Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-18 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 05:10:30 +, T o n g wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:36:57 +, Camaleón wrote: Camaleón, I read all your posts, and agree to them all. But I have to say I don't agree with you on this one. No problem. I value most a good argumentation (being positive or negative)

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-18 Thread deloptes
Hal Vaughan wrote: I retired at 45, thanks to my business, which was based on my own custom software.  The first program I released to run on my clients' computers was in Java, within 6 months after I learned Java and OOP.  In the next 18 months that version was in use, I had fewer than 5 bug

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Bird
On Tue January 18 2011 05:06:52 Camaleón wrote: Finally, he decided to give it another role → gnome-core as metapackage for a GNOME DE that fits into a CD. Good or bad decision? Dunno, it's just a decision and as such can be enhanced, revoked, confirmed... as anything in this life :-) Dear

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-18 Thread Slicky Johnson
I took a moment this morning to compare the differences between the two packages mentioned thus far in this thread, gnome-core and gnome-session. gnome-core contains 524 packages gnome-session contains 368 packages There is a 367MB difference between the installed sizes of gnome-core and

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 06:36:57PM +, Camaleón wrote: Yes, I care about it. I usually run Debian for headless systems that don't use X or a DE, but when I'm using a GUI on Debian, and need to use a Gnome program, there's much more sense to it requiring and installing the bare minimum

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Bannister wrote: Hmmm, I've got postgreSQL running on this machine. I have never installed mysql, and in fact don't want it, and yet: ... libaprutil1 depends on libmysqlclient15off ( 5.0.51a). This has been fixed for Squeeze circa May 2009. See:

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 04:53:34PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: Hmmm, I've got postgreSQL running on this machine. I have never installed mysql, and in fact don't want it, and yet: ... libaprutil1 depends on libmysqlclient15off ( 5.0.51a). This has been fixed for

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-17 Thread T o n g
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 13:08:36 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: I'm running Debian Squeeze, and I have only gnome-core installed so that I would not have Evolution or Epiphany installed since I do not use them. Me too. Basically because gnome-desktop-environment is too big to fit on CD 1. See bug

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-17 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Jan 17, 2011, at 12:16 PM, T o n g wrote: On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 13:08:36 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: I'm running Debian Squeeze, and I have only gnome-core installed so that I would not have Evolution or Epiphany installed since I do not use them. Me too. Basically because

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-17 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:26:17PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: This is an example of why I've been moving away from FOSS. Someone makes a good point in a bug report and the programmer/developer/maintainer throws it back in his face, which allows the bug to be closed out quickly. I think

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-17 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:26:17 -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: (I'm going to play here the role of the devil's advocate... oh, well) This is an example of why I've been moving away from FOSS. Someone makes a good point in a bug report and the programmer/developer/maintainer throws it back in his

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-17 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Jan 17, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Carl Fink wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:26:17PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: This is an example of why I've been moving away from FOSS. Someone makes a good point in a bug report and the programmer/developer/maintainer throws it back in his face, which

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-17 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon January 17 2011 09:26:17 Hal Vaughan wrote: This is an example of why I've been moving away from FOSS. Someone makes a good point in a bug report and the programmer/developer/maintainer throws it back in his face, which allows the bug to be closed out quickly. Ill-considered decisions

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-17 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon January 17 2011 10:36:57 Camaleón wrote: * gnome-core = GNOME installation designed to fit on one CD That is a CHANGE to the definition of gnome-core, which affects many users who have gnome-core installed but not gnome-desktop- -environment. Here is the Lenny definition of the

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-17 Thread Joey Hess
T o n g wrote: That seems to me an absurd reason. Here is the actual reason, from http://bugs.debian.org/608098#31 | in squeeze, the gnome-session package now | depends on the basic components that are actually needed for running a | GNOME session. Since this change was made, I hadn’t known

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-17 Thread T o n g
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:36:57 +, Camaleón wrote: (note that everybody can reopen a bug) Camaleón, I read all your posts, and agree to them all. But I have to say I don't agree with you on this one. For *this specific case*, I *do* consider the DD's reply being pointlessly abrasive,

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-02 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat January 1 2011 03:50:54 Sven Joachim wrote: On 2011-01-01 12:26 +0100, Daniel Andersson wrote: I'm running Debian Squeeze, and I have only gnome-core installed so that I would not have Evolution or Epiphany installed since I do not use them. But it seems that both Evolution and

Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-01 Thread Daniel Andersson
Hi I'm running Debian Squeeze, and I have only gnome-core installed so that I would not have Evolution or Epiphany installed since I do not use them. But it seems that both Evolution and Epiphany has been moved from gnome-desktop-environment to gnome-core. They were not a part of gnome-core

Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?

2011-01-01 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-01-01 12:26 +0100, Daniel Andersson wrote: I'm running Debian Squeeze, and I have only gnome-core installed so that I would not have Evolution or Epiphany installed since I do not use them. But it seems that both Evolution and Epiphany has been moved from gnome-desktop-environment