Re: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

2002-09-06 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 06:44:24AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: Hmmm, if my memory serves, it was the Good Old USA that until the late 1800s or so did not recognize patents from Europe or elsewhere. Only later, under pressure from European nations, did the USA change its stance. Now I guess

Re: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

2002-09-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 11:40:18AM +0800, Isaac To wrote: So basically, because of the clarification of Thomson, the authors of mpg321 (or any other GPL mp3 players) or any distributors (Debian included) can no longer grant you a license saying you are free to use, copy, modify and distribute

Re: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

2002-09-01 Thread W. Paul Mills
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joey Hess) writes: [1 text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)] Isaac To wrote: If you look at the license of non-free software in the Debian archive and read the copyright file of each of them, you can find that they allow the binary code to be distributed in a Debian

Re: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

2002-09-01 Thread Balazs Javor
Hi, I've missed a couple of messages in this discussion, so sorry if this was already mentioned before... I'm not sure whether the administrative overhead makes this worth it, but did it occure to someone, that somebody could sell the mp3 plugin for XMMS or other players for a nominal fee of

SOLVED: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

2002-09-01 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 06:24:27PM +0200, Balazs Javor wrote: I'm not sure whether the administrative overhead makes this worth it, but did it occure to someone, that somebody could sell the mp3 plugin for XMMS or other players for a nominal fee

Re: SOLVED: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

2002-09-01 Thread Isaac To
Paul == Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul OK, I *know* it's been mentioned in the thread already, but in Paul case people somehow missed it, the patent holders clarified thier Paul position on August 29th, and I'm really getting tired of this Paul thread. In short,

Re: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

2002-09-01 Thread David Wright
The XMMS people are probably right that they don't need to change anything, because they are not selling XMMS. Red Hat was right to remove MP3 players, because Red Hat is selling its distribution. Technically, Debian doesn't sell its distribution, so in theory Debian shouldn't have to

Re: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

2002-09-01 Thread Isaac To
David == David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David But Debian does encourgage people to sell CD-ROMs of whatever is David not in non-free. If someone were to include an MP3 player on a David Debian CD-ROM and sell it, that person would be violating the MP3 David licensing

Re: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

2002-09-01 Thread John Hasler
Isaac quotes: 7. If, as a consequence of a court judgment or allegation of patent infringement or for any other reason (not limited to patent issues), conditions are imposed on you... ^^ And writes: Well, perhaps Thomson didn't have made the allegation yet, but

Re: XMMS and the new MP3 patent terms

2002-08-31 Thread W. Paul Mills
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Klaus Imgrund) writes: On the xmms website is a statement that nothing has changed. I tend to stick with what xmmms has on their site - after all it's their program.They would probably know that they are about to go to jail;-0 I agree with this. But some seem to think it