al...@otterhall.com wrote:
>On 03/03/2016 12:55 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> Basically, there are lots of
>> reported (real and potential) issues with smaller sizes, so we've
>> picked a larger size by default for the guided partitioning.
>
>I wasn't aware of the potential problems. Funny that Ubun
On 03/03/2016 12:55 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Basically, there are lots of
> reported (real and potential) issues with smaller sizes, so we've
> picked a larger size by default for the guided partitioning.
I wasn't aware of the potential problems. Funny that Ubuntu's
documentation still recommen
al...@otterhall.com wrote:
>On 03/02/2016 07:42 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>> There is no ratio. 500 MB is the generally recommended size for the EFI
>> system partition even though the Debian GRUB EFI bootloader needs much
>> less, and 250 MB for /boot is one of the questionable arbitrary choices
2016-03-02 20:16 GMT-03:00 Albin Otterhäll :
> But I don't yet understand why someone would use systemd-boot instead of
> the default boot manager instead of the default one? I'm reading the
> Arch Wiki article[1], but it doesn't discuss _why_ you would like to use
> it.
>
Well, I like to use be
On 03/02/2016 11:57 PM, SamuelOPH wrote:
> They are on a "default" use case, but if you're using systemd-boot you are
> responsible for configuring a nice way to keep only the last kernel images
> on the ESP (it's not hard to do) and automagically update it.
>
> If you're using the Debian's defa
2016-03-02 19:42 GMT-03:00 Albin Otterhäll :
> Doesn't old kernel images get removed after some time?
They are on a "default" use case, but if you're using systemd-boot you are
responsible for configuring a nice way to keep only the last kernel images
on the ESP (it's not hard to do) and autom
On 03/02/2016 11:37 PM, SamuelOPH wrote:
> I believe you mean ESP (EFI System Partition)
Haha, you are correct. :)
> [...] this limit will grow with time with initramfs and vmlinuz
getting bigger [---]
Doesn't old kernel images get removed after some time?
2016-03-02 19:31 GMT-03:00 Albin Otterhäll :
> So a EPA partition with 128MiB is more than enough?
I believe you mean ESP (EFI System Partition), and from my point of view
(I don't known any case where one should need more) 128MiB is enough with a
broad margin. Of course this limit will grow w
On 03/02/2016 11:24 PM, SamuelOPH wrote:
> 20MB for storing both files for one kernel version
So a EPA partition with 128MiB is more than enough?
2016-03-02 19:17 GMT-03:00 Albin Otterhäll :
> What does systemd-boot and initramfs do? And how much space does they take?
First of all, when i said kernel i mean the compressed kernel image
(vmlinuz).
So these two files are used to boot your system, each opearting system
using sysmted-boot sho
On 03/02/2016 11:05 PM, SamuelOPH wrote:
> [---] if you wanna use systemd-boot your kernel and initramfs [---]
What does systemd-boot and initramfs do? And how much space does they take?
Actually, if you wanna use systemd-boot your kernel and initramfs must be
stored on the ESP. But anyway 500MB looks like overkill.
Samuel Henrique O. P. [samueloph]
Técnico em Informática - UTFPR [2012].
Estudante de Engenharia de Computação - UTFPR.
2016-03-02 19:01 GMT-03:00 Albin Otterhäll :
On 03/02/2016 07:42 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> There is no ratio. 500 MB is the generally recommended size for the EFI
> system partition even though the Debian GRUB EFI bootloader needs much
> less, and 250 MB for /boot is one of the questionable arbitrary choices
> that the guided mode does for
> On 02/03/16 08:42 AM, Albin Otterhäll wrote:
>> When doing a guided partition when installing debian, the
>> debian-installer creates a EFI (/boot/efi) partition with approximately
>> 500MB, and a /boot partition with around 250MB. Why this weird ratio
>> between them?
There is no ratio. 500 MB
On 02/03/16 08:42 AM, Albin Otterhäll wrote:
When doing a guided partition when installing debian, the
debian-installer creates a EFI (/boot/efi) partition with approximately
500MB, and a /boot partition with around 250MB. Why this weird ratio
between them?
To my knowledge only the bootloader(s)
When doing a guided partition when installing debian, the
debian-installer creates a EFI (/boot/efi) partition with approximately
500MB, and a /boot partition with around 250MB. Why this weird ratio
between them?
To my knowledge only the bootloader(s) in located on the /boot/efi
partition, and the
* dman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 03:51:16PM +0100, P Kirk wrote:
>
> | I don't have anything other than samba and python installed. How can
> | /usr/share be so big?
>
> Actually you have a lot of stuff installed that you don't need if the
> machine is only going to b
on Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 01:52:54AM +0200, Johnny Morano ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> On Wednesday 22 August 2001 00:18, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> (-) > $ dpkg --get-selections |
> (-) > grep ' install' |
> (-) ^^^
> (-) This should be a tab, not spaces.
> or even
>
On Wednesday 22 August 2001 00:18, Karsten M. Self wrote:
(-) > $ dpkg --get-selections |
(-) > grep ' install' |
(-) ^^^
(-) This should be a tab, not spaces.
or even
grep '.*install$'
to keep it simple ;)
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:---=::=:
on Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 11:16:26PM +0100, P Kirk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Karsten, what can I say...thanks.
Um... "you goofed the script"?
Fixed version is attached, I posted an error to list just a minute ago,
but missed my comment '#' installed during testing. I'm seeing this one
all the w
on Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 02:58:00PM -0700, Karsten M. Self
(kmself@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> on Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 03:51:16PM +0100, P Kirk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > My apologies for sending an attachemnt but it is only 4.1 k. This is my
> > installed list.
> >
> > /dev/hda2 703M
Karsten, what can I say...thanks.
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To: "Debian User List"
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Why so big(2)
on Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 03:51:16PM +0100, P Kirk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> My apologies for sending an attachemnt but it is only 4.1 k. This is my
> installed list.
>
> /dev/hda2 703M 574M 93M 86% /
> du -m /usr/399
> du -m /usr/src/ 173
> du -m /usr/share148
>
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 03:51:16PM +0100, P Kirk wrote:
> /dev/hda2 703M 574M 93M 86% /
> du -m /usr/399
> du -m /usr/src/ 173
> du -m /usr/share148
>
> du -m /home 120
>
> I don't have anything other than samba and python installed. How can
> /usr/share be so
2001 3:51 PM
Subject: Why so big(2)
| My apologies for sending an attachemnt but it is only 4.1 k. This is my
| installed list.
|
| /dev/hda2 703M 574M 93M 86% /
| du -m /usr/399
| du -m /usr/src/ 173
| du -m /usr/share148
|
| du -m /home 120
|
| I don't
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...
> > | nfs-common install
> > | nfs-server install
>
> I assume that portmap is also installed if these are present. Remove
> it, too. Especially on a firewall.
portmap, unfortunately, isn't removable on a potato system. Trying to
remov
dman wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 03:51:16PM +0100, P Kirk wrote:
>
> | I don't have anything other than samba and python installed. How can
> | /usr/share be so big?
>
> This list is things that I don't think you need on this system. If
> you intend to have a nice, useful desktop system the
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 11:12:55AM -0400, dman wrote:
> | exim install
It's good to have an MTA (not necessarily exim, although it's what I
would use) on every box to handle outgoing mail (e.g., snort mailing
you a report that something funny is going on). You should modify
/etc/init.d/exim and /
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 03:51:16PM +0100, P Kirk wrote:
> I don't have anything other than samba and python installed. How can
> /usr/share be so big?
All packages install at least a couple files under /usr/share/doc.
--
With the arrest of Dimitry Sklyarov it has become apparent that it is not
On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 03:51:16PM +0100, P Kirk wrote:
| I don't have anything other than samba and python installed. How can
| /usr/share be so big?
Actually you have a lot of stuff installed that you don't need if the
machine is only going to be a samba server and/or gateway/firewall.
Also r
My apologies for sending an attachemnt but it is only 4.1 k. This is my
installed list.
/dev/hda2 703M 574M 93M 86% /
du -m /usr/399
du -m /usr/src/ 173
du -m /usr/share148
du -m /home 120
I don't have anything other than samba and python installed. How can
On Aug 20 2001, dman wrote:
> I agree with this. I had a gateway system setup on which I manually
> picked the packages and it only used ~120MB. I'm sure several of that
> were used by /var/cache/apt/archives -- whenever you 'apt-get upgrade'
> a copy of the .deb file is cached in that directory.
On Aug 20 2001, Nathan E Norman wrote:
>
> If you want a "small setup" you shouldn't choose any task package at
> all ... do the base install, install what you need (and possibly
> uninstall what you don't; base still has a bit of "cruft"). Voila.
>
Yes, it does. Like PCMCIA packages th
on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 11:48:38PM +0100, P Kirk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> When I installed slink, there used be a small system option that
> required 34 MB. With potato, I choose simple setup, select SAMBA
> server and then install vim from dselect. Its close on 200MB.
You can v
On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 11:48:38PM +0100, P Kirk wrote:
> When I installed slink, there used be a small system option that required 34
> MB. With potato, I choose simple setup, select SAMBA server and then
> install vim from dselect. Its close on 200MB.
>
> Is there a small Debian setup I missed
On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 05:52:55PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote:
| On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 11:48:38PM +0100, P Kirk wrote:
| > Hi all,
| >
| > When I installed slink, there used be a small system option that required 34
| > MB. With potato, I choose simple setup, select SAMBA server and then
| >
On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 11:48:38PM +0100, P Kirk wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> When I installed slink, there used be a small system option that required 34
> MB. With potato, I choose simple setup, select SAMBA server and then
> install vim from dselect. Its close on 200MB.
>
> Is there a small Debian s
Hi all,
When I installed slink, there used be a small system option that required 34
MB. With potato, I choose simple setup, select SAMBA server and then
install vim from dselect. Its close on 200MB.
Is there a small Debian setup I missed?
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