Re: advantages and disadvantages of local/lang en_CA.UTF-8?

2007-06-07 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 02:15:30AM +, s. keeling wrote: When slrn has utf-8 support, I'll change. :-( Hm, slrn depends on libslang2 in testing which has utf-8 support. [Sorry if I spelt your name wrong, Stephan. I'm trying your //TRANSLIT trick in mutt. Hopefully, I got enough out of

Re: advantages and disadvantages of local/lang en_CA.UTF-8?

2007-06-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 01:24:32PM +0800, Wei Chen wrote: Things could be easy for English speaking people, since UTF-8 is fully compatible with ASCII. However, for people that do not speak English, for example CJK people, using UTF-8 may mean not compatible with others that use legacy

Re: advantages and disadvantages of local/lang en_CA.UTF-8?

2007-06-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:17:32PM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: On 6/5/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in Canada speaking and writing English with a off-the-shelf North American computer with a standard US keyboard. Up until etch, lang was C and nothing was UTF. What are

Re: advantages and disadvantages of local/lang en_CA.UTF-8?

2007-06-06 Thread Martin Marcher
Hi On 6/6/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you define everything? Do you mean README text file, html, what? If so, do you mean that if I were running with 'C' I couldn't read them? Everything means that (roughly spoken) UTF-8 has place enough store every thinkable

Re: advantages and disadvantages of local/lang en_CA.UTF-8?

2007-06-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
If I write a plain text, in english, on my UTF-8 stock debian system, is it safe to assume that it will be readable by a computer that doesn't do UTF-8 that just has 'C'? Will that multi-lingual README written in UTF-8 at least be readable in english on a system with just 'C'? I don't

Re: advantages and disadvantages of local/lang en_CA.UTF-8?

2007-06-06 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 12:09:20PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: If I write a plain text, in english, on my UTF-8 stock debian system, is it safe to assume that it will be readable by a computer that doesn't do UTF-8 that just has 'C'? Will that multi-lingual README written in US-ASCII is

Re: advantages and disadvantages of local/lang en_CA.UTF-8?

2007-06-06 Thread Wei Chen
On 6/6/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 01:24:32PM +0800, Wei Chen wrote: Things could be easy for English speaking people, since UTF-8 is fully compatible with ASCII. However, for people that do not speak English, for example CJK people, using UTF-8

Re: advantages and disadvantages of local/lang en_CA.UTF-8?

2007-06-06 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 06:33:58PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote: US-ASCII is a subset of UTF-8, so any text written in US-ASCII is readable in LANG=C. But the English language can have characters beside the 7bit ASCII characters as well (e.g. ??). So you can???t say that the English

Re: advantages and disadvantages of local/lang en_CA.UTF-8?

2007-06-06 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 01:15:32PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: If I view this in mutt after a LANG=C, of course I can't see your accented character (its a ??). Interesting that your can't is also can???t. I wonder why your editor chose to use a unicode for '. Because I told him to do.

Re: advantages and disadvantages of local/lang en_CA.UTF-8?

2007-06-06 Thread s. keeling
Wei Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 6/6/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 01:24:32PM +0800, Wei Chen wrote: Things could be easy for English speaking people, since UTF-8 is fully compatible with ASCII. However, for people that do not speak English,

advantages and disadvantages of local/lang en_CA.UTF-8?

2007-06-05 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
I'm in Candada speaking and writing english with a off-the-shelf North American computer with a standard US keyboard. Up until etch, lang was C and nothing was UTF. What are the advantages to me of etch setting a default language en_CA.UTF-8 and other locale settings? What are the

Re: advantages and disadvantages of local/lang en_CA.UTF-8?

2007-06-05 Thread Kelly Clowers
On 6/5/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in Canada speaking and writing English with a off-the-shelf North American computer with a standard US keyboard. Up until etch, lang was C and nothing was UTF. What are the advantages to me of etch setting a default language

Re: advantages and disadvantages of local/lang en_CA.UTF-8?

2007-06-05 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kelly Clowers wrote: On 6/5/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in Canada speaking and writing English with a off-the-shelf North American computer with a standard US keyboard. Up until etch, lang was C and nothing was UTF. What