And it did compile in about
10 minutes here. ;)
There is no need to tough, if you happy with packages jus
On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 09:04 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
> The reason machine A is not bootable is because a minor hardware change
> is capable of doing that with a custom kernel.
+1
I almost exclusively use self-build kernels only, because I need them,
but I don't drop too much hardware support, usu
On 10/07/12 11:28 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:21:37 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
On 10/07/12 10:52 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:20:05 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
...
Having a portable kernel is a lot simpler than trying to rescue a
non-bootable machine from a live CD.
Tr
samba etc for
> almost more then 1 year and all the servers are providing me what ever
> i asled all the services are very comprehensive and could be fit in
> any environment then why compiling?
>
again, adding/removing features could be of some interest, don't know about
s
need of
> >> compiling in this time window.
> >>
> >> secondly i have read that people are compiling Squid SAMBA and all
> >> the other packages but why. i am using KVM, squid samba etc for
> >> almost more then 1 year and all the servers are providing
On 11/07/12 01:06, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:54 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
Howdy,
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
compiling kernel on debian.
what is the reason for this? i
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 22:50:02, Celejar wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:22:46 +0300
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> Not quite sure I get you - if my hypothetical router (running x86 HW,
> not like my actual routers that run OpenWRT on arm, and that don't
> have lots of extra MB to spare) needs a new kern
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 08:54:29AM -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> The kernel provided when you install Linux, Debian included, has to work
> on nearly every system out there so it includes drivers for nearly piece
> of hardware that can be installed in a PC.
>
> I always compile a kernel with only t
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:21:37 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
> On 10/07/12 10:52 PM, Celejar wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:20:05 -0400
> > Gary Dale wrote:
...
> >> Having a portable kernel is a lot simpler than trying to rescue a
> >> non-bootable machine from a live CD.
> > True - but then I can
On 10/07/12 10:47 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 02:06:02 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:54 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
Howdy,
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
com
On 10/07/12 10:52 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:20:05 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
On 10/07/12 04:22 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 15:08:52, Celejar wrote:
And why do I care whether the kernel I compile locally for a
specific machine is portable?
Imagine a situation wher
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:20:05 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
> On 10/07/12 04:22 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Ma, 10 iul 12, 15:08:52, Celejar wrote:
> >> And why do I care whether the kernel I compile locally for a
> >> specific machine is portable?
> > Imagine a situation where due to whatever reaso
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:22:46 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 10 iul 12, 15:08:52, Celejar wrote:
> >
> > And why do I care whether the kernel I compile locally for a
> > specific machine is portable?
>
> Imagine a situation where due to whatever reason the kernel image of
> your router ma
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 02:06:02 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:54 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> > Howdy,
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> > >
> > > why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
> > > compiling ke
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:54 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> >
> > why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
> > compiling kernel on debian.
> > what is the reason for this? i am using debian for
Howdy,
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
>
> why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
> compiling kernel on debian.
> what is the reason for this? i am using debian for almost 1.5 year and
> have been using it on different platform in CLI
On 10/07/12 04:22 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 15:08:52, Celejar wrote:
And why do I care whether the kernel I compile locally for a
specific machine is portable?
Imagine a situation where due to whatever reason the kernel image of
your router machine gets corrupted, then you can
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 22:43 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 23:28 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Ma, 10 iul 12, 21:33:51, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > >
> > > I compile software myself for at least three reasons.
> > > 1. In the past I often was a tester for e.g. Qtractor and I
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 23:28 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 10 iul 12, 21:33:51, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >
> > I compile software myself for at least three reasons.
> > 1. In the past I often was a tester for e.g. Qtractor and I plan to do
> > it in the future again. It also is needed, if you
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 21:33:51, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> I compile software myself for at least three reasons.
> 1. In the past I often was a tester for e.g. Qtractor and I plan to do
> it in the future again. It also is needed, if you wish to do
> translations. Until now I never finished a translation
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 15:08:52, Celejar wrote:
>
> And why do I care whether the kernel I compile locally for a
> specific machine is portable?
Imagine a situation where due to whatever reason the kernel image of
your router machine gets corrupted, then you can just copy the file from
another machi
the other packages but why. i am using KVM, squid samba etc for
> > almost more then 1 year and all the servers are providing me what ever
> > i asled all the services are very comprehensive and could be fit in
> > any environment then why compiling?
>
> I compile software m
ers are providing me what ever
> i asled all the services are very comprehensive and could be fit in
> any environment then why compiling?
I compile software myself for at least three reasons.
1. In the past I often was a tester for e.g. Qtractor and I plan to do
it in the future again. It al
piling Squid SAMBA and all
> > the other packages but why. i am using KVM, squid samba etc for
> > almost more then 1 year and all the servers are providing me what ever
> > i asled all the services are very comprehensive and could be fit in
> > any environment then why compil
ces or have nice functionalities not present in older reelases.
>
>> secondly i have read that people are compiling Squid SAMBA and all the
>> other packages but why. i am using KVM, squid samba etc for almost more
>> then 1 year and all the servers are providing me what ever
m using KVM, squid samba etc for almost more
> then 1 year and all the servers are providing me what ever i asled all
> the services are very comprehensive and could be fit in any environment
> then why compiling?
When all works fine there's usually no need to compile things.
People co
ing Squid SAMBA and all
>> the other packages but why. i am using KVM, squid samba etc for
>> almost more then 1 year and all the servers are providing me what ever
>> i asled all the services are very comprehensive and could be fit in
>> any environment then why compiling?
&g
ever
i asled all the services are very comprehensive and could be fit in
any environment then why compiling?
Thanks,
There is little need to compile code. In fact, doing so will probably
have a negative impact on your system's stability, especially if you use
other than the official so
ces are very comprehensive and could be fit in
> any environment then why compiling?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
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comprehensive and could be fit in
any environment then why compiling?
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